Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-16 Thread Kira Garvie
Oh my this is getting way more involved than I expected! I’m re-thinking this in terms of the interruption dash Valentin mentioned. The formatting in old hymnals is sometimes really hard to parse out, and there are frequently mistakes, but I think that an interruption dash makes the most sense in

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-16 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Carl, you mean this could be meant as an interruption dash: The fight is on – the trumpet sound is ringing out... In this case I would expect the dash to be evenly spaced between on and the. This could be achieved by using hyphen and overriding the stencil for LyricsHyphen to a dash.

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-15 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-09-15 9:13 pm, David Wright wrote: As others have pointed out, you can line up hyphens with notes by setting them as actual lyrics, but bear in mind that real lyric hyphens have slightly different dimensions from those you insert by hand. (Real ones are typically longer, thinner, and

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-15 Thread David Wright
On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 18:43:06 (-0400), Kira Garvie wrote: > Actually, I had quite a few spelling errors, I am sorry! Verse two is > supposed to be arouse, so that is also a dash. Carl was right, the correct > term was a dash not a hyphen, and putting it in quotes with on: “on – ” > worked

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/15/21, 11:20 AM, "lilypond-user on behalf of Valentin Petzel" wrote: Hello Kira, The problem with this is that how well it works depends on the horizontal spacing of the system. I’ve attached a short example of how you can tell Lilypond to actually align the dash

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-15 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Kira, The problem with this is that how well it works depends on the horizontal spacing of the system. I’ve attached a short example of how you can tell Lilypond to actually align the dash under the note. It involves setting melismaBusyProperties to make Ties not be handles as melisma in

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-15 Thread Kira Garvie
Valentin, No, it didn’t work exactly, but it worked well enough that I am happy with it! On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 1:25 AM Valentin Petzel wrote: > Hello Kira, > > if you use "on –" then you are treating this as one syllable. So this way > Lilypond won't align the – under the tied note, if that

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-09-14 10:25 pm, Valentin Petzel wrote: if you use "on –" then you are treating this as one syllable. So this way Lilypond won't align the – under the tied note, if that is still intended. Could you use a LyricHyphen and just lengthen it to look like an em dash? lyricEmDash = {

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Kira, if you use "on –" then you are treating this as one syllable. So this way Lilypond won't align the – under the tied note, if that is still intended. Cheers, Valentin 15.09.2021 00:43:35 Kira Garvie : > Actually, I had quite a few spelling errors, I am sorry! Verse two is >

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread Kira Garvie
Actually, I had quite a few spelling errors, I am sorry! Verse two is supposed to be arouse, so that is also a dash. Carl was right, the correct term was a dash not a hyphen, and putting it in quotes with on: “on – ” worked perfectly, and it looks great! Sorry for the mistakes, and thank you for

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 18:05:17 (-0400), Kira Garvie wrote: > Okay, I tried that, but it bumps the lyrics all over one. In the original > page scan, which I am following, the hyphen falls right under the tied d > 8th note. How do I override the tie to get the hyphen there? You don't want a hyphen

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread Kira Garvie
Hi Carl, What do you mean by a code sample? I am sorry to be so ignorant - I was told I would be using MuseScore, then day one of this gig told "here, learn Lilypond instead" so I had to kind of crash-course this! those are very different little beasts! Thank you! Best, Kira On Tue, Sep 14, 2021

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/14/21, 4:13 PM, "lilypond-user on behalf of Valentin Petzel" wrote: So if I get the right: You want to have the hyphen under the tied note? This could be done by \once\set melismaBusyProperties = #' You could also do "on -" instead of on for the lyric (and it shouldn't

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread Karlin High
On 9/14/2021 5:05 PM, Kira Garvie wrote: Okay, I tried that, but it bumps the lyrics all over one. Try an underscore between the word "on" and the hypen: The fight is on_- the trump -- pet sound -- Karlin High Missouri, USA

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread Kira Garvie
Absolutely no purpose, other than that it is in the original scan and my instructions were to follow the original as closely as possible! It is from a 1989 Baptist hymnal that has some interesting formatting issues, so yes, it is absolutely not practical. Thank you though!! On Tue, Sep 14, 2021

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread Valentin Petzel
So if I get the right: You want to have the hyphen under the tied note? This could be done by \once\set melismaBusyProperties = #'() before the tied note (after ~) and then have the other stanzas skip that one note. May I just ask: What would be the purpose of this hyphen there?

Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Kira, You can use any sort of markup for lyrics. So you can simply type "-" to create a hypen. Cheers, Valentin Am Dienstag, 14. September 2021, 23:46:56 CEST schrieb Kira Garvie: > Hello all, > If there is a literal hyphen in the text, not a hyphen that breaks > up/extends a single

Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?

2021-09-14 Thread Kira Garvie
Hello all, If there is a literal hyphen in the text, not a hyphen that breaks up/extends a single word, how do I indicate that to Frescobaldi? Thank you! (I couldnt find it on the manual!) the text is: The fight is on - the trumpet call is ringing out... (old Baptist hymn.) Thank you! Best, Kira