Re: System-system spacing and ragged-last-bottom with multiple scores

2023-04-16 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 10:57 AM Ralph Palmer wrote: > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, 8:42 AM Michael Werner wrote: > >> Hi Ralph, >> >> On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 11:27 AM Ralph Palmer >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I'm having a problem with system-system spaci

Re: System-system spacing and ragged-last-bottom with multiple scores

2023-04-16 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, 8:42 AM Michael Werner wrote: > Hi Ralph, > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 11:27 AM Ralph Palmer > wrote: > >> >> I'm having a problem with system-system spacing and ragged-last-bottom >> in a \Book with multiple scores. I was able, at some poi

System-system spacing and ragged-last-bottom with multiple scores

2023-04-16 Thread Ralph Palmer
Hi - My appreciation to all on the list for all the help we pass around. I'm having a problem with system-system spacing and ragged-last-bottom in a \Book with multiple scores. I was able, at some point, to do a ragged last bottom on the first score, but the systems were too close for my comfort

Re: system-system-spacing in \layout block

2022-05-22 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 22/05/2022 à 16:10, Knute Snortum a écrit : On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:47 PM Knute Snortum wrote: On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:14 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: There is a vast array of other options available; I suggest to give more information on your score if none of these two solutions is

Re: system-system-spacing in \layout block

2022-05-22 Thread Knute Snortum
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:47 PM Knute Snortum wrote: > > On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:14 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > > > There is a vast array of other options available; I suggest to give > > more information on your score if none of these two solutions > > is sufficient for you. > > Thank you,

Re: system-system-spacing in \layout block

2022-05-21 Thread Knute Snortum
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:14 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > There is a vast array of other options available; I suggest to give > more information on your score if none of these two solutions > is sufficient for you. Thank you, Jean. As always, a thorough and informative answer!

Re: system-system-spacing in \layout block

2022-05-21 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 21/05/2022 à 21:44, Knute Snortum a écrit : Hi everyone, I'm trying to figure out if I can change system-system-spacing by score, that is, in the \layout block. I have a collection of scores (preludes) where the global \paper settings work fine for some, but I have a score that needs its

system-system-spacing in \layout block

2022-05-21 Thread Knute Snortum
Hi everyone, I'm trying to figure out if I can change system-system-spacing by score, that is, in the \layout block. I have a collection of scores (preludes) where the global \paper settings work fine for some, but I have a score that needs its own system-system-spacing values. My question

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Oh, sorry, I thought it was obvious. I vote against adding a new >> argument to `-dcrop`. > > Why? The description quoted shows that an argumant is optional. My objection is by principle. Backward compatibility doesn't make sense to me for situations that are (a) completely buggy, and (b)

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Wed 13 Jan 2021 at 21:01:42 (+0100), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> > Perhaps the syntax and functionality of -dcrop could be extended to > >> > include: > >> > > >> > ie default #f: as now, no cropped output > >> > -dcrop ie #t: preserve whitespace, set as one long cropped > >> >

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> > Perhaps the syntax and functionality of -dcrop could be extended to >> > include: >> > >> > ie default #f: as now, no cropped output >> > -dcrop ie #t: preserve whitespace, set as one long cropped >> > *page* >> > -dcrop num separate cropped *systems* by num mm

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Wed 13 Jan 2021 at 18:29:12 (+0100), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > Perhaps the syntax and functionality of -dcrop could be extended to > > include: > > > > ie default #f: as now, no cropped output > > -dcrop ie #t: preserve whitespace, set as one long cropped *page* > > -dcrop num

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-13 Thread Niols
On 13/01/2021 18:29, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Perhaps the syntax and functionality of -dcrop could be extended to include: ie default #f: as now, no cropped output -dcrop ie #t: preserve whitespace, set as one long cropped *page* -dcrop num separate cropped *systems* by num mm of

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Perhaps the syntax and functionality of -dcrop could be extended to > include: > > ie default #f: as now, no cropped output > -dcrop ie #t: preserve whitespace, set as one long cropped *page* > -dcrop num separate cropped *systems* by num mm of whitespace > (mm is

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Wed 13 Jan 2021 at 12:11:01 (+0100), Niols wrote: > On 13/01/2021 06:07, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 12 Jan 2021 at 09:30:05 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > > > I’m the OP, and I realize that I failed to provide the context of my > > > workflow. I’ll try to do that now, to help make better use

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-13 Thread Niols
Hi everyone, On 13/01/2021 06:07, David Wright wrote: On Tue 12 Jan 2021 at 09:30:05 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: Hi Werner, Aaron and David (again), I’m the OP, and I realize that I failed to provide the context of my workflow. I’ll try to do that now, to help make better use of all your

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-12 Thread David Wright
eans that my multisystem examples are > less than ideal. That’s all ;) > > Knowing all this, would it be possible to allow for a non-system-packing > version of -dcrop? > > Only because I have hard time imagining a use case for the current > system-packing behavior,

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-12 Thread Noeck
Hi, many years ago, I asked for a -dcrop options for SVG for a very similar usecase: adding SVG images to a website (a markdown extension in particular). It was then implemented some time later and I was happy with it (with my single line scores). It might be that Étienne Beaulé implemented it,

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> In the upcoming release of Abjad’s docs, my workaround has been to > add transparent markup “struts” above notes in the top system, [...] Nice idea! For multi-system cropped output this is a good temporary workaround IMHO. > Knowing all this, would it be possible to allow for a >

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-12 Thread Trevor Bača
On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 6:02 PM David Wright wrote: > On Thu 07 Jan 2021 at 19:57:12 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:29 PM David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 06 Jan 2021 at 11:34:24 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:31 PM David Wright wrote: > >

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> For me, it's a bug, mainly because the behaviour is completely >> unexpected. Also, `-dhelp` says >> >> crop (#f)Match the size of the normal output to the >>typeset image. >> >> which differs from the reality. Note the words 'normal output'.

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-09 Thread David Wright
On Sat 09 Jan 2021 at 07:31:19 (+0100), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> $ lilypond-2.21.80-1.linux-64/bin/lilypond --svg -dcrop Bača.ly > >> will produce the tightly packed: > >> E ┌──┐ > >> │▒▒│ > >> │▒▒│ > >> │▒▒│ > >> └──┘

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-09 Thread David Wright
On Fri 08 Jan 2021 at 15:28:25 (-0800), Aaron Hill wrote (in a different order): > On 2021-01-08 3:01 pm, David Wright wrote: > > To answer your question—why not use the -dcrop option—I think > > we are in agreement that: > > > > $ lilypond-2.21.80-1.linux-64/bin/lilypond --svg -dcrop Bača.ly > >

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> $ lilypond-2.21.80-1.linux-64/bin/lilypond --svg -dcrop Bača.ly >> will produce the tightly packed: >> E ┌──┐ >> │▒▒│ >> │▒▒│ >> │▒▒│ >> └──┘ >> which is what you implied you didn't want (by saying "Is this >>

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-08 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-01-08 3:01 pm, David Wright wrote: To answer your question—why not use the -dcrop option—I think we are in agreement that: $ lilypond-2.21.80-1.linux-64/bin/lilypond --svg -dcrop Bača.ly will produce the tightly packed: E ┌──┐ │▒▒│ │▒▒│

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-08 Thread David Wright
On Thu 07 Jan 2021 at 19:57:12 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:29 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 06 Jan 2021 at 11:34:24 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:31 PM David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 05 Jan 2021 at 19:05:30 (-0500), Trevor Bača

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:29 PM David Wright wrote: > On Wed 06 Jan 2021 at 11:34:24 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:31 PM David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 05 Jan 2021 at 19:05:30 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > > > > I love the functionality for cropped SVGs! (Added back

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-06 Thread Niols
Hello, On 06/01/2021 20:29, David Wright wrote: On Wed 06 Jan 2021 at 11:34:24 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: What I want Lily to do: remove whitespace from the *edges* of an SVG. As I said, you run LP as normal, and then trim to taste. So, taking your example, I ran it with $

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 06 Jan 2021 at 11:34:24 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:31 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 05 Jan 2021 at 19:05:30 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > > > I love the functionality for cropped SVGs! (Added back in 2019, or around > > > then?) > > > > > > Question: it

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-06 Thread Trevor Bača
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:31 PM David Wright wrote: > On Tue 05 Jan 2021 at 19:05:30 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > > I love the functionality for cropped SVGs! (Added back in 2019, or around > > then?) > > > > Question: it appears that cropped multisystem SVGs remove all whitespace > > between

Re: Why does -dbackend=svg -dcrop remove system-system-spacing?

2021-01-05 Thread David Wright
On Tue 05 Jan 2021 at 19:05:30 (-0500), Trevor Bača wrote: > I love the functionality for cropped SVGs! (Added back in 2019, or around > then?) > > Question: it appears that cropped multisystem SVGs remove all whitespace > between systems. Is this supposed to happen? I think that removing all

Re: Can system-system spacing be altered within a \score block?

2020-05-02 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Fr., 1. Mai 2020 um 05:33 Uhr schrieb Brent Annable : > > Hi all, > > I'm currently putting a whole bunch of separate pieces together into one > document, and occasionally I want to manually adjust the distance between > systems in one piece without affecting the spacing in the others.

Re: Can system-system spacing be altered within a \score block?

2020-05-01 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Oh no, that would cause errors for sure. So, you'll have some work for sure... Cheers, Pierre (PS. don't forget to reply to the list) Le ven. 1 mai 2020 à 17:19, Brent Annable a écrit : > Hey Pierre, > > Aha, I see an unfortunate coincidence has muddied the waters a little. By > pure chance,

Re: Can system-system spacing be altered within a \score block?

2020-05-01 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Brent, please find herewith the modified files. Cheers, Pierre Le ven. 1 mai 2020 à 12:57, Brent Annable a écrit : > Hi Pierre, > > Thanks for your answer. I did try that, but because of my file structure > it doesn't work. As soon as I use \bookpart anywhere in my master file, the > output is

Re: Can system-system spacing be altered within a \score block?

2020-05-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Brent, > What I want to do is bring the systems of 'All things bright and beautiful' > closer together on the page. If I do ragged-bottom = ##t they are too close > together; I could insert some \vspaces to move the whole piece down a bit, > but the systems remain too bunched-up for my

Re: Can system-system spacing be altered within a \score block?

2020-05-01 Thread Brent Annable
Hi Pierre, Thanks for your answer. I did try that, but because of my file structure it doesn't work. As soon as I use \bookpart anywhere in my master file, the output is corrupted for some reason -- probably because I'm including multiple files that use higher-level expressions and variables with

Re: Can system-system spacing be altered within a \score block?

2020-05-01 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Brent, You can put the paper bloc in a bookpart, e.g.: \version "2.20.0" music = { \repeat unfold 100 s1 } \book { \bookpart { \score { \music } \header { piece = \markup\bold\fontsize #5 \fill-line { "15" } } \paper { system-system-spacing.basic-distance = 15 } } \bookpart

Can system-system spacing be altered within a \score block?

2020-04-30 Thread Brent Annable
Hi all, I'm currently putting a whole bunch of separate pieces together into one document, and occasionally I want to manually adjust the distance between systems in one piece without affecting the spacing in the others. Because of the file structure I've chosen, I can't include any top-level

Re: system-system-spacing

2019-11-14 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-11-14 3:16 pm, Paolo Prete wrote: Hello, the following syntax was good for some old version of lilypond but obsolete for 2.19: \paper {    system-system-spacing #'basic-distance = #28 ... Please refer to [1] for an example of adjusting paper settings. [1]: http://lilypond.org/doc

system-system-spacing

2019-11-14 Thread Paolo Prete
Hello, the following syntax was good for some old version of lilypond but obsolete for 2.19: \paper {    system-system-spacing #'basic-distance = #28 ... How can I replace it? Thanks

Changing system-system-spacing for individual scores

2017-03-22 Thread Hendrik Fuß
\score { \layout { #(layout-set-staff-size 16) } \music } Problem: I find that the space between systems in the small section is too big. Changing spacings in the paper block would affect both normal size and small size scores. How can I reduce the system-system-spacing without affecting

Re: system-system-spacing unevenness

2015-02-21 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-02-21 20:55 GMT+01:00 Jim Long lilyp...@umpquanet.com: I'd like to take just a slight tangent on the recent thread about increasing system-system-spacing. I often have scores that show up with uneven spacing. A tiny example is attached. First, is it syntactically correct? And second

Re: system-system-spacing unevenness

2015-02-21 Thread Jim Long
Thank you very much, Harm. On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:52:52PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: harmonies = \new ChordNames \with { %% !!! %% from NR: %% Setting staff-affinity to #f causes a non-staff line to be

Re: system-system-spacing unevenness

2015-02-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jim Long wrote Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:55 PM I'd like to take just a slight tangent on the recent thread about increasing system-system-spacing. I often have scores that show up with uneven spacing. A tiny example is attached. First, is it syntactically correct? Yes; not sure

system-system-spacing unevenness

2015-02-21 Thread Jim Long
I'd like to take just a slight tangent on the recent thread about increasing system-system-spacing. I often have scores that show up with uneven spacing. A tiny example is attached. First, is it syntactically correct? And second, how can I get the system spacing more even? The example

Re: System/System spacing

2012-10-13 Thread David Kastrup
Adrian Oehm spa...@hinet.net.au writes: Hi This is probably a dumb question, but can someone please tell me where to find info/examples on (or explain how to) increasing the system/system spacing. I have a piece with 3 systems which looks bunched on the page - I'd like to separate them

System/System spacing

2012-10-13 Thread wjm
Hi Adrian, You wrote +++ This is probably a dumb question, but can someone please tell me where to find info/examples on (or explain how to) increasing the system/system spacing. +++ Try Notation Reference Section 4.1.4 a search for system-system will help

Re: System/System spacing

2012-10-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Adrian Oehm spa...@hinet.net.au wrote: This is probably a dumb question, but can someone please tell me where to find info/examples on (or explain how to) increasing the system/system spacing. Any pointers would be great (I've been scrolling through

Re: System/System spacing

2012-10-13 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/10/13 Adrian Oehm spa...@hinet.net.au: Hi This is probably a dumb question, but can someone please tell me where to find info/examples on (or explain how to) increasing the system/system spacing. Suppose we have this score: \score { \new Staff \repeat unfold 100 b1 } \paper

Re: System/System spacing

2012-10-13 Thread Adrian Oehm
into each \bookpart and then control the system-system spacing basic-distance there... And it works. Thanks again Adrian On 14/10/2012, at 12:01 PM, Francisco Vila wrote: 2012/10/13 Adrian Oehm spa...@hinet.net.au: Hi This is probably a dumb question, but can someone please tell me where

Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-29 Thread Stefan Thomas
for each system. In that way, the become 2 images included in a LaTeX file. That's why the \paper {system-system-spacing} block won't do anything. The subject was mentionned 2 years ago here : http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-01/msg00440.html http://lists.nongnu.org

Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
. In that way, the become 2 images included in a LaTeX file. That's why the \paper {system-system-spacing} block won't do anything. The subject was mentionned 2 years ago here : http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-01/msg00440.html http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html

Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-29 Thread flup2
: \newcommand{\betweenLilyPondSystem}[1]{\vspace{1mm}\linebreak} %%% Philippe -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/system-system-spacing-in-lilypond-book-file-tp31930124p31952839.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

RE: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-29 Thread James Lowe
Subject: Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file Dear Philippe, thanks for Your explanation. It works fine now. I think this should be mentioned explicitly in the manual. --- If you could give me a location and which manual, and perhaps some explanatory text why/what you think needs

Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-29 Thread Stefan Thomas
...@googlemail.com] Sent: 29 June 2011 07:26 To: phili...@philmassart.net; lilypond-user Subject: Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file Dear Philippe, thanks for Your explanation. It works fine now. I think this should be mentioned explicitly in the manual. --- If you could

RE: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-29 Thread James Lowe
Stefan, From: Stefan Thomas [kontrapunktste...@googlemail.com] Sent: 29 June 2011 20:55 To: James Lowe Cc: phili...@philmassart.net; lilypond-user Subject: Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file Dear Philippe, dear james, dear community, I had

Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-28 Thread flup2
Hello, Here is a little explanation about the problem : in fact, when including a lilypond snippet with breaks in a LaTeX document, lilypond-book makes a separate .ly file for each system. In that way, the become 2 images included in a LaTeX file. That's why the \paper {system-system-spacing

system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-26 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, I tried to change the system-system-spacing in a latex-file. Although I was able to increase the system-system-spacing by embedding the score in a book-context, the output isn't convincing. What else could I do? % EXAMPLE % \documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article

Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-26 Thread flup2
Hello, I don't yet know why, but if you add a line oddFooterMarkup=##f in your \paper block, your music fragment doesn't go to the next page. But I was not yet able so solve the ragged problem. Philippe -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/system-system-spacing

Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-26 Thread -Eluze
kontrapunktstefan wrote: Dear community, I tried to change the system-system-spacing in a latex-file. Although I was able to increase the system-system-spacing by embedding the score in a book-context, the output isn't convincing. What else could I do? well, i'm not sure to hit