Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On 2016-07-10 7:06 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: > Of course English poetry used to be alliterative, not rhyming, until > Chaucer introduced that new-fangled French habit of end rhymes! > Getting back to setting music though, would not the driving beat of > alliterative ballards and sagas not lend

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/07/16 23:44, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 10.07.2016 22:20, Wols Lists wrote: >> I was taught fairly early in English lessons that rhyme was not a >> necessary component of poetry; metre, or "bounce" as I sometimes >> describe it, is much more

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 10.07.2016 22:20, Wols Lists wrote: I was taught fairly early in English lessons that rhyme was not a necessary component of poetry; metre, or "bounce" as I sometimes describe it, is much more important. But not necessary either. Many modern poems don’t have any regular rhythm. It’s rather

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Sun, 10 Jul 2016, Wols Lists wrote: I was taught fairly early in English lessons that rhyme was not a necessary component of poetry; metre, or "bounce" as I sometimes describe it, is much more important. Some languages, I understand, rarely rhyme their poetry. I would like to add Well

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread David Kastrup
J Martin Rushton writes: > On 10/07/16 19:48, David Kastrup wrote: >> J Martin Rushton writes: >>> >>> That rather depends upon the translation of the Bible used. The >>> KJV was given a polish from Genesis to Revelation to make

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/07/16 17:47, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 15:57:59 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote: >> On 10/07/16 15:09, David Kastrup wrote: >>> J Martin Rushton writes: On 10/07/16 00:29, Anthony Youngman wrote: > On 07/07/16 19:02, David Wright

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 19:33:17 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote: > On 10/07/16 17:47, David Wright wrote: > > > > > While one might argue that a lot of religious translations might > > have been written with a view to intonement, or recitation at > > least, and therefore with particular

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/07/16 19:48, David Kastrup wrote: > J Martin Rushton writes: > >> On 10/07/16 17:47, David Wright wrote: >> >>> >>> While one might argue that a lot of religious translations >>> might have been written

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread David Kastrup
J Martin Rushton writes: > On 10/07/16 17:47, David Wright wrote: > > >> >> While one might argue that a lot of religious translations might >> have been written with a view to intonement, or recitation at >> least, and therefore with particular attention paid

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/07/16 17:47, David Wright wrote: > > While one might argue that a lot of religious translations might > have been written with a view to intonement, or recitation at > least, and therefore with particular attention paid to the rhythm > of

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 15:57:59 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote: > On 10/07/16 15:09, David Kastrup wrote: > > J Martin Rushton writes: > >> On 10/07/16 00:29, Anthony Youngman wrote: > >>> On 07/07/16 19:02, David Wright wrote: > BTW one of the odd

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/07/16 15:09, David Kastrup wrote: > J Martin Rushton writes: > >> On 10/07/16 00:29, Anthony Youngman wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 07/07/16 19:02, David Wright wrote: BTW one of the odd "assumptions" made in

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread David Kastrup
J Martin Rushton writes: > On 10/07/16 00:29, Anthony Youngman wrote: >> >> >> On 07/07/16 19:02, David Wright wrote: >>> BTW one of the odd "assumptions" made in LP is in that variable >>> called poet. What about compositions whose lyrics are prose? >> >> Of

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/07/16 00:29, Anthony Youngman wrote: > > > On 07/07/16 19:02, David Wright wrote: >> BTW one of the odd "assumptions" made in LP is in that variable >> called poet. What about compositions whose lyrics are prose? > > Of which I guess there

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-10 Thread David Kastrup
Anthony Youngman writes: > On 07/07/16 19:02, David Wright wrote: >> BTW one of the odd "assumptions" made in LP is in that variable called >> poet. What about compositions whose lyrics are prose? > > Of which I guess there are very few :-) "Jerusalem" is a pretty >

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-09 Thread Anthony Youngman
On 07/07/16 19:02, David Wright wrote: BTW one of the odd "assumptions" made in LP is in that variable called poet. What about compositions whose lyrics are prose? Of which I guess there are very few :-) "Jerusalem" is a pretty classic example - about the only one I can think of. Anything

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 07.07.2016 09:43, Andrew Bernard wrote: I was putting the custom PDF fields in the paper block, not the header block (lilypond keeps quite about this). In a \header and \paper block, just like on top level, you can perform any assignment you want. Only question is if the value will be

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On 2016-07-07 5:38 AM, Federico Bruni wrote: > The standard does not take into account that the author of the document > might be different from the author of the __content__ in the document? > > What's more relevant when you search a document? The person who created > the document in a computer

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread David Kastrup
David Wright writes: > On Thu 07 Jul 2016 at 00:52:53 (-0700), Andrew Bernard wrote: >> This may be the standard, but it is woefully ambiguous, and text-centric. >> In the case of a music composition, is is the composer or the engraver? Is >> the ‘document’ the music,

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Thu 07 Jul 2016 at 00:52:53 (-0700), Andrew Bernard wrote: > This may be the standard, but it is woefully ambiguous, and text-centric. > In the case of a music composition, is is the composer or the engraver? Is > the ‘document’ the music, or the setting of it? Neither. It's the PDF document

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno gio 7 lug 2016 alle 9:52, Andrew Bernard ha scritto: On this topic, can we add ‘engraver’ as pdfengraver to have it in the custom PDF fields? This is issue 3820: https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/3820/#e957

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread Anthony Youngman
On 07/07/16 08:38, Christopher R. Maden wrote: On 07/07/2016 02:23 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Federico Bruni writes: Who should be in your opinion the author of a LilyPond score PDF? The composer or the typesetter? Usefulness does not come into play here as long as there

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno gio 7 lug 2016 alle 11:41, David Kastrup ha scritto: Federico Bruni writes: Il giorno gio 7 lug 2016 alle 9:23, David Kastrup ha scritto: Usefulness does not come into play here as long as there is a standard. The PDF standard

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread David Kastrup
Federico Bruni writes: > Il giorno gio 7 lug 2016 alle 9:23, David Kastrup ha > scritto: >> Usefulness does not come into play here as long as there is a >> standard. >> The PDF standard states: > > Where did you take this? PDF reference manual downloaded from

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno gio 7 lug 2016 alle 9:23, David Kastrup ha scritto: Usefulness does not come into play here as long as there is a standard. The PDF standard states: Where did you take this? Key TypeValue Titletext string (Optional; PDF 1.1) The document’s

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread Andrew Bernard
This may be the standard, but it is woefully ambiguous, and text-centric. In the case of a music composition, is is the composer or the engraver? Is the ‘document’ the music, or the setting of it? Setting Author to the name of the composer does not make it clear to anybody who the composer is.

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread Andrew Bernard
Oops. It would help if I paid closed attention to what I am doing. I was putting the custom PDF fields in the paper block, not the header block (lilypond keeps quite about this). Ignore the noise, and apologies. Andrew On 7 July 2016 at 5:25:49 PM, Andrew Bernard (andrew.bern...@gmail.com)

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 07/07/2016 02:23 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Federico Bruni writes: Who should be in your opinion the author of a LilyPond score PDF? The composer or the typesetter? Usefulness does not come into play here as long as there is a standard. The PDF standard states: Key

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Federico, How does one view the additional PDF metadata such as created by ‘pdfcomposer’ in the header in Linux? Indeed, I cannot see this in Adobe Acrobat Pro DC (on Mac) either? Where is it stored and how to display it? Currently using 2.19.44 to try this out. Andrew

Re: PDF author metadata

2016-07-07 Thread David Kastrup
Federico Bruni writes: > Hi all > > I'd like to edit this page of the documentation: > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/creating-pdf-metadata.html > > to add what I learned here: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2016-07/msg8.html > > I

PDF author metadata

2016-07-06 Thread Federico Bruni
Hi all I'd like to edit this page of the documentation: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/creating-pdf-metadata.html to add what I learned here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2016-07/msg8.html I have another question on this subject. Who should be in