with Sibelius. Why can't Lilypond have the same intuitive chord
markup language utilized by Sibelius? Is there a good reason I can't
simply type C:7#9?
How about c:7.9+ or c:9+' ? They both work in 2.9 and probably work
in 2.8.
They do both give C7/#9 Is the slash a problem?
Paul Scott
S L Raymond wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
S L Raymond wrote:
I'm still frustrated with chord name entry. Since I upgraded to 2.6, I
lost the ability to place a 7#9 chord in a lead sheet. This is a
common
chord in jazz! What's the solution?
I checked the regression tests page, and there's
lists I've been on follow the same practice as the LilyPond ones.
All other lists I'm on don't.
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help me, please?
Can you just use \afterGrace with your own slur if necessary or is the
way slurs are handled the problem? I often use \grace in place of
\acciaccatura since it is easier to type and takes up less space in my code.
Paul Scott
Nicolas Sceaux wrote:
Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2.8.0
Should I expect before-title-space to work between the end a system
and a header consistently only of piece?
I'm not sure to understand the question, but here is an answer :)
It seems that the rule for spacing systems
the notes contained in the braces. This doesn't seem
to be true but seems the most obvious to me. IOW I don't see why I
should have to do:
\times 2/3 { a8[ b c] }
or
\grace{ a16[ b] }
which I often (if not always) have to do.
Paul Scott
Graham Percival wrote:
On 6-Apr-06, at 6:03 PM, Paul Scott wrote:
Graham Percival wrote:
On 6-Apr-06, at 12:46 PM, Stewart Holmes wrote:
\times 2/3 { des,8 ees f } \times 2/3 { des,8 ees f } \times 2/3 {
des,8 ees f } \times 2/3 { des,8 ees f }
These triplets are all joined together
/~hanwen/cygcheck.exe
Don't have permission to D/L the above.
* download http://lilypond.org/~hanwen/checksum.py
The above D/L's fine.
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16, in ?
import optparse
File /usr/lib/python2.4/optparse.py, line 72, in ?
try:
File /usr/lib/python2.4/gettext.py, line 49, in ?
import locale, copy, os, re, struct, sys
ImportError: No module named struct
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.
Also why doesn't installing a new version just overwrite the previous
version or use a different version subdirectory as I believe it did at
one time?
All this information should be easily accessible from the
web page instead, in my opinion.
Agreed.
Paul Scott
Paul Scott wrote:
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Could you please add some documentation on how to
install and uninstall. Currently, the only available
documentation is included in the package as --help text
and the information on how to uninstall, which is printed
at the end of the installation
Paul Scott wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Could you please add some documentation on how to
install and uninstall. Currently, the only available
documentation is included in the package as --help text
and the information on how to uninstall, which is printed
at the end
Paul Scott wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Could you please add some documentation on how to
install and uninstall. Currently, the only available
documentation is included in the package as --help text
and the information on how to uninstall, which is printed
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
Ok. It would be good if an uninstall hint showed up when we get:
Director /usr/local/lilypond/ already exists.
Remove old lilypond installations before installing this one.
Good point. I've added this for the next release.
Great! Thanks.
I have
Paul Scott wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
Ok. It would be good if an uninstall hint showed up when we get:
Director /usr/local/lilypond/ already exists.
Remove old lilypond installations before installing this one.
Good point. I've added this for the next release.
Great
-- \times 2/3 { r8[ e c] \glissando }
Easy enough to work around but does it make sense?
Thanks,
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Mats Bengtsson wrote:
It certainly makes sense, since the glissando should be
attached to the note, not to the triplet, right?
Right. The exact same syntax makes sense for polyphony but not for
strictly sequential music.
Paul
/Mats
Paul Scott wrote:
2.9.1 on Debian sid
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
If you put something within double quotes, LilyPond will treat it as
a single character string. In my opinion, this makes perfect sense.
How else would you for example be able to print the text \flat
in you needed it?
Ok. Then is there any way shorter than \line{ ... } to
Erik Sandberg wrote:
On Thursday 30 March 2006 07.11, Paul Scott wrote:
\version 2.8.0
This doesn't work:
{ c''1^\markup{ B \flat } }
These work:
{ c''1^\markup{ B \flat } [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{ c''1^\markup{ \line{ B \flat } } }
I needed something to work in \column. I first tried
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Do the angle bracket delimiters still work in \column which is the
point of all this?
No! The current syntax is described in the manual. I don't see what
the point should be.
The manual describes the syntax as args (list of markups). Where is
list of markup defined?
2.8.0
Should I expect before-title-space to work between the end a system and
a header consistently only of piece?
TIA,
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Thies Albrecht wrote:
Hi folks!
Paul Scott schrieb:
3. 9/4 time will cause a half note to cross a bar line which I
don't believe Lily will do. You original suggests 14/4.
That's exactly what I experienced if you're talking about line breaks
at that bar line. Perhaps a short hint should
Graham Percival wrote:
On 15-Mar-06, at 9:10 AM, Paul Scott wrote:
Would it not be helpful if Lily gave an error when the wrong number
of beats are in a bar
This is exactly what the bar line check does! See 6.2.4 Bar check!
c'4 c c c | c c c c |
Certainly but I for one don't put
Graham Percival wrote:
On 15-Mar-06, at 9:53 AM, Paul Scott wrote:
Graham Percival wrote:
This is exactly what the bar line check does! See 6.2.4 Bar check!
c'4 c c c | c c c c |
Certainly but I for one don't put | at the end of every bar. I
normally only use | when I have a problem
Orm Finnendahl wrote:
Am 15. M�rz 2006, 11:31 Uhr (-0700) schrieb Paul Scott:
So it could be reasonable to give an error when the number of beats/bar
is exceeded (when not in a cadenza).
Dir you read my post regarding Renaissance Music and the example in
3.5.1?
Yes. See my next
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jango wrote:
thanks a lot.
1. probaly I do misunderstand it :) I am an expert in music, just trying to
engrave some pieces, and that's tough in the beginning :D though I read the
manual :D btw, is it bad, that I change \relative keys several times in one
voice?
2. the original music piece
||
\time 9/4
b4\( c2 d2\) d4 d4 c2\( b2\) a2\( b4 c4\)
}
altoMusic = \relative c''
{
I don't have 2.6 installed but with 2.7.38 adding a 'g2' here produced
the expected results.
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a couple of posts that people sent two days ago and nothing after 2-26.
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much what I've been getting. I just sent a query to
Han-Wen and Jan.
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Paul Scott wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
So I would have to change that compile flag from CVS to build a
version for this machine?
just wait for the next GUB
My AMD K7 machine just crashed and I installed GUB 2.7.36 on my K6-2
(not the K6 in the previous part
bears388 wrote:
Dear Paul,
It appears to make no difference where the \header goes. It doesn't
combine either way. But thanks, anyway.
I have a working example of what you are asking for. Some double angle
brackets may be necessary:
\book {
\score {
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
}
etc., etc }
}
\score {
\header {
piece = A minor }
etc. etc
}
}
I believe for some reason the \header follows the music when it's in the
\score block.
\score {
{ etc., etc }
\header {
piece = C major }
}
Paul Scott
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
what kind of machine is this (CPU)?
i386 - AMD K6
Have you ever run a prepackaged 2.7 binary successfully?
Haven't run Lily on this box before.
K6 is a very old chip which doesn't support SSE2 (which I suspect is
used in the GMP library
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
Looks like I may have the wrong kernel installed. I'll take it from
here. I hope you didn't waste too much of your time on this.
no, that won't help. we were compiling libgmp with -march=pentiumpro,
which uses non-K6 instructions.
So I
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
So I would have to change that compile flag from CVS to build a
version for this machine?
just wait for the next GUB
Thank you!!
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Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
This is a different machine (i386) with a new installation of Debian
sid that has not run Lily yet.
ldd -v `which lilypond` gives:
not a dynamic executable.
I'm looking for the output of the binary which will be in
/usr/local/lilypond/usr
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
I may be just missing some package. The best I could do on this
machine was to install 2.6.3 to get some of the packages correct.
There were no error message in the install.
TIA for any ideas,
do
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
I'm looking for the output of the binary which will be in
/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond
preferably with LD_LIBRARY_PATH setting done by /usr/local/bin/lilypond
ok.
ldd looks fine.
what kind of machine
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
This is a different machine (i386) with a new installation of
Debian sid that has not run Lily yet.
ldd -v `which lilypond` gives:
not a dynamic executable.
I'm looking for the output
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
You didn't tell us what version you are running. I believe there
have been times when raggedbottom hasn't been correct. I just tested
a 3 line example (with 'raggedbottom = ##t' in the paper block) with
2.7.33 and it worked perfectly. I have also
tell us what version you are using and send a small sample that
shows the behavior.
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case.
3. You must spell the key words in the \header correctly.
This works:
\header{
title = Major Minor Scales
piece = G major
}
{
\key g \major
g a b c' d' e' fis' g' g' fis' e' d' c' b a g
}
HTH,
Paul
Thanks,
Michael.
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results.
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have D/L'd it is a script which at least has a double /
which seems wrong but even when I correct that I get the same error.
This is all on two different machines both running Debian sid.
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With 2.7.31 from CVS on Debian sid I am trying to slur into a 2nd ending
from an invisible note with the attached code. In one variation the
slur doesn't happen. In the other a note is hidden that shouldn't be.
Thanks for any ideas,
Paul Scott
\version 2.7.31
\relative c'' {
\repeat
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
I finally read that section as well as the section on multiple
movements. From the examples I *might* infer that only piece and
opus can be changed in a new score.
That is correct. If it isn't clear, I'll look at making it more
clear
Graham Percival wrote:
On 22-Jan-06, at 11:40 PM, Paul Scott wrote:
Add to the current text in 10.1.13 Creating titles:
Here is a demonstration of the fields available. Note that you may
use any Text markup
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.7/Documentation/user/lilypond/Text-
markup.html#Text
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
Can more than header parts than piece be changed now?
Read at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.7/Documentation/user/lilypond/Creating-titles.html#Creating-titles
to find the answer.
I finally read that section as well as the section on multiple
Graham Percival wrote:
On 22-Jan-06, at 10:10 PM, Paul Scott wrote:
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Read at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.7/Documentation/user/lilypond/Creating-
titles.html#Creating-titles
to find the answer.
I finally read that section as well as the section on multiple
in the frets.ly file will just
replace the text
'\include frets.ly'
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Paul Scott wrote:
Besides the several editors commonly used by LilyPond people mentioned
on this list there are several nice shareware editors which really are
text editors like EditPad.
Several nice text editors for Windows? Can you name some of the others
by LilyPond people mentioned
on this list there are several nice shareware editors which really are
text editors like EditPad.
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not able to solve the last problem: lilypond fails to generate the
pdf file...
Is it possible to solve these problems?
Are you saying it doesn't install after making the above corrections or
it installs but doesn't work correctly?
Paul Scott
moment, and nothig - at least not lilypond
- was installed).
As was noted by someone, the sh archive erroneously uses tar -xzf iso.
tar -xjf for extraction. This will be adressed in the next release
Changing the z to a j just gave a corrupted file message.
Paul Scott
With at least 2.7.25 through current CVS a minor (:m only one I tested)
chord name takes more vertical space than a simple chordname.
Change one of the a chord names in the attached to see this.
Paul Scott
\version 2.7.12
\include minorspacenotes.ly
#(set-global-staff-size 24)
\score
Windows you may need
Cygwin or something.
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| }
\header{ piece = Second movement }
\layout{}
\midi{\tempo 4=120 }
}
Can more than header parts than piece be changed now?
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a rather old
fashioned feel and while useful aren't particularly interesting.
That's an interesting observation, given that LISP is probably older
than all of the languages you mention :)
Fortran was invented in 1954. The implementation of LISP began in Fall
1958.
Paul Scott
Trevor Bača wrote:
On 1/1/06, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Art Hixson wrote:
Over the years I've written hundreds of thousands of lines of
Fortran, Cobol, assembly for a variety of machines, Forth, Rexx,
Modula, Python. While Modula
Pedro Kröger wrote:
Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The change just made it to the website. The text and link point to
2.7.19.1 but the actual version at
http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/autopackage/ is 2.7.19 so the
link doesn't work.
my mistake, I just corrected
Pedro Kröger wrote:
Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is the web site behind or is 2.7.14.1 the latest safe version?
the web is behind, I just updated it.
Any reason I shouldn't install 2.7.19 for testing purposes?
none I can think of.
Thanks.
2.7.19 may have
Paul Scott wrote:
Pedro Kröger wrote:
Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is the web site behind or is 2.7.14.1 the latest safe version?
the web is behind, I just updated it.
The change just made it to the website. The text and link point to
2.7.19.1 but the actual version at
http
I see that the autopackage for 2.7.19 exists but the web site only show
2.7.14.1. Is the web site behind or is 2.7.14.1 the latest safe version?
Any reason I shouldn't install 2.7.19 for testing purposes?
Thanks,
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primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path
I was using 2.7.10. I will now try 2.7.11
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Paul Scott wrote:
On my Debian sid system (completely up to date) the upgrade
autopackage for any x86 for 2.7.12 fails looking for the correct
version of Guile
The install version fails with:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/stfrancis$ lilypond-2.7.12 --ps cityofgodE.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.7.12
ERROR
Gianluca D. wrote:
Alle 13:05, domenica 9 ottobre 2005, Paul Scott ha scritto:
On my Debian sid system (completely up to date) the upgrade autopackage
for any x86 for 2.7.12 fails looking for the correct version of Guile
The install version fails with:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/stfrancis
Paul Scott wrote:
Gianluca D. wrote:
Alle 13:05, domenica 9 ottobre 2005, Paul Scott ha scritto:
The install version fails with:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/stfrancis$ lilypond-2.7.12 --ps cityofgodE.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.7.12
ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file
Paul Scott wrote:
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
This should be fixed in 2.7.10 from
http://lilypond.org/download/autopackage
Thanks. Downloading it now.
Works great, thanks!
I'm also glad to know where the other autopackages are!
Paul
Paul Scott wrote:
Both the x86 2.7.9 full install and the upgrade die looking for glib on
Debian sid. 2.6.3.1 installs fine.
I'm not sure if this got through.
2.7.9 for x86 seems to still be broken for Debian sid.
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Debian sid. 2.6.3.1 installs fine.
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with another pair of {}.
\score {
{
\context Voice...
\context Lyrics...
}
}
Or maybe since the lyrics probably go with the voice.
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didn't think ETF was the same as MUS.
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should normally be capitalized - they are centered that
way. There are many numerical possibilities but I do:
R4*5 R4*7 R4*12 R8*7
and I do R4*3 instead of R2. Except for the reversal of the numbers
these are closer to what they represent.
Paul Scott
. the
interpretation of sfz , and ^ also depend on the composer/era.
IOW I don't care what you call it. I just want to be able to engrave
the musical symbol. We could discuss how to interpret it for a long
time but that's not really the job of the LilyPond docs.
Paul Scott
- what's the minimum?
Jay
This is why some lists insist on inline posting. Top-posting is very
confusing. I don't know what Jay fixed.
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though I now have
at the end
\score {
There needs to be some music right here.
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=60 }
}
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Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:
It's the braces that I missed thanks.
You're welcome.
As for the suggestion re; a8 I believed and the results seem to
indicate that the default mode is- whatever value was last entered
remains until changed-
That is correct.
I would think that less
in Illustrator), not PDF.
However, I can't determine where to put the --ps flag, and when I try
to run from the command line, I get errors (can't find
/users/hanwen/...lib, etc.).
I have never run Lily on a Mac but everywhere else I do:
lilypond --ps music.ly
Paul Scott
that's what you were asking about.
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Hans de Rijck wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for your answer. I see what you mean, and it certainly looks good,
but it will be almost impossible to generate this from the input.
You mean the published input?
Anyway I believe this:
{ f''8.\p( e''16 f''8 c'' f' 8 e'' g' 2) } \\ c''4.
does
] } \times 2/3 { es [ ges
bes ] } a ~
\time 5/8
a 8 \times 2/3 { ges [ f es ] } \times 2/3 { c [d c ] }
\time 4/4
\times 2/3 { es [ ges f ] } c' 4 bes 8. bes 16 bes 4
Paul Scott
But in the measure of 5/4 the triplets are beamed correctly but not
labeled as triplets and the barline is before
for odd/even pages? I often need to put the music I print in
(three-hole) binders.
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in the manual or the mailing list archives.
I'm using LilyPond 2.4.5, though I'm planning to upgrade to 2.6.1 soon.
\repeat percent 4 { music }
Look up repeats in the doc's. I didn't see a complete description in my
quick look right now but the above works.
Paul Scott
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/stfrancis$ lilypond-book-2.6.0 --output=out
--psfonts oilbook.tex
lilypond-book-bin-2.6.0 (GNU LilyPond) 2.6.0
Reading oilbook.tex...
Dissecting...
Writing snippets...
Processing...
(snip)
Compiling oilbook.tex...
Writing
just downloaded, compiled it just to please the installer. I rebooted,
just in case some config file nnede to be read. Where do I go from here?
Did you choose Install or upgrade. I just had this problem trying to
upgrade whereas it worked fine when I chose Install.
Paul Scott
shelagh wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:40:31 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
shelagh wrote:
I tried to install lilypond 2.6.1 with the auto installer as my
distribution doesn't package the latest version. My problem is that when
the installer gets to the ghostscript search it says I don't
David Tweet wrote:
That's weird, I just opened wtk-1-fugue2.ly http://wtk-1-fugue2.ly/
(one of the examples from the website) in Notepad and it seems like
the newline character is getting printed as an empty rectangle(???).
That's because the files on the website are *nix text files. Their
EditPad Lite which knows how to convert line
termination between DOS and *nix (and Mac).
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, in get_latex_textwidth
tempfile.tempdir = ''
NameError: global name 'tempfile' is not defined
I just hit that one. It is known. That same python bug is also in the
Linux version. It may be fixed in 2.6.1 and/or 2.7.0
Paul Scott
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Rob Vlasaty wrote:
I installed 2.6.0 for Cygwin on my Windows XP this morning.nbsp; Lilypond says
that it can not find my files when I try to run it.
My other response did not address your first question. Others will
probably pick this up faster and better since I have not run Lily under
' is not defined
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A known python bug just reported several times. It might be fixed in
2.6.1 and/or 2.7.0.
How can I get 2.6.1 for x86?
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Nicholas Haggin wrote:
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This is a known bug that is fixed in the CVS; the Python script
which is lilypond-book is missing import tempfile near the beginning.
If you are feeling courageous :) you can make the change yourself;
just add
the
file, dragged and dropped its icon onto the LilyPond icon; this produced
an (extremely large -- 684 K) .PS file.
Yes, these ps files are ridiculously large for a file with one simple scale.
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Paul Scott wrote:
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
I was just able to find a single menu item pointing to
/usr/bin/lilypond under Multimedia/Jack and More.
Was this created by the autopackage installer?
Probably not.
Even if this pointed to lilypond-2.6.0 what sense does it make
Sacha Standen wrote:
Thanks Mats
The problem is, Lilypond 2.6 on my system only seems to generate PS files
and not PDFs.
To clarify what I'm doing, in case anyone else out there knows about
Lilypond on Windows:
Having written my text file, I then drag it onto the Lilypond icon, which
then
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