Dear lilyponders,
I didn't realize until I have coded a hymn with 92 measures that two time
signature at bar #78. So I code a test version just bar 76-79 to show the
problen system. I have been playing with code and still couldn't remove one of
them. What should I do?
Also, I run just
Hi Ming,
This is a known issue:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns#grace-notes
You need to add a grace note skip to the other staff context(s) in order to
synchronize.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Am 02.10.2014 um 14:50 schrieb MING TSANG:
Dear lilyponders,
I didn't realize until I have coded a hymn with 92 measures that two
time signature at bar #78. So I code a test version just bar 76-79 to
show the problen system. I have been playing with code and still
couldn't remove one of them
It’s the “grace note bug”. Workaround: insert \acciacatura s8 after \time 6/8
in your right-variable.
hth
patrick
On 02.10.2014, at 14:50, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:
Dear lilyponders,
I didn't realize until I have coded a hymn with 92 measures that two time
signature at bar #78
:
Dear lilyponders,
I didn't realize until I have coded a hymn with 92 measures that two time
signature at bar #78. So I code a test version just bar 76-79 to show the
problen system. I have been playing with code and still couldn't remove one
of them. What should I do?
Also, I run just the right
”. Workaround: insert \acciacatura s8 after \time 6/8
in your right-variable.
hth
patrick
On 02.10.2014, at 14:50, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:
Dear lilyponders,
I didn't realize until I have coded a hymn with 92 measures that two time
signature at bar #78. So I code a test version just
Subject: Two time signature at start of system
Dear lilyponders,
I didn't realize until I have coded a hymn with 92 measures that two time
signature at bar #78. So I code a test version just bar 76-79 to show the
problen system. I have been playing with code and still couldn't remove one
=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of MING
TSANG
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Subject: Two time signature at start of system
Dear lilyponders,
I didn't realize until I have coded a hymn with 92 measures that two time
signature at bar #78. So I code a test version just
:
Dear members,
I'd like to use my roman font digits for proportional symbols in a
Renaissance score. Ho do I replace the Feta font digits with my Roman
Garamond ones?
I've looked at this post, but it does not work with replacing my font:
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Change-time-signature
Dear Simon,
thank you for your answer. Your suggestion works, but I need to insert the
change in the middle of a part. If I put your override code in the \with
part, it overrides also my neomensural initial time signature.
\version 2.18.2
\new Staff
{ \relative c' { %Tenor
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature.font-name = #FontName
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Dear Simon,
thank you
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bass
g1 c e2.d4 c2 b c g c b } }}
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Hi Andrea,
2014-09-02 13:58 GMT+02:00 Jayaratna jayara...@gmail.com:
I am notating it using 3/1 and 6/1 fractions,
but I would like to use timesig.neomensural98 (stroked O) and
timesig.neomensural32 plus number 2 (O2) instead.
How would you do it?
Try :
\version 2.18.2
%\include
\lower #.8 \magnify #1 2
}
#}))
}
{ \relative
For mensural proportions I prefer to have a normal text font number.
Thank you very much!
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2014-09-02 15:34 GMT+02:00 Jayaratna jayara...@gmail.com:
thank you, it works wonderfully.
You're welcome.
I just modified the tenor like this:
\new Staff \with {
\override TimeSignature.stencil = #(lambda (grob)
(grob-interpret-markup grob
#{
Schneidy wrote
Forget \magnify #1, you do not neet it.
Cheers,
Pierre
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Thanks, Mark. PostAntiqua does a pretty good job, IMHO.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: Time signature fonts
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Phil
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net wrote:
I'm typesetting some madrigals from book 2 of the Musica Transalpina.
Part of one of them has the passage attached. This looks like a brief 3/2
passage that reverts to 4/4 (or their perfect/imperfect mensural
On 13 Jun 2014, at 01:26, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote:
Thank you for your detailed and informative response. I shall take time to
study it and the references that you provide.
You are welcome.
In short, one can use any mathematically irrational number and work it back to
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To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:38 AM
Subject: acciaccatura leading to duplicated changed time signature
When I delete the acciaccatura the time signature problem goes away. Any
thoughts?
See
How might one display the time signature 8 + 2 sqrt(5) over 8, and the tuplet
1:1 + sqrt(5), where “sqrt is the square root sign? - It is for experimenting
with a popular meter in 12 [1-2].
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leventikos
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYR_pvRWO_g
Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com writes:
How might one display the time signature 8 + 2 sqrt(5) over 8, and the
tuplet 1:1 + sqrt(5), where “sqrt is the square root sign? - It is
for experimenting with a popular meter in 12 [1-2].
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leventikos
2. https
}
\tuplet 1/1 {
c'4 4 4 4
}
}
Malte
On 12.06.2014 11:11, Hans Aberg wrote:
How might one display the time signature 8 + 2 sqrt(5) over 8, and the tuplet 1:1 +
sqrt(5), where “sqrt is the square root sign? - It is for experimenting with a
popular meter in 12 [1-2].
1. https
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:21, Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote:
This can be done in LilyPond without using LaTeX:
I have made an example incorporating your code; it looks pretty neat. For the
midi, I wrote out the ornaments in a separate version using the 5/3 ratio, so
as to be closer to
On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:54, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com writes:
How might one display the time signature 8 + 2 sqrt(5) over 8, and the
tuplet 1:1 + sqrt(5), where “sqrt is the square root sign? - It is
for experimenting with a popular meter in 12 [1-2
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:21, Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote:
This can be done in LilyPond without using LaTeX:
Oops, a typo in the code: the tuplets should be 2:(1+sqrt 5) - I forgot to
change in your code. So hope it’s OK now.
IrrationalMeter.ly
\version 2.19.6
\header{
On 12.06.2014 22:25, Hans Aberg wrote:
Tying this back to LilyPond, the graphical representation will look the same,
only that the meter and the tuplet numbers are changed. There is another
problem in the MIDI file: how to make a better approximation than 3:2. The next
is 5:3, but then one
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Subject: Re: Irrational time signature and tuplets
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:21, Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote:
This can be done in LilyPond without using LaTeX:
I have made
On 12 Jun 2014, at 22:30, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote:
(1+sqrt 5)/2 = 1.618... is the golden ratio, phi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
Do you know of other instances of this ratio in music?
The WP [1] mentions one other case where irrational in music is
On 12 Jun 2014, at 22:28, Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote:
I’m not sure whether I understood correctly, but instead of writing something
like
\tuplet 3/2 { c8 d e }
and hiding the tuplet number (and bracket), you can simply write
c8*2/3 d e
I haven’t used that latter notation,
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Subject: Re: Irrational time signature and tuplets
On 12 Jun 2014, at 22:30, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote:
(1+sqrt 5)/2 = 1.618... is the golden ratio, phi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
Do you know of other instances of this ratio in music?
The WP
When I delete the acciaccatura the time signature problem goes away. Any
thoughts?
mib4 r8 mib4 r8
mib4 r8 mib4 r8
mib [mib mib] mib [mib mib]
sol ([fad mib]) \acciaccatura fad mib ([re do]) %adding the acciaccatura
resulted in having 2 cut time signatures%
r4 sol'8 ([mib]) re ([mib])
fad
Am 21.05.2014 07:41, schrieb Carlo Vanoni:
@Urs Liska
Your code did the trick, thanks.
Glad it helped.
I just want to stress that it's not my code. See
%{
Engraver that suppresses the printing of a
time signature if it is the same that is
currently in effect.
Author: David
I can see your point. I recently was transcribing a piece where the time
signature changed regularly. If I were breaking that piece into different
parts, then putting them together in a song section, I would want
adjacent time signatures that were the same to not reprint.
Thanks for bringing up
Hi everyone!
I have a score with some time changes. I'm using variables for the various song
section. Each section has it's own time (more useful than declaring it each
time there is a time change). What happens is that the time signature will be
printed any time it is declared, even when
everyone!
I have a score with some time changes. I'm using variables for the various song
section. Each section has it's own time (more useful than declaring it each
time there is a time change). What happens is that the time signature will be
printed any time it is declared, even when no time changes
declaring it
each time there is a time change). What happens is that the time signature
will be printed any time it is declared, even when no time changes occurs.
Here is a simple example:
%
\version 2.18.0
verse = { \time 4/4 c2 c2 | c2 c2 | }
verseFirstEnd = { \time 4/4 d2 d2
is that the time signature
will be printed any time it is declared, even when no time changes occurs.
Here is a simple example:
%
\version 2.18.0
verse = { \time 4/4 c2 c2 | c2 c2 | }
verseFirstEnd = { \time 4/4 d2 d2 | }
verseSecondEnd = { \time 2/4 c2 | }
song = {
\new Staff
2014-05-07 0:01 GMT+02:00 Kate Sekula ksek...@usao.edu:
Is there a way to have a decimal, such as 3.5, as the numerator in a time
signature?
Try :
%%%
\version 2.18.2
decimalTS = \markup {
\override #'(baseline-skip . 0.5)
\column {
\concat { \hspace #1 \number
Hi,
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Pierre Perol-Schneider
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-05-07 0:01 GMT+02:00 Kate Sekula ksek...@usao.edu:
Is there a way to have a decimal, such as 3.5, as the numerator in a time
signature?
Try :
%%%
\version 2.18.2
Thank you both so much. The help I've received on this list has been
invaluable. I just had to add a \once to the \override or else every time
signature change was the decimal.
~Kate
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Hello,
We are writing a book about Harmony with my friend. At the begining
chapter we will give basic music theory knowledges.
I am trying to write a C Major Scale. The letters between the notes are
the step extentions.
I want to hide the Time Signature (8/1). But I can not.
You will see
Major Scale. The letters between the notes are
the step extentions.
I want to hide the Time Signature (8/1). But I can not.
You will see the code in the attached files.
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\version 2.16.2
global = {
\set Score.timing = ##f
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
}
\new Staff \relative c' {\global
c4 d e f g c d f g \bar ||
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\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
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Hello,
We are writing a book about Harmony with my friend. At the begining
chapter we will give basic music theory knowledges.
I am trying to write a C Major Scale. The letters between the notes
are the step extentions.
I want to hide the Time Signature
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Thank you for your answer. But, I want to add
Robert Schmaus robert.schm...@web.de writes:
Watch out for the correct version - your code is 2.16 but the manual
is 2.17, and a lot has changed between those versions. I'm not even
sure if the \omit command actually existed in 2.16. I also think,
the C-style dot-notation didn't existin 2.16.
Hi,
I didn’t follow all of the discussion. But how about a summary at place
where it can be found and used later? It seems like this won’t go into
the lilypond code right now.
From what I read, there are spacings that are good, some are debatable
and some are agreed that they are not good
On 11/10/2013 12:36 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
One should never _discard_ what an authority has to say and should try
tracking its reasoning, but if the results from following instructions
don't actually lead to convincing results (in particular when
comparing them with the printed results),
posted also seems to me to be rather
close to the key signature.
Best regards!
Gilberto
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Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes:
Although I agree with you that these things are important, there are
certain things that could make problems clearer and are not used. Ex:
it is not standard to write a little 8 under the bass clef when
dealing with Contrabass in a
2013/11/11 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes:
Although I agree with you that these things are important, there are
certain things that could make problems clearer and are not used. Ex:
it is not standard to write a little 8 under the bass clef
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
So, standards change. If that's the case, we can be a forefront of
such changes.
In the case of the measure numbers, this change causes less effective
use of a rectangular printing area. In the age of digital print, the
role of a bounding box
Am 11.11.2013 14:12, schrieb Janek Warcho?:
Another example: for centuries, it was the standard in vocal music to
only beam together notes that are part of a melisma. Now, there was
some reason behind it - to make clear what was a melisma and what
wasn't - but that practice was nevertheless a
In 19th century song notation (e.g. look at all old Peters editions of
Schubert/Schumann etc. songs) slurs were used to indicate melismas - but they
were usually used _in combination_ with beams.
It’s not just 19th century notation: it persisted as the standard in operas
and musicals
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*with* the code
change are much different than discussions without the code.
I will check that, thanks for the tip.
Take care,
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Not sure which practice you hate: slurs or beams? For myself, a singer who
sings for 10s of hours a week, I like slurs to indicate melisma and think
beaming for the same purpose is irritating in the extreme.
Sorry, I was definitely unclear: I, like you, intensely dislike the practice of
Am 11.11.2013 15:34, schrieb Phil Holmes:
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To: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
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Subject: Re: Beam positions and time
2013/11/11 Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com:
David Kastrup wrote
It also sends out a more serious variant of the message this is
important to me without the accompanying so this should make you want
to do the work. It's in general much easier to get something done by
doing it
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To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org; Lilypond-User Mailing List
lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Beam positions and time signature
Hi Phil,
Properly entered, Sibelius does automatically provide lyric extensions.
1. Then the vast majority of the Sibelius scores I’ve seen in the last five
years have been improperly entered.
2. Improperly entered, Lilypond doesn’t automatically provide lyric extensions
either. ;)
Cheers,
Hi Gilberto,
2013/11/11 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com:
2013/11/11 Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com:
David Kastrup wrote
It also sends out a more serious variant of the message this is
important to me without the accompanying so this should make you want
to do the work.
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Am 11.11.2013 15:34, schrieb Phil Holmes:
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Not sure which
Phil:
[if] you don't use slurs to indicate melisma, how do you indicate it -
especially with crochets, minims and semi-breves?
Lyric extenders are necessary and (to some eyes) sufficient.
Slurs are simply “suspenders and a belt”… and I happen to be one of those who
vigorously ensure that my
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Hi Phil,
Early music tends to work like that
Really? What editions are you using? I’ve spent a great deal of my life singing
and conducting music composed and/or engraved before ca. 1920, and have found
it almost invariably uses *beaming* (as well as slurs and extensions,
sometimes) to
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Subject: Re: Beam positions and time signature
On 11/11/2013 12:53 PM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
Here the accidental could be mistakenly taken for a part of the key
signature if it's too close. (The example appears fine to me when I
compile it, but I would like to mention it anyway.)
I think the worst case on my .PNG image was the one with
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On 11/11/2013 05:35 PM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
Here we go:
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n153739/image.png
As you can see, the distances here are roughly 1 and 1.5 units, while the
example I posted before (with clef and with more accidentals) has a
distance of merely 0.5
On 11/11/2013 12:53 PM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
Although I agree with you that these things are important, there are certain
things that could make problems clearer and are not used. Ex: it is not
standard to write a little 8 under the bass clef when dealing with
Contrabass in a
that I found certain behaviors from LilyPond that seem
to: a) go against what at least one source states, b) go against most (or
all) of my other scores, c) I subjectively find a bit ugly. This is true to
my discussion here concerning the spacing between clef/time signature and
the first note, and also
Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes:
Regardless of that, I really hope I didn't gave the impression I want
to force people to change certain things on LilyPond only because of
what I think.
Why would you want them to do anything other than what you think?
I already exposed
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I don't see a point in continuing this. It is obvious that I am wildly
unsuccessful providing any help for understanding how the dynamics in
this mailing list and LilyPond development work: it would appear that it
would have been much easier for you and less discouraging to learn this
by
2013/11/11 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
I don't see a point in continuing this. It is obvious that I am wildly
unsuccessful providing any help for understanding how the dynamics in
this mailing list and LilyPond development work: it would appear that it
would have been much easier for you and
On 11/11/2013 07:21 PM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
Peter Bjuhr wrote
Based on these two examples, it would indeed seem that LilyPond is
intelligent enough to adjust for this potential problem; in the first
example where there were no risk of mistakenly take the accidental for a
part of the key
On 11/10/2013 01:39 AM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
And Peter, if I may bother you a bit more, could you also have a look on this
message I posted some days ago if you have the time?
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bar-numbers-position-td153274.html
It also concerns notation standards,
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Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes:
Hi David,
I am sorry if I expressed myself badly, I never wanted to say that you are
proposing to judge things solely by the eye, while I propose to only use
strict rules. What I wrote before was just a comment that came to my head
while
very
wrongly. I am not going to measure the distance between a clef and the time
signature and say look, authority A says we should have 2.5 units here, but
LilyPond outputs only 2.47, what an absurd!
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From: Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com
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Hi
Patrick or Cynthia Karl-2 wrote
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Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes:
Sorry for the confusion, I am used to simply go to nabble.com to post,
answer or simply check what is going on with LilyPond, and I realize
now that by merely clicking reply to someone's message is not enough
to find out where the reply was
dak wrote
So obviously one quotes _only_ what is immediately relevant to the reply.
Sorry, I will be more careful from now on. Thanks for pointing it out.
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clef, key signature, time
signature and the first note of a system? This was the second discussion I
had with this friend of mine about LilyPond.
Take care,
Gilberto
No problem, I'm enjoying every opportunity to explore this excellent book!
I looked before on your first posting, but didn't find
on all these examples, to be honest.
I think that we should balance these distances, her examples are looking
much better than the current output of LilyPond IMO.
What do you think?
Best,
Gilberto
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I'm sorry, I should have been clearer what she actually measures and not
just posted the image! I hope you figured it out anyway!
What she measures is the stave-space. So, you can see her scale as a
staff turned forward 90°. It's a direct relational measure it doesn't
depend on fontsize or
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On 11/09/2013 05:09 PM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
But that is exactly what I did, I turned the staff 90 degrees to create that
ruler.
Yes, I thought so too (good job interpreting Gould just from the
image!). But it wasn't completely clear and I wanted to clarify anyway!
Best
Peter
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Hi Gilberto,
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Gilberto Agostinho
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Great!
So now it would also be nice to hear what others have to say on this issue
of spacing. As you said, Gould book is highly regarded and I think we
should
follow it whenever we find
with and
without accidental(s) so a fix could be easier to implement.
Thanks for you reply, take care!
Gilberto
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be very glad to hear what you and Ms. Gould think about
it (I really need to buy this book as soon as possible!).
Thanks and take care!
Gilberto
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