Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

2013-12-16 Thread Keith OHara
Eluze eluzew at gmail.com writes: karol wrote This doesn't solve the problem. Look at the example. In the first system spacing is proper, but in the second, distance between 'b' and 'd' is 9 (should be 10.5). I think this is a paradoxical situation: if a staff (group) is removed then

Re: What is it called and can I do it?

2013-12-16 Thread Federico Bruni
You should have searched cautionary accidental or reminder accidental or accidental, cautionary in the index of Notation Reference: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/lilypond-index.html Il 16/dic/2013 01:51 Guy Stalnaker jimmyg...@gmail.com ha scritto: I have a composition

RE: mid-measure key change

2013-12-16 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Mr. O'Hara, Thank you for your replay and instructions - similar to that of Mr. Loomis. I shall try them in context today. Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Keith

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 02:24, schrieb Kieren MacMillan: I’d like to have the score title (i.e., the whole two-line column) automatically centered (i.e., it should be lined up exactly with the book title, in this case), and the boxed song number (which may have two or three digits in other songs!)

Re: mid-measure key change

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com writes: Mr. O'Hara, Thank you for your replay and instructions - similar to that of Mr. Loomis. I shall try them in context today. Possibly \bar \nobreak would do what you want here. While it will disrupt the spacing, the bar numbers will stay

Re: Increasing space for lyrics for one part of a verse

2013-12-16 Thread Eluze
Tom Dickson wrote I have a verse that has a very long slur, and the lyrics run into the slur. Technically, it's the dashes that are printed between the syllables. I'm able to change the font for that part of the verse to italics, but I can't seem to figure out what to use to increase the

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net writes: Eluze eluzew at gmail.com writes: karol wrote This doesn't solve the problem. Look at the example. In the first system spacing is proper, but in the second, distance between 'b' and 'd' is 9 (should be 10.5). I think this is a paradoxical

Re: place variable definition

2013-12-16 Thread Eluze
Tom van der Hoeven wrote The partn.lyp files contain definitions like partname = Part N music = \relative c'' { a b c d } within the book I use \partname and \music. The question is: Has a variable definition to be outside any environment, [...] for instance the \book environment.

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Thanks for the help… until someone comes up with a truly “automated” method, I’m simply going to hand-code the extra spacing “strut, e.g. \version 2.17.29 \paper { bookTitleMarkup = \markup \fill-line { \abs-fontsize #18 \fromproperty #'header:title } scoreTitleMarkup = \markup

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Kieren, this is how I might do it: use combine to place the number above the title line, so it doesn't disturb its centering. %%% \version 2.17.29 \paper { bookTitleMarkup = \markup \fill-line { \abs-fontsize #18 \fromproperty #'header:title } scoreTitleMarkup = \markup \center-column {

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 12/16/2013 11:25 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi all, Thanks for the help… until someone comes up with a truly “automated” method, [...] Hi Kieren, how about the following? Uses - \with-dimensions to fake zero extent for the markup that should not be considered for spacing, - \halign

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi all, Thanks for the help… until someone comes up with a truly “automated” method, I’m simply going to hand-code the extra spacing “strut, e.g. It does not get a price for being pretty and requires the markup changes committed late in

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David and Alexander, These are extremely clever (and nearly identical) solutions — thanks! Now I just need to figure out why it messes up when moving it from this minimal snippet to my full titling system. (It’s almost certainly an unintended effect of \with-dimensions…) But this definitely

Re: minor chord names lowercase - es problem

2013-12-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/12/16 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net: Am 2013-12-15 um 18:26 schrieb Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com: Additional bass is downcase. germanChordNames.ly And how can I change that? Mostly I’d like my additional bass uppercase, only in some cases (sic) lowercase. I'll try

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Never mind: I simply forgot to reintroduce (in my real titling block) a \column to “counteract” the initial \fill-line (from the snippet). All is now perfect — thanks again! Kieren. On Dec 16, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi David and Alexander,

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 12/16/2013 12:14 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi David and Alexander, These are extremely clever (and nearly identical) solutions — thanks! Welcome. Now I just need to figure out why it messes up when moving it from this minimal snippet to my full titling system. (It’s almost certainly an

Re: minor chord names lowercase - es problem

2013-12-16 Thread Francois Planiol
This is great also for me thanks! Francois 2013/12/16, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com: 2013/12/16 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net: Am 2013-12-15 um 18:26 schrieb Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com: Additional bass is downcase. germanChordNames.ly And how can I change

Re: mid-measure key change

2013-12-16 Thread Alex Loomis
I thought that the time change might force it to align correctly, but when you have it in 2/2 and use \bar the exact same problem appears. Doing what Keith suggested (and what I originally tried, but I couldn't remember how to make the SpanBar transparent) should work the best. On Mon, Dec 16,

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 12/16/2013 02:54 PM, Alex Loomis wrote: This is really minor, but I was noticing that the positioning of the spaces in Fairy Tale Ending gives it the illusion of being a little too far to the left. Is there a way to center lines on a word instead of centering the entire phrase? Hi Alex,

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Alex(i), I cannot see an automated version around the corner which figures out the proper word to put in the center. Might be doable by looping over all words, computing their extents, and taking the most centered one” No… but it would be a reasonably good manual/automatic hybrid if you

Re: centering title and THEN adding something to the left of it

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Alex, This is really minor It *is* really minor… but I like your eye for detail! =) Thanks, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: What is it called and can I do it?

2013-12-16 Thread Guy Stalnaker
Alex, Visually it is perfect! Thank you for the time you took to do this. It's still a grace note in midi, but I can live with that. As a grace note it does not affect lyrics, which is a plus. It's still in the midi output, but if I'm doing something with the midi, I can always comment out

Re: TextLine context

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello again, Here’s what I’ve cobbled together, with no real understanding of what these things actually do… ;) \layout { \context { \type Engraver_group \name TextLine \consists Collision_engraver \consists Axis_group_engraver \consists Separating_line_group_engraver

Key Change

2013-12-16 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Gentlemen, In context, Schubert Impromptu D. 899, the command lines \once\override Score.BarLine #'transparent = ##t \once\override Score.SpanBar #'transparent = ##t \bar| Inserted the key change correctly. Lilypond maintained spacing and broke the line after the key change.

Re: TextLine context

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hello again, Here’s what I’ve cobbled together, with no real understanding of what these things actually do… ;) \layout { \context { \type Engraver_group \name TextLine \consists Collision_engraver \consists

Re: TextLine context

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, It's folded into Axis_group_engraver, so you just need to set remove-empty and remove-first to ##t. Thanks. Except now no text appears at all…? Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: TextLine context

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi David, It's folded into Axis_group_engraver, so you just need to set remove-empty and remove-first to ##t. Thanks. Except now no text appears at all…? I see keepAliveInterfaces = #'( bass-figure-interface

Re: TextLine context

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, You probably need to set the keepAliveInterfaces of your text engraver to a list including an interface that is actually getting used by your texts. D’oh. Thanks. Oh, and for once, I actually *truly appreciated* the “teach a man to fish” approach of your response. ;) All the best,

Short alternate ending breaks staff length

2013-12-16 Thread Sam Whited
Hi all, I'm having an issue where a short alternate ending on a piece results in the last staff being a bit short. I have not encountered this with other music, and when trying to put together a shorter minimal working example couldn't reproduce the problem. The song in question, however, is

Re: Short alternate ending breaks staff length

2013-12-16 Thread James Worlton
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Sam Whited s...@samwhited.com wrote: Hi all, I'm having an issue where a short alternate ending on a piece results in the last staff being a bit short. I have not encountered this with other music, and when trying to put together a shorter minimal working

Re: Short alternate ending breaks staff length

2013-12-16 Thread Sam Whited
On 12/16/2013 12:38 PM, James Worlton wrote: Your last chord in the \harmonies variable is still set at duration '2'. Wow, that's almost embarrasing. Thanks for that; just one of those things I should have noticed, but didn't. Best, Sam -- Sam Whited pub 4096R/EC2C9934

Re: TextLine context

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi David, You probably need to set the keepAliveInterfaces of your text engraver to a list including an interface that is actually getting used by your texts. D’oh. Thanks. Oh, and for once, I actually *truly appreciated* the “teach a

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

2013-12-16 Thread Keith OHara
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 01:07:35 -0800, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net writes: The StaffGrouper, that makes different spacing at the end of a group, is created by the Vertical_align_engraver (despite what the manual says) so if you remove the

Re: Short alternate ending breaks staff length

2013-12-16 Thread James Worlton
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Sam Whited s...@samwhited.com wrote: On 12/16/2013 12:38 PM, James Worlton wrote: Your last chord in the \harmonies variable is still set at duration '2'. Wow, that's almost embarrasing. Thanks for that; just one of those things I should have noticed, but

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net writes: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 01:07:35 -0800, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net writes: The StaffGrouper, that makes different spacing at the end of a group, is created by the Vertical_align_engraver (despite what the manual

Re: Custom key signature stencils, differentiating major and minor keys

2013-12-16 Thread Paul Morris
Hanno wrote I'm looking for a way to include the key in my title, because currently I write this manually into the subtitle-field and keep forgetting to change this after transposing. Hi Hanno, Unfortunately I don't know of a way to do this. It seems that the title is processed before any

Lyric extender

2013-12-16 Thread Shane Brandes
Hi all, I am trying to typeset a song and there are two levels of lyrics where one runs faster and the other slower such that in a single measure you have a word on a whole not in one voice and in an other voice you have several words on several notes. The thing i am trying to accomplish is to

Re: Lyric extender

2013-12-16 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net To: LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:59 PM Subject: Lyric extender Hi all, I am trying to typeset a song and there are two levels of lyrics where one runs faster and the other

Re: Lyric extender

2013-12-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Shane Brandes wote Monday, December 16, 2013 5:59 PM I am trying to typeset a song and there are two levels of lyrics where one runs faster and the other slower such that in a single measure you have a word on a whole not in one voice and in an other voice you have several words on several

Re: Lyric extender

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Trevor (et al.), You don't say what release you are using, but if it's a fairly recent release 17 this may help you: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/techniques-specific-to-lyrics#polyphony-with-shared-lyrics This is nice! But ultimately it shows that we still need

Re: Lyric extender

2013-12-16 Thread Shane Brandes
Lilypond version 2.17.95 sorry about version the omission. I solved the problem with this unpleasant kludge: \once\override TextScript.extra-offset = #'(4.2 . -2.5) g bes es1 but if anyone comes up with something more effective I will implement it. The melismaBusy set unset

Re: Lyric extender

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Shane, I solved the problem with this unpleasant kludge: \once\override TextScript.extra-offset = #'(4.2 . -2.5) g bes es1 but if anyone comes up with something more effective I will implement it. At the very least, adjust the extender itself, rather than adding a

Re: notation for double-time?

2013-12-16 Thread Steve Downes
Surely if it's his solo it is up to him/her how he wishes to interpret it. His interpretation can change ( should change) if his mood changes. Steve On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:41:36PM +0100, Xavier Noria wrote: Not specific to Lilypond but hope you don't mind the question, I have looked for

Re: Lyric extender

2013-12-16 Thread Shane Brandes
I used Kieren's approach which has the virtue of making the adjustment obvious to the object being adjusted, but it is still computationally expensive in so far as i still had to guess at the value of the extension and has to run several guesses. If this had been more than a 2 page Christmas ditty

Re: Lyric extender

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Shane, it is still computationally expensive …which is exactly why I’ve [again] posted a feature request for a computationally free” function: p.s. This situation is exactly the type of thing which has prompted me to ask (many times in the past) for the ability to set width

can anyone work on Lyric bounties (GSoC, etc.)?

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, A large proportion of my compositions and arrangements include voice. There are certain (one might almost say “many”) things about Lily’s vocal engraving engine that need fixing. Hence I was very excited when Janek took that part of Lily on during his Google Summer of Code stint.

Re: \partcombine reminders after page-break

2013-12-16 Thread Simon Bailey
hi kieren, On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello all, When a Staff is populated by \partcombine, it is often difficult to tell/remember who is playing right after a page-break. (n.b., Unlike percussion or vocal staves, it isn’t

\partcombine reminders after page-break

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, When a Staff is populated by \partcombine, it is often difficult to tell/remember who is playing right after a page-break. (n.b., Unlike percussion or vocal staves, it isn’t normal practice to change the shortInstrumentName of a \partcombine-d Staff.) I’ve seen several scores

Re: \partcombine reminders after page-break

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Simon, i posted almost the same question in october: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-10/msg00482.html (and http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-10/msg00324.html ) Ha! and got no answer. maybe this time… Fingers crossed… Kieren.

calling all opera/musical engravers

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all! I would love to hear from anyone who has engraved a full opera or musical (with at least vocal score plus full score) in Lilypond. Specifically: 1. Is lilypond-book the only sane way to do it? 2. What functions/extensions/tricks did you use to bend Lily to your will? 3. What pitfalls

Re: calling all opera/musical engravers

2013-12-16 Thread karl
Kieren: I would love to hear from anyone who has engraved a full opera or musical (with at least vocal score plus full score) in Lilypond. If you count H.Purcells Dido et Æneas for a full opera, take a look at: http://turkos.aspodata.se/noter/dido_et_aeneas/ Specifically: 1. Is

Re: calling all opera/musical engravers

2013-12-16 Thread Derek
I haven't done one but I am keen to learn. If those who know don't mind me asking what their strategies/workflows are like for such huge works? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/calling-all-opera-musical-engravers-tp156024p156026.html Sent from the

barline troubles

2013-12-16 Thread Werner
I just installed version 2.17.97 (before I used 2.14 or 2.16). Now I get for the following code no barline at the place, where I want to get the :| repetition-barline. c2 r | \bar || \mark \markup { \musicglyph #scripts.coda } r1 \bar :| \break % Coda \mark \markup { \musicglyph

Re: barline troubles

2013-12-16 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/12/16 Werner mey@web.de I just installed version 2.17.97 (before I used 2.14 or 2.16). Now I get for the following code no barline at the place, where I want to get the :| repetition-barline. this has changed to \bar :|. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/changes/index.html

Re: barline troubles

2013-12-16 Thread Werner
Hello Federico, this has changed to \bar :|. thank you very much! Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: barline troubles

2013-12-16 Thread Alex Loomis
I don't see the change in the list. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Werner mey@web.de wrote: Hello Federico, this has changed to \bar :|. thank you very much! Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

.NET lilypond parser library

2013-12-16 Thread Michael
Hello LilyPond community! I want to use LilyPond file format for storing music sheets, could you tell me if there are any lilypond file format parsers available? Preference is .net based, but any other parsers would be useful too. With Regards, Michael

Re: barline troubles

2013-12-16 Thread Federico Bruni
on the bottom of the page: The bar line user interface has changed. Bar glyphs now resemble the appearance of the bar line, so a left repeat sign has to be coded as .|:. The command \defineBarLine provides an easy way to define additional bar line styles. You may have used Ctrl + F instead of

terminal susteno

2013-12-16 Thread Shane Brandes
Hi all, ( I sent this out a few days ago but never saw it come through) Could someone rewrite the text for LilyPond 2.17.97 Notation Reference: 2.2.2 Piano to reflect that leaving the final \sustenutoOff in the text variant of the sustain pedal function does not do the same fancy auto ending

Re: minor chord names lowercase - es problem

2013-12-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/12/16 Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com: 2013/12/16 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net: Am 2013-12-15 um 18:26 schrieb Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com: Additional bass is downcase. germanChordNames.ly And how can I change that? Mostly I’d like my additional bass

Re: calling all opera/musical engravers

2013-12-16 Thread Luca Rossetto Casel
Dear Kieren and all, Il 16/12/2013 22:59, Kieren MacMillan ha scritto: I would love to hear from anyone who has engraved a full opera or musical (with at least vocal score plus full score) in Lilypond. I engraved the critical edition of Traetta's /Enea nel Lazio/ in full score. It's a 18th

re: opera/musical engravers

2013-12-16 Thread info
Kieran- I am finished with my latest opera The Map we're starting a kickstarter proposal in January or Feb. The director and conductor are on board, auditions probably in Sept '14. 8 singers, 8 instrumentalists, minimal spoken dialogue fully scored out. I did not use lily -book it was/is

Re: minor chord names lowercase - es problem

2013-12-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-12-17 um 06:36 schrieb Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com: 2013/12/16 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net: Am 2013-12-15 um 18:26 schrieb Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com: Additional bass is downcase. germanChordNames.ly And how can I change that? Mostly I’d like my

Re: calling all opera/musical engravers

2013-12-16 Thread Mike Solomon
On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello all! I would love to hear from anyone who has engraved a full opera or musical (with at least vocal score plus full score) in Lilypond. Specifically: 1. Is lilypond-book the only sane way to do

Re: Increasing space for lyrics for one part of a verse

2013-12-16 Thread bombcar
Hello, This is the shortest example I can make (I've removed the part of the verse that doesn't collide with notes and left only the part that shows the issue): altoMusic = \relative c' { r4 f2( bes4 | bes8[ a8 g8 f8] g8[ f8] ees4) | r4 f8([ ees8] d4 g4 | g8[ f8 ees8 d8] ees8[ d8] c4) |

Re: Increasing space for lyrics for one part of a verse

2013-12-16 Thread Mike Solomon
On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:42 AM, bombcar lilyp...@bombcar.com wrote: Hello, This is the shortest example I can make (I've removed the part of the verse that doesn't collide with notes and left only the part that shows the issue): altoMusic = \relative c' { r4 f2( bes4 | bes8[ a8 g8 f8]

Re: Increasing space for lyrics for one part of a verse

2013-12-16 Thread bombcar
Yes. It's hard to see in that short example; I've uploaded the entire file and PDF here: http://schnecke.bombcar.com/random/dingdongmerrilyonhigh.ly http://schnecke.bombcar.com/random/dingdongmerrilyonhigh.pdf As you can see the verses are fine; the refrain has a slur run into the dashes. -tom

Re: Increasing space for lyrics for one part of a verse

2013-12-16 Thread Mike Solomon
On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:52 AM, bombcar lilyp...@bombcar.com wrote: Yes. It's hard to see in that short example; I've uploaded the entire file and PDF here: http://schnecke.bombcar.com/random/dingdongmerrilyonhigh.ly http://schnecke.bombcar.com/random/dingdongmerrilyonhigh.pdf As you can

Re: Increasing space for lyrics for one part of a verse

2013-12-16 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 12/17/2013 07:52 AM, bombcar wrote: Yes. It's hard to see in that short example [...] Hi Tom, well, it was non-existent there, at least with the versions I could check quickly (2.14.2 and 2.17.96). Some thoughts: For 2.16, it's probably okay to use \override LyricHyphen #'Y-extent =