Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Urs Liska
I'm somewhat split in this question: I very much like stackexchange and use it as a resource for latex, git and python questions regularly. Finding answers to Lilypond questions there would be nice too. But I think the user base of Lilypond is significantly smaller than of the other mentiones

Re: On creating title pages and the like

2013-11-02 Thread flup2
If you're not confortable with the Terminal and use Texworks, you have to tell to Texworks with command to run: lilypond-book in place of pdflatex (or pdfxelatex etc. according to your usual LaTeX choice). In Texworks, go to the Preferences, in the Typesetting tab. In Path for Tex..., add the

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I am also totally up for this idea as well. What's wrong with this list? Everybody wants to take his LilyPond business to the web interface of his choice that takes a lot of additional work over just reading and typing text and further dilutes the LilyPond knowledge. I second that. We

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Peter Bjuhr
I agree with Urs that a Stack Exchange page shouldn't be instead of this list, if that was the suggestion. But as Gilberto pointed out there is already LilyPond questions asked on different Stack Exchange forums (I answered one myself earlier this week). And it seems to be some confusion

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread ryanmichaelmcclure
Allow me to clarify that in no way did I intend for the Stack Exchange page to replace this list. It would have been purely an addition of resources. For me, the purpose of the Stack Exchange page is about accessibility to those who are 1) not familiar with LilyPond or 2) not familiar with

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com writes: I agree with Urs that a Stack Exchange page shouldn't be instead of this list, if that was the suggestion. But as Gilberto pointed out there is already LilyPond questions asked on different Stack Exchange forums (I answered one myself earlier this

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Allow me to clarify that in no way did I intend for the Stack Exchange page to replace this list. It would have been purely an addition of resources. Well, you might answer all lilypond questions by simply pointing questioners to the list :) For me, the purpose of the Stack Exchange page

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
ryanmichaelmcclure ryanmichaelmccl...@gmail.com writes: Allow me to clarify that in no way did I intend for the Stack Exchange page to replace this list. It would have been purely an addition of resources. For me, the purpose of the Stack Exchange page is about accessibility to those who

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 11/02/2013 08:28 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Well, they are on-topic in this mailing list. If it's community policy or at least a general agreement that we should always refer to this list, I will of course do so the next time! But I hope we agree that it, as Ryan wrote, would be helpful

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
If it's community policy or at least a general agreement that we should always refer to this list, I will of course do so the next time! Yes, please do so. But I hope we agree that it, as Ryan wrote, would be helpful for the community if we found ways to deal with questions posted outside

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 11/02/2013 10:28 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: If it's community policy or at least a general agreement that we should always refer to this list, I will of course do so the next time! Yes, please do so. No problem! Then I suppose I should also post that answer to the meta question I linked

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: If it's community policy or at least a general agreement that we should always refer to this list, I will of course do so the next time! Yes, please do so. But I hope we agree that it, as Ryan wrote, would be helpful for the community if we found ways

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Then I suppose I should also post that answer to the meta question I linked to previously!? I think this would be good, yes. So, is this the link to give? https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user It depends. For casual users, the gmane interface is perhaps better suited, thus

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 11/02/2013 11:16 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: It depends. For casual users, the gmane interface is perhaps better suited, thus the link should rather be http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general Maybe it is even better to send them directly to the posting!?

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com writes: On 11/02/2013 11:16 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: It depends. For casual users, the gmane interface is perhaps better suited, thus the link should rather be http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general Maybe it is even better to send them

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Maybe it is even better to send them directly to the posting!? http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general Probably. I don't use gmane at all, so I can't give a recommendation. However, as with StackExchange, people should *search* first before post something whether

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, my 3 eurocents: 1) StackExchange is great. It's QA style of sharing knowledge is very efficient and pleasure to work with. 2) LilyPond is too small to have its own StackExcange site. If you look at http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/10733/leaving-beta-requirements you'll

Re: And now for something completely different.

2013-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: David Kastrup writes: No, the PostScript is still fine. But when you ask Ghostscript to convert it to anything else, it has its own idea what to convert. Nice. How did you come by this one? Accidentally. The weird thing is that I then tried

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: when all you have is a hammer, every problem starts looking like a nail. Mailing lists are an all-purpose communication tool. Many things can be done using a mailing list, but some things may be done more efficiently using other tools - for

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Hmm, after reading all arguments against a Stack Exchange page, I have to say I completely changed my opinion on this regards as well. Indeed it would not be good for us to spread a small community in two places, and re-posting questions on both would be a waste of time indeed. My first reaction

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Hilary Snaden
On 2013-11-02 05:52, David Kastrup wrote: Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: I am also totally up for this idea as well. What's wrong with this list? Everybody wants to take his LilyPond business to the web interface of his choice that takes a lot of additional work

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Urs Liska
I think there is one thing the mailing list can't really offer compared to a QA site: accepted answers. This is really a good thing. But definitely no reason to spread our forceds and competence. Ther already _are_ places to present solutions, although not as answersx to posted questions: the

Re: And now for something completely different.

2013-11-02 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/11/2 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: David Kastrup writes: No, the PostScript is still fine. But when you ask Ghostscript to convert it to anything else, it has its own idea what to convert. Nice. How did you come by this one? Accidentally.

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
Hilary Snaden h...@newearth.demon.co.uk writes: On 2013-11-02 05:52, David Kastrup wrote: Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: I am also totally up for this idea as well. What's wrong with this list? Everybody wants to take his LilyPond business to the web interface of

Re: And now for something completely different.

2013-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: Or zeroline.ly , not true ordinary word but a likely filename. Some filenames make gs crash; expect bug reports on this sooner or later. A pity tiger.ly does not work I was actually looking for the tiger, but it seems that it is no longer being

Re: On creating title pages and the like

2013-11-02 Thread Helge Kruse
Am 01.11.2013 19:13, schrieb David Kastrup: I seem to remember that Windows does something weird with = on the command line. I know for sure that the equal sign is nothing special for Windows. The command line is passed to the process as we give it at the command line. The Scheme

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Paul Morris
janek.lilypond wrote QA sites like StackExchange are better for sharing QA knowledge than mailing lists because they allow to edit information, update it, remove duplicates, and make order. I think this is a good point. The mailing list is sufficient and fine, but it's probably not optimal

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com writes: janek.lilypond wrote QA sites like StackExchange are better for sharing QA knowledge than mailing lists because they allow to edit information, update it, remove duplicates, and make order. I think this is a good point. The mailing list is

Re: Thoughts about creating Stack Exchange page?

2013-11-02 Thread Paul Morris
David Kastrup wrote Uh, we do have a manual that can be edited, improved, and evolve over time with different versions of LilyPond... Right, but formal documentation is not the same as more informal QA/support, and they have different levels of editing accessibility/difficulty and quality

Bar numbers position

2013-11-02 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Hello all, Today, while searching for scores at Mutopia, I came across this one produced in LilyPond 2.9.9: http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/BachJS/BWV849/bwv849b/bwv849b-a4.pdf http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/BachJS/BWV849/bwv849b/bwv849b.ly What intrigued me here is the position of the bar

Barlines obscuring text in score

2013-11-02 Thread ryanmichaelmcclure
I'm finishing up a score and I am encountering this problem in many places: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n153278/Urban.Allegory.png What would be my best option for making this look better? Could I make the barline at that section be transparent so that only the text is visible?

Re: Barlines obscuring text in score

2013-11-02 Thread Urs Liska
Am 02.11.2013 23:39, schrieb ryanmichaelmcclure: I'm finishing up a score and I am encountering this problem in many places: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n153278/Urban.Allegory.png What would be my best option for making this look better? Could I make the barline at that section

Re: Barlines obscuring text in score

2013-11-02 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Try this code: whiteout.ly http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n153280/whiteout.ly which produces: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n153280/whiteout.png Another possibility, which I think would look better, would be to have the sub. F text anchored to the right of the

Re: Barlines obscuring text in score

2013-11-02 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
You can also try this: left-align.ly http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n153281/left-align.ly Which produces: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n153281/left-align.png This looks much better IMO. Best, Gilberto -- View this message in context:

Re: Barlines obscuring text in score

2013-11-02 Thread ryanmichaelmcclure
Gilberto, your last option looks great! I do have a quick question--for subito dynamics, what should be aligned to the first note of said dynamic: the actual dynamic or subito? - Ryan McClure Luna Music Engraving -- View this message in context:

Re: Barlines obscuring text in score

2013-11-02 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
As far as I know, the dynamic text should always start at the note which it affects. This is the simplest and most elegant solution, and then there is never ambiguity as to when a dynamic change has to be performed. -- View this message in context:

Re: Barlines obscuring text in score

2013-11-02 Thread SoundsFromSound
In my scores, I prefer to put the *subito */after /the dynamic, for example: f subito, or p subito. I see that all the time on scores, I figured it was the norm nowadays or something. I don't often see the subito first in modern scores, but ymmv. Just my take on things :) - composer |

Re: Barlines obscuring text in score

2013-11-02 Thread SoundsFromSound
Another plus to this approach is that the dynamic text is always directly lined up at the note which it affects, so win win! - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context:

Re: Barlines obscuring text in score

2013-11-02 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
You are totally right on this one, using subito as a suffix instead of a prefix is indeed very common. Also, according to the Wikipedia: Sudden changes in dynamics may be notated by adding the word subito (Italian for suddenly) as a prefix or suffix to the new dynamic notation. from:

Re: Barlines obscuring text in score

2013-11-02 Thread Jay Anderson
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 5:32 PM, ryanmichaelmcclure ryanmichaelmccl...@gmail.com wrote: Gilberto, your last option looks great! I do have a quick question--for subito dynamics, what should be aligned to the first note of said dynamic: the actual dynamic or subito? According to Gould the dynamic

Re: Stuck note after acciaccatura in Midi output

2013-11-02 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On 10/8/2013 12:07 AM, Keith OHara wrote: Peter Gentry peter.gentry at sunscales.co.uk writes: The problem vanishes if the \tempo specification changed to 179 or slower. I can imagine a problem if you are sending the MIDI down an actual MIDI cable. Grace notes are played at 1/4 noted