Dear all,
The attached score show a context collision.
In an orchestra score, I like to have the bar numbers at the top left
and bottom left of each system. Also, I like to gather all textual
informations at the top. For this, I defined 2 new contexts :TextLine
and BarNumberLine.
Problem: text
Thank you for your answer, very useful. I found the issue: in my .vimrc I have:
set foldenable
set foldmethod=syntax
Try that and you will see how long it takes.
I have no issue with C++ code, why would it be so much longer with
lilypond language?
Frédéric
Some months ago, vim became very very slow to open a lilypond file
(4-5 seconds). This is clearly due to syntax highlighting because when
turn it off (:syntax off) the files are opened instantaneously. Also
when I add an opening {, it takes a long time (1 second or more) to
update the file which
I'd like to have some feedback from you. Which change in the Mutopia
interface/decisions would make you start contributing or contributing more?
I wanted to contribute with the 4th symphony of Schumann which was
ready to be submitted. I had spent some time to adjust the page layout
for A4 paper
ornamentations are printed above slurs like in the following example:
\relative c'' { c4( c4\prall c4 c4) }
How can I have the \prall below the slur?
Regards,
Frédéric
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I am using Vim and Fedora 19 and syntax highlighting is working. The change
from vim73 to vim74 is something that should be reported to the lilypond
packagers from Fedora.
I have done this already
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005394). It has been
fixed in F18 and F20 but they
Yeah, that ghostview command is from the vim config provided by the LIlypond
team. I made sure to install gv, still nothing.
but by default, the .ps file is removed, isn't it?
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I want to beam a chord in the treble staff to a chord in the bass staff and
have the beam slanted between the two staves.
For what should I search?
maybe:
https://github.com/stevage/Lilypond/blob/master/input/regression/beam-cross-staff.ly
Frédéric
I have looked at the examples. Have you also a set of good examples?
Of course, we do not want them to become bad... But maybe the
regression tests just play that role?
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I have looked at the examples. Have you also a set of good examples?
Of course, we do not want them to become bad...
Do you mean ties that are currently engraved correctly by default, or
example good-looking ties scanned from hand-engraved music?
I mean engraved correctly by default.
But
Disagree. The default conversation language of LilyPond (all its
command and function names) is English, the default note language is
dutch. side-ees is perfectly consistent with LilyPond's defaults.
By the way I discover in 2.16 doc that the default language has moved
to English now?
I
That looks a good job you're doing here.
I want to rename the right-hand key labeled four to
side-ees to make to naming more consistent
Could we have English names by default so that everybody can
understand? I learnt the French names when I was young but switched to
English names for lilypond
You can have a look at this score:
https://sites.google.com/a/polytechnique.org/bron/home/music/schumann---4th-symphony
I see you're running into at least one of the same problems I am: the
MetronomeMark is no longer aligning correctly. =(
I have not noticed that. Could you give a precise
Well, for example the very first tempo indication should be left-aligned with
the time signature.
Lilypond does this [correctly] when the mark is in the Staff context
containing the time signature, but doesn't when the mark is placed in a
separate context.
OK, I have never considered that
Did you do any performance testing, to see if compilation times are optimized
this way? (I'm finding performance to be somewhat critical, especially when
generating my large opera and musical scores.)
I did not checked another method to see if it was quicker to build.
You can see that the
B.
B1. Put the RehearsalMark and MetronomeMark objects in the main global
variable (which also includes \time, \bar, etc.).
B2. Create a MarksOnly custom context, which only has the engravers
necessary to show RehearsalMark and MetronomeMarks, and let it filter out
everything else
I propose to continue this discussion on lilypond-user list.
Could it be that mistakes from earlier in a file would
trigger barcheck mistakes later?
I think so. When I have an missing note in a bar, it pollutes the
score up to the end. Could attach your long example or is it too long?
I assume this is the thread you're referring to?
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/23-16-rest-td136941.html
That's right, Frédéric
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I am trying to find a free solfware of music notation of Church Music as a
substitution for Finale with which I cannot write a particular latin script
extended unicode.
Why writing to bug-lilypond list? I reply to lilypond-user list.
The documentation is pretty good. You can start here:
yes it is - see http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=638
Thanks a lot. In fact, the trick is to use 2 times \language:
\language italiano
music = { music written in italiano }
\language english
\displayLilyMusic \music
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Is it possible that \displayLilyMusic outputs note names in a
different language?
I use to work with english notations because they are shorter but I am
using an existing file written with italiano.
Is it possible to change the note names from do re mi fa sol... to c d e f g?
I know I can try with
Does anybody here know of software that could convert a .pdf into .ly?
Mayber .pdf to .xml first, then to .ly?
Or .pdf into .svg, or some sort of image file? I got some music from the
IMSLP site, it needs to be rotated and cleaned up a bit.
free command line software:
- pdftk:
I noticed that convert-ly does not converts auto beaming settings.
Didn't convert-ly give you a message that said you needed to change it
manually?
I have run conver-ly for many files so that I did not see the message!
It would have been nice to have a rule that added a comment in the
file
LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
upcoming 2.14 stable release.
I noticed that convert-ly does not converts auto beaming settings.
Kind regards,
Frédéric
Parsing...
indications.ly:6:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
upcoming 2.14 stable release. All users are invited to experiment with
this version. New features since 2.12.3 are listed in the “Changes”
manual on the website section about Development.
http://lilypond.org/development.html
LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
upcoming 2.14 stable release. All users are invited to experiment with
this version. New features since 2.12.3 are listed in the “Changes”
manual on the website section about Development.
http://lilypond.org/development.html
LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
upcoming 2.14 stable release. All users are invited to experiment with
this version. New features since 2.12.3 are listed in the “Changes”
manual on the website section about Development.
http://lilypond.org/development.html
I would like to have a piano staff with one voice on the upper staff,
one voice on the lower staff and one voice automatically switching
between the two staffs.
Is it possible?
I tried this but without success:
\version 2.12.3
\include english.ly
\score {
\new PianoStaff
Please send feedback to lilypond-user
1. Thanks. Personnaly I mostly use big HTML because I need the
search possibilities in the full manual.
I think that more about Notation or other formats for Notation
would better describe the link that is currently called details of
Notation (same for
I am happy to publish the arrangment I made of the 4th symphony of
Schumann for clarinet choir.
Thanks to lilypond and this mailing list I was able to make a very
professional looking score (took me 18 months!!!).
I decided to publish the score with a creative commons licence
following the advice
The git repository at savannah has been updated, everyone
should do a fresh clone.
I can only use the http server because I cannot get outside my
firewall using the git protocol.
I was using http://git.sv.gnu.org/r/lilypond.git before. I have tried
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/r/lilypond.git and
According to
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git
it is.
I am a bit lost: should it be git.sv or git.savannah? Maybe this does
not matter.
Frédéric
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Hi folks,
I created a 21 page score with only one staff but at some place, an
ossia staff appears above the main staff. Everything was fine up to
the point where I needed to move the bar number engraver from the
score context to the staff context because I wanted the bar numbers to
be below text
In the following example I cannot get the bar number below the text
spanner. I tried to change the outside-staff-priority but this does
not work.
Regards,
Frédéric
\version 2.12.2
\relative c' {
\override TextSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = #350
\override BarNumber
Read the Learning Manual (section 4.4.3 explains how to do this)
Thanks a lot. I should have thought about that. Here is the corrected
code for the archive:
\version 2.12.2
\layout {
\context { \Score \remove Bar_number_engraver }
\context { \Staff
\consists
I the following snippet, I would like the second c to be shifted to
the right so that there is enough space for the text crescendo.
minimum-length works fine with hairpin crescendo but not with dynamic
text spanner.
What can I do?
Frédéric
\version 2.12.2
\relative c' {
\once \set
Read this:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Spanners#Spanners
Thank you! I found that adding the following line works:
\once \override DynamicTextSpanner #'springs-and-rods =
#ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
I had guessed that I needed to use that property but from the
I am currenlty finishing the transcription of the 4th symphony of
Schumann for clarinet band (open licence by the way, soon on the
internet).
The score becomes larger and I am nearly at the end (must finish by
Sunday). However, I cannot build anymore the full conductor score
because now, for some
No crash for me with 2.12.3 on OS X. Maybe you are running out of
memory. Also one hour processing time seems like an awful lot, it took
about 8 minutes here. Swapping to disk perhaps?
Thank you very much for having tried that on your machine. I am very
jalous of your success and the speed of
Thanks to all of you:
1. did not know about LILYPOND_GC_YIELD! setting it too 100 changes
drasticaly the speed
2. still do not work with 2.12.3 but I reinstalled 2.12.2 and it
compiles fine in just 11 minutes!
So it seems there is a regression between 2.12.2 and 2.12.3 or 2.13.10.
How can we find
Try to add this setting to your root ly file:
#(debug-set! stack 10)
I tried that but saw no difference.
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Since I normally program in lisp, I don't have any problems with
nested delimiters. Are you suggesting that excess (at least to your
eyes) braces are the problem or are you suggesting that the \stop is
at the wrong level?
I was wondering why you add braces here: { a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }.
I'm looking for an example of text spanning that does not invoke an
extra staff--- is there such a thing?
Then why do you want a spanner? Why not just a markup like c^this
is my text without any dash?
Frédéric
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Because according to the documentation 'Text spanners' is precisely
what I want. Not to mention the fact that I do want the text with
dashes. I'm asking aboutthe extra staff, not the dashes. I'm looking
to span many bars with 'let ring - - - -' just so you understand that
your suggestion
It would also help if the suggested change worked. In stead I still get:
Maybe it is because you use curly braces { } everywhere. Try to put
the \stop... inside the { } block and not outside. But why using so
many braces?
Frédéric
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Sorry for the delay. Is the \bar |. vital for this issue? If
not, policy is to omit it.
Can be removed. Here is the patch without it.
Frédéric
0001-known-issue-in-NR-extra-cautionnary-accidentals-in-a.patch
Description: Binary data
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Didn't you already push it? It appeared in my git tree, but maybe
I committed it locally but forgot about it?
If it's already pushed, you'll need to make a new patch against
master; go ahead and push that.
Hi Graham, I don't think I have write permissions in the git
repository so if it has
- estimated time: 30 minutes a week. (not counting normal reading
of mailists)
Can you say how you do it in 30 minutes because each time I want to
update the NR after a small modification, its 15 to 20 minutes of
compilation...
Do you have a secret to make it quicker?
Frédéric
Could you prepare a patch adding the known behavior and this workaround to
the Known Issues in Displaying pitches in pitches.itely?
Here is a patch for the Notation Reference.
Frédéric
0001-known-issue-in-NR-extra-cautionnary-accidentals-in-a.patch
Description: Binary data
Again, the only solution is to get more people involved. Is it
easy? No, but the only way to make it easier for new developers
is for more people to join, learn stuff, then write about what
they learned.
Hi, I would like to share my experience of starting lilypond
developer. I am already a
BTW, I have found a strange behaviour of modern accidentals rule:
LilyPond considers volta alternatives as previous measure. Is this
correct? (Note the natural sign at the 2nd and 3rd alternatives, not
related to the previous _played_ measure.)
Yes, this is known behaviour. Here is the
Could you prepare a patch adding the known behavior and this workaround to
the Known Issues in Displaying pitches in pitches.itely?
OK, I will do that.
Frédéric
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What does this error mean? programming error: Adding reverse rod
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What do these errors mean?
programming error: Improbable offset for stencil: Infinity staff space
Setting to zero.
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Improbable offset for stencil: NaN staff space
Setting to zero.
continuing, cross fingers
Frédéric
I still must be blind, but haven't got the solution to work.
You did not look in detail at my proposition: replace s
s2\stopTextSpan by s2 s8 s8\stopTextSpan
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Thank you for your help. I have altered your example to the attached below
and then went and tried to apply it to my score and for a reason I cannot
understand it won't compile.
I've attached it too.
If you have the time would you take a look a see what I'm doing wrong? The
file will
You have forgotten plenty of closing
Some email clients will remove those, so this isn't necessarily
a problem in his original file.
Should not be that as the file was attached, not included in the message.
Frédéric
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It is funny. I was quite sure to have the solution but I do not
understand why what I propose does not work: you have to separate
notes and TextSpan in parallel music expressions.
Can somebody tell why this does not work?
Frédéric
\version 2.12.2
\new Score
\new Staff \relative c' { \time
Because your construct doesn't have two Voice constructs, only two
expressions in the same Voice.
Works fine, thanks! But I still do not understand why it does not work
with only one voice (i.e. without \new Voice).
Frédéric
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I just checked Honegger's score for Jeanne d'Arc and tempo marks are above
the top staff and then below for the strings. I've looked in the manual 2.12
and snippets and I don't see a way to do this.
I tried setting it for the top instrument in each group and that did not work.
The attached
\alternative {
c1
c1 { s2.. \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f)) }
}
That works very fine. Thank you. Frédéric
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HI,
In the following snippet, I would like to have the rehearsal mark A on
the same line as the last volta bracket.
Any idea?
Frédéric
\relative c'' {
\repeat volta 2 { c1 }
\alternative { c c }
\mark \default c
}
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I would like neo-modern automatic accidentals at voice level.
Any idea how to?
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Hi,
A friend of mine is used to Finale. I try to convert him to lilypond.
What is the best way to convert a score from Finale to Lilypond?
Regards,
Frédéric
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I would like the default behaviour of 2/4 time, i.e. beams end at the
end of each beat.
However, if there are only 8th notes in the measure, I would like the
beam not to stop half measure as shown below.
Is it possible to achieve that with automatic rules? With 2.13 maybe?
but I did not see
It's not so straightforward and there is no 100% perfect solution. However,
several good approaches can be found on the LSR (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ ).
Simply search for dynamics and the first snippet will be your man.
Very good. Thanks! Problem solved.
I should have thought at the LSR...
Hi,
In the following example, I define a new dynamic mark p ausdrucksvoll.
I would like the p to be centered below the note and ausdrucksvoll
written to the right.
This works fine with \markup command but \markup command is not
printed on the same line as dynamics, in particular with hairpins.
I
Hi,
I would like the default behaviour of 2/4 time, i.e. beams end at the
end of each beat.
However, if there are only 8th notes in the measure, I would like the
beam not to stop half measure as shown below.
Is it possible to achieve that with automatic rules? With 2.13 maybe?
but I did not see
In the following example, beams for 8 notes end at 1:4, 2:4, 3:4 and 4:4
but the only thing I can find in scm/auto-beam.scm about time 2/4 is:
((end 1 32 2 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 1 8))
((end 1 32 2 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 2 8))
((end 1 32 2 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 3 8))
How can I revert this
durations combinations for which beam ending rules are
pre-defined, unless these have all been reverted. There are predefined
rules for time signatures of 3/2, 3/4, 4/4, 2/4, 4/8, 4/16, 6/8, 9/8
and 12/8.
Frédéric
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I've read the notational guide for \ marking for decrescendo.
To my understanding it is possible to mark it for a note.
However, if I want to start it for a note in the bass clef, is this possible?
I have the following in treble clef (in 2/4 time):
c e, c4. d,,16( dis16)
And this in the
Back then I created a cartoonish music-note character as a joke:
http://valentin.villenave.info/lilypond/sketchbook/lilypond.png
I still use it every now and then on the unofficial LilyPond community
website, lilynet.net .
I like it very much. It would be nice to have it as a wallpaper!
I am using the editor TeXShop with MacOSX, and so I cannot enter French
characters via the editor.
I did not find 3.3.3 of the reference manual useful. How/where does one
find the hex code for e' for instance? Googling
ISO/IEC did not shed any light on how to find the actual codes.
Thanks, but the first two lines of your attachment came through as
e cute: 'squareroot sign' 'copywrite sign'
e grave: 'squareroot sign' 'copywrite sign'
which I cannot use. There seems to be a transmission error here but
You still must enable UTF-8 mode in your editor.
Frédéric
Does anybody know any good free midi player for windows?
I mean so that intrument sounds are like the real instruments, not an
awful output.
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You won't need to use Cygwin to run Lilypond anymore. Just get the windows
version of the binary (the .exe file) here:
You can then use it from cygwin if you want.
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If you move the Metronome_mark_engraver and Mark_engraver from the
Score context to another context, you also need to move the
Staff_collecting_engraver.
I do not understand what it is for but it is clearly better: there is
no page break at each end of line.
Both engravers need the
I tried to add a snippet but I get the following message : No output
from lilypond.
Is it because the LSR works with 2.10.12? If so, why not switching to
current stable release 2.12.2?
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What does that mean?
programming error: Multi_measure_rest::get_rods (): I am not spanned!
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Object is not a markup.
continuing, cross fingers
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Hi!
I tried to play with the contexts and engravers but cannot reach
exactly what I would like. Please look at the example given at the
bottom of this message.
I would like the tempo marks, rehearsal marks, bar numbers and text
spanners to be written above and below each StaffGroup. I came up
dammit, i should think a bit more before answering things. TextSpanner has
been moved to the score context, so we need to tell the override to use the
TextSpanner objects in the Score context rather than the default.
Wonderful, you did it! Thank you very much. The more I use lily, the
more I
Halas, for StaffGroup, the trick works but the spanners are all at the
top of the score, not above each StaffGroup.
Frédéric
\version 2.12.0
stringendo = { \textSpannerUp \override StaffGroup.TextSpanner
#'(bound-details left text) = Stringendo }
\new Score
\new StaffGroup \with {
Exellent, it is exactly what I was hoping! I am going back to the
documentation to see if I can learn such magic things.
Thanks!
Frédéric
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remove the Text_spanner_engraver from the individual voice contexts and put
it in the score context.
something like this [n.b.: untested]:
\new Score \with {
\consists Text_spanner_engraver
}
\new Staff {
\new Voice \with {
\remove
I need to put verse numbers in every line of the hymns. There are 3 to 6
verses.
\set stanza = 1. does it for the first line, first verse.
\set shortVocalName = *1.does it for all the lines, first
verse but puts it outside the staff.
You can shift the short name to the
\once \override Score.MetronomeMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1500
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1000
This time the trick do not work, why? I want the bar number to be
below a text spanner:
{ \override BarNumber #'outside-staff-priority = #1
\textSpannerUp
\once \override Score.MetronomeMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1500
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1000
Works very nice! Nice to hear that the user can change those preferences.
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with 2.12.2 (windows):
{ \tempo Ziemlich langsam 4 = 66 R1 \mark \default R1 }
puts A above Ziemlich langsam but I would expect A to be below.
How can I reverse the default behaviour?
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Hello,
I am in charge of the question of (de)crescendo syntax issue in 2.12.2.
Here is what lilypond 2.12.2 currently does (in ly/spanners-init.ly):
- \ and \cr are equivalent: they start a crescendo event on the
previous note: #(make-span-event 'CrescendoEvent START)
- \ and \decr are
not do the full job as it just change the name of
the command, not the behaviour.
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Actually, it's the other way round: \setTextCresc was documented (and meant)
to apply only to the next crescendo, although in reality it was never reset
and its effect continued for all following crescendi. This behavior was fixed
in 2.12 and the effect now really only applies to the next
to `./conducteur.pdf'...
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Hi, using 2.12.1 on windows. Cannot make the chain work between pdf
(acrobat 9), point and click on a note and Vim.
I have set the EDITOR variable to the following but without succes:
C:\Softs\Vim\vim71\gvim.exe
C:\Softs\Vim\vim71\gvim.exe --remote
C:\Softs\Vim\vim71\gvim.exe --remote
When I
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which is not very nice.
Any clue?
Frédéric Bron
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by the way, do you know how to change the default indentation in
lilypond files from 2 spaces to 1 tabulation?
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What does this mean? (using 2.10.33, cygwin)
programming error: (de)crescendo on items with specified volume.
continuing, cross fingers
in the midi file, the voices disappear sometimes.
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I am using 2.10.33 (cygwin).
I like to use #(set-accidental-style 'modern-cautionary) because it is
easy to forget that a c sharp become c natural in the following measure
and this option puts an extra cautionary accidental (natural) in the
following measure.
However, I would like something
Do you know why the postscript files produced by lilypond (2.10.33,
cygwin) are not compatible with psbook and psnup?
To prepare the printing on A3 paper, I used to do the following with
lilypond 2.6.0:
psbook score.ps | psnup -2 score.2.ps
With the output of 2.10.33, the output of psbook
You could do the following: install 2.6.5-1 for Windows from
http://lilypond.org/web/install/older-versions
and run it from Cygwin. This is perhaps easier.
Fred
Thomas Scharkowski a écrit :
Thomas Scharkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there any chance to reinstall 2.4.6?
When you run
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