Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 6/20/18, 6:45 AM, "Urs Liska" wrote: PS: As to the *why* I have the vague recollection that beaming rules define where beams can be *ended*. This would explain why the beam before the break doesn't work but the one after does. Automatic beaming starts when a beamable note is

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi Phil, On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 2:26 PM Phil Holmes wrote: > > You could keep making odd examples of undefined beaming until the cows > come home, but surely it would be a lot quicker just to beam manually??? > I suppose, actually (and I'll talk to Urs about this) that since the sources I'm

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread Urs Liska
hil Holmes > Cc: lilypond-user > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: weird de-beaming behavior > > > Hi Phil, > >On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:18 PM Phil Holmes >wrote: > >I'm no expert on lily's beaming system. However, in your second >e

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread David Kastrup
"N. Andrew Walsh" writes: > Hi Phil, > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:18 PM Phil Holmes wrote: > >> I'm no expert on lily's beaming system. However, in your second example >> you don't break an existing beam with a bar/line break, so it's rather >> different from the first where the "correct"

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:30 PM Subject: Re: weird de-beaming behavior Hi Phil, On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:18 PM Phil Holmes wrote: I'm no expert on lily's beaming system. However, in your second example you don't break an existing beam with a bar/line

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi Phil, On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:18 PM Phil Holmes wrote: > I'm no expert on lily's beaming system. However, in your second example > you don't break an existing beam with a bar/line break, so it's rather > different from the first where the "correct" beaming was broken. > > Not knowing

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread Phil Holmes
To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:27 AM Subject: Re: weird de-beaming behavior Hi Phil, thanks for your message. The thing is, here's another example: \version "2.19.80" \relative c'' { c e, g16 a b8 \bar "&

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread David Kastrup
"N. Andrew Walsh" writes: > Hi David > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:33 PM David Kastrup wrote: > >> >> In this case you have 3 beats before the break. The bar is complete. >> In your first example you had only two. >> > > Both MWEs are complete in themselves, thus the latter, with no \time >

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi David On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:33 PM David Kastrup wrote: > > In this case you have 3 beats before the break. The bar is complete. > In your first example you had only two. > Both MWEs are complete in themselves, thus the latter, with no \time statement, is in the default 4/4. Sorry, I

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread David Kastrup
"N. Andrew Walsh" writes: > Hi Phil, > > thanks for your message. The thing is, here's another example: > > \version "2.19.80" > > \relative c'' { > > c e, g16 a b8 > \bar "" \break > r e, g16 a b8 > } > > The 'g16 a b8' in the first line is beamed correctly. Is this something > peculiar to 3/4

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi Phil, thanks for your message. The thing is, here's another example: \version "2.19.80" \relative c'' { c e, g16 a b8 \bar "" \break r e, g16 a b8 } The 'g16 a b8' in the first line is beamed correctly. Is this something peculiar to 3/4 time? Cheers, A >

Re: weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread Phil Holmes
- From: N. Andrew Walsh To: lilypond-user Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 10:26 AM Subject: weird de-beaming behavior Hi List, I have the following MWE: \version "2.19.80" \relative c'' { \time 3/4 e8 d16 c d8 d \bar "&qu

weird de-beaming behavior

2018-06-20 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi List, I have the following MWE: \version "2.19.80" \relative c'' { \time 3/4 e8 d16 c d8 d \bar "" \break g, f'~ } Notice that the last two eighth-notes in that first line, in this case, are un-beamed. However, when I comment out the next line (starting with the