Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-10 Thread David Sumbler
On Tue, 2017-02-07 at 23:01 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > Meanwhile why not use some of the workarounds? > > (1) > \mark \markup <\[center-]column> > (already mentioned) > > (2) > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=976 > or > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=977 > > (3) > http://old.nabble.co

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > The fact that these workarounds exist prompts the question: > if the problem can be worked around, why must we continue > to have a problem to work around? If the problem that humans can’t fly unassisted can be worked around [by way of aircraft], why must we continue to have the prob

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread David Sumbler
On Tue, 2017-02-07 at 23:01 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2017-02-04 15:10 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > So my question is: is there any good reason why Lilypond still does > > not > > allow multiple marks or tempo markings? > > > > If the answer to that question really is "yes", then perhaps w

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-02-04 15:10 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > A text mark in Lilypond is represented by a grob called a > RehearsalMark; the grob for a tempo marking is called a MetronomeMark. > > I wonder whether perhaps these names reflect something about the > history of Lilypond: they are certainly not accurate

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread David Sumbler
On Tue, 2017-02-07 at 14:59 -0600, David Wright wrote: > How would you deal with the case where \songName landed on a break? > That's the problem I've had to wrestle with in the past. You'd want > the fermata at the end of a line but the song title at the start of > the next. In the particular cas

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread David Wright
On Tue 07 Feb 2017 at 10:34:14 (+), David Sumbler wrote: > Thank you all for the various suggestions regarding this problem. > > Some of the latest posts have left me slightly bewildered: I wasn't > aware that there was a problem with having a RehearsalMark and a > MetronomeMark at the same po

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 07.02.2017 09:17, David Kastrup wrote: Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: So my question is: is there any good reason why Lilypond still does not allow multiple marks or tempo markings? I can't answer that, but here's a way to get a rehearsal mark and a tempo mark at the same point in time, u

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Phil Holmes
Because it was incorrect syntax, but not shown as such in the logfile. Correct syntax was still \mark \default -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Flaming Hakama by Elaine To: Lilypond-User Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Multiple

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread David Kastrup
Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: >> > I mean that the code for RehearsalMark was just a wrapper round an >> > ordinary mark. So if you tried to put both on the same barline, the >> > underlying engine just saw two ordinary marks, and threw one away. That >> > was very frustrating back then. >> >>

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> > I mean that the code for RehearsalMark was just a wrapper round an > > ordinary mark. So if you tried to put both on the same barline, the > > underlying engine just saw two ordinary marks, and threw one away. That > > was very frustrating back then. > > What exactly do you mean by “back then”?

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread David Kastrup
Wols Lists writes: > On 07/02/17 13:39, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> Hi Wols, >> >>> I mean that the code for RehearsalMark was just a wrapper round an >>> ordinary mark. So if you tried to put both on the same barline, the >>> underlying engine just saw two ordinary marks, and threw one away. Tha

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/02/17 14:33, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Wols, > >> Before then :-) - some time last century :-) > > Is there anyone on the list who can verify when this was a problem? i.e., > which version it stopped being a problem. > I’m seriously curious! > >> I started using lily with 2.4, and I wa

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Wols, > Before then :-) - some time last century :-) Is there anyone on the list who can verify when this was a problem? i.e., which version it stopped being a problem. I’m seriously curious! > I started using lily with 2.4, and I was forever cursing that "feature”. Hmm… I started with 2.1,

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/02/17 13:39, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Wols, > >> I mean that the code for RehearsalMark was just a wrapper round an >> ordinary mark. So if you tried to put both on the same barline, the >> underlying engine just saw two ordinary marks, and threw one away. That >> was very frustrating ba

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Wols, > I mean that the code for RehearsalMark was just a wrapper round an > ordinary mark. So if you tried to put both on the same barline, the > underlying engine just saw two ordinary marks, and threw one away. That > was very frustrating back then. What exactly do you mean by “back then”?

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread David Sumbler
Thank you all for the various suggestions regarding this problem. Some of the latest posts have left me slightly bewildered: I wasn't aware that there was a problem with having a RehearsalMark and a MetronomeMark at the same point in a piece.  Of course, they are formatted and aligned differently

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:21 AM > > Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:00 AM > >> I can't answer that, but here's a way to get a rehearsal mark and a tempo >> mark at the same point in time, using an empty chord: > > > \version "2.19.15" > {

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:00 AM > I can't answer that, but here's a way to get a rehearsal mark and a tempo > mark at the same point in time, using an empty chord: \version "2.19.15" { R1 \mark <>\tempo Allegro 4=120 R1 } This works in 2.19.1

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-07 Thread David Kastrup
Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: >> > > So my question is: is there any good reason why Lilypond still does >> > > not allow multiple marks or tempo markings? >> > > I can't answer that, but here's a way to get a rehearsal mark and a tempo > mark at the same point in time, using an empty chord: >

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-06 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> > > So my question is: is there any good reason why Lilypond still does > > > not allow multiple marks or tempo markings? > I can't answer that, but here's a way to get a rehearsal mark and a tempo mark at the same point in time, using an empty chord: \version "2.19.15" { R1 \mark <

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/02/17 11:07, David Sumbler wrote: > I am unclear about what you mean by an "ordinary mark". The > implication of what you say seems to be that a RehearsalMark and an > "ordinary mark" can be anchored to the same barline - which sounds just > like what I am trying to do. I mean that the code

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-06 Thread David Sumbler
On Sat, 2017-02-04 at 15:48 +, Wols Lists wrote: > On 04/02/17 14:10, David Sumbler wrote: > > > > So my question is: is there any good reason why Lilypond still does > > not allow multiple marks or tempo markings? > Probably because the underlying code makes it very tricky. I feared that tha

Re: Multiple markings

2017-02-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/02/17 14:10, David Sumbler wrote: > So my question is: is there any good reason why Lilypond still does not > allow multiple marks or tempo markings? Probably because the underlying code makes it very tricky. > > If the answer to that question really is "yes", then perhaps we could > have a

Multiple markings

2017-02-04 Thread David Sumbler
A text mark in Lilypond is represented by a grob called a RehearsalMark; the grob for a tempo marking is called a MetronomeMark. I wonder whether perhaps these names reflect something about the history of Lilypond: they are certainly not accurate descriptions of what the objects are used for - e.g