Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com To: Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com Cc: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org; Mailinglist lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread Karl Hammar
David Kastrup: ... I know SATB as basically \new ChoirStaff \new Staff { \clef treble { \soprano } \\ { \alto } } \new Staff { \clef bass { \tenor } \\ { \bass } } namely _without_ joining stems. ... Not so fast, \\ is a pain with vocal music, we want a explicit voice name for

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread Carl Peterson
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: I have to my right hand Hymns and Modern, New Standard and behind me Songs of Praise, New Standard. Both of these use separate voices for Sop and Alto; Tenor and Bass. I strongly believe this is the best way of setting

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes: Some hymnals (the same ones) also do not beam flagged notes unless the notes are for the same syllable (in which case, the beam serves as the slur). I have adopted this change. You'll find that switching autobeaming off will make lyric syllables

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread Carl Peterson
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes: Some hymnals (the same ones) also do not beam flagged notes unless the notes are for the same syllable (in which case, the beam serves as the slur). I have adopted this change.

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread Colin Campbell
On 13-09-06 06:55 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com mailto:carlopeter...@gmail.com writes: Some hymnals (the same ones) also do not beam flagged notes unless the

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread Carl Peterson
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:59 PM, David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.comwrote: In practical terms, Carl's and my hymn books may in fact be considered correct, because in many churches and/or church-music traditions, the congregation is expected to sing in unison most of the time, the choir

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread David Rogers
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: I have to my right hand Hymns and Modern, New Standard and behind me Songs of Praise, New Standard. Both of these use separate voices for Sop

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread Carl Peterson
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.comwrote: This probably means that if it bothers me enough, I'm going to have to go back into the part-combiner.scm file and dissect it. While my hands are in the patient, I might as well figure out how to get it to combine

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread Carl Peterson
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.comwrote: So getting back to this, I had somewhat a stroke of inspiration, but I can't find in the documentation whether this is possible. Is it possible to define a global context for all voice ones and all voice twos? In other

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread Mark Polesky
Karl Hammar wrote: Not so fast, \\ is a pain with vocal music, we want a explicit voice name for \lyricsto see below Carl Peterson wrote: Yes. The template I'm using is actually fairly robust. I've moved as many of the tweaks and customizations (such as autobeaming and shaped notes) to

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-06 Thread Carl Peterson
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote: Karl and Carl (and other choral typesetters), I've added a new context to the source code called NullVoice which is designed exactly for this purpose. It's not yet available as a release, but you can get it by

Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-05 Thread Carl Peterson
I am using the automatic part combiner in preparing SATB hymn sheets. The issue I have is that when the notes are chorded by the apc, if there is a slur (in both parts), only one slur is printed (as is seen in the documentation for automatic part combining). In virtually all the examples I've

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes: I am using the automatic part combiner in preparing SATB hymn sheets. The issue I have is that when the notes are chorded by the apc, if there is a slur (in both parts), only one slur is printed (as is seen in the documentation for automatic part

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-05 Thread Carl Peterson
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:44 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes: I am using the automatic part combiner in preparing SATB hymn sheets. The issue I have is that when the notes are chorded by the apc, if there is a slur (in both parts), only

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:44 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes: I am using the automatic part combiner in preparing SATB hymn sheets. The issue I have is that when the notes are chorded by the

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-05 Thread Carl Peterson
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:11 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Well, this is probably going nowhere fast, but it's moderately amusing that it seems to do something: Agreed on both counts. This probably means that if it bothers me enough, I'm going to have to go back into the

Re: Double slurs on automatic part combining

2013-09-05 Thread David Rogers
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:44 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Why would you use the part combiner? I know SATB as basically \new ChoirStaff \new Staff { \clef treble { \soprano } \\ { \alto } } \new Staff { \clef