Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Graham, in the meantime I found out, where I have to install the font on my kubuntu machine. I was able to try out the example. There is one not convincing for me: The default accidental is an natural. But I would like to use fis and ges as before. Wouldnt it a possibilitie to define new

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Graham Breed
Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Graham, in the meantime I found out, where I have to install the font on my kubuntu machine. That's good. I was able to try out the example. There is one not convincing for me: The default accidental is an natural. But I would like to use fis and ges as before.

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Graham, absolutely, I would like to define a list of notenames, for e.g. pitches that are about 15cents lower, But I have no idea how to do it, when I use the HE-font for the accidentals. Off course, I had a look in makam.ly and I found there makamGlyphs = #`((1 . accidentals.doublesharp)

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Graham Breed
Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Graham, absolutely, I would like to define a list of notenames, for e.g. pitches that are about 15cents lower, But I have no idea how to do it, when I use the HE-font for the accidentals. For the code I have, pitch names are defined as: HEPitchNames = #`( (c .

Re: Snow Leopard and Smultron

2009-09-25 Thread Andrew Tucker
On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Graham Percival wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 08:45:38PM +0100, a...@bflat.demon.co.uk wrote: I notice on the LilyPond page for the Mac that The text editor Smultron does not work properly under Snow Leopard. Which lilypond page is that? I think he

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Graham, thanks very much! It doesn't seem to be very easy for my, but I guess, I will be able to do it. 2009/9/25 Graham Breed gbr...@gmail.com Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Graham, absolutely, I would like to define a list of notenames, for e.g. pitches that are about 15cents lower, But I

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-25 Thread Hans Aberg
On 25 Sep 2009, at 07:11, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Joe, can you come up with a short description and a minimal example, so Valentin can add it to the tracker? Will do. Sorry for not replying earlier to your kind offer of help -- I'm going through a bit of a busy patch -- but will get to work

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Graham, what I don't understand: How many cents are an alteration of 10/1023? 2009/9/25 Graham Breed gbr...@gmail.com Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Graham, absolutely, I would like to define a list of notenames, for e.g. pitches that are about 15cents lower, But I have no idea how to do

tweaking ChordNames

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Hello fellow pond dwellers, 1) How can I tweak my ChordNames to print -is and -es as such, not as # and b? I.e. print fis as Fis and not F# 2) How can I set \germanChords globally, i.e. not within a ChordNames context? (I thought deutsch.ly would do that, but it doesn't.) Greetlings

slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Hi again, my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs. Is there a global setting for that? I know \autoBeamOn/Off (works only within a voice) and \override Slur #'stencil = ##f

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Graham Breed
Stefan Thomas wrote: what I don't understand: How many cents are an alteration of 10/1023? It's a fraction of 200 cents. So 200 * 10/1023 = 2000/1023 = 1.955... cents, which looks like a schisma. Graham ___ lilypond-user

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Stefan Thomas
Ok, I've understood this now. In the meantime, I tried to make my own microtone-uitchtable. But, unfortunately, it doesn't work. I always get the error message: stefansMikrotoene.ly:32:6: warning: Could not find glyph-name for alteration -162/247 I don't understand how to make use of the

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Hans Aberg
On 25 Sep 2009, at 14:44, Graham Breed wrote: what I don't understand: How many cents are an alteration of 10/1023? It's a fraction of 200 cents. So 200 * 10/1023 = 2000/1023 = 1.955... cents, which looks like a schisma. From my computations, it corresponds choosing an approximation in

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs. That is *not* modern practice... I would *strongly* recommend that you try to convince your editor to use modern practice (i.e.,

Re: Vertical Spacing

2009-09-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jonathan, How do I say: Hey Lilypond, use the following 'minimum-Y-extent for whatever system m. 2 ends up in. I think you'd have to put an invisible object with that Y-extent in m2. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2009-09-25 um 16:37 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 16:21:01 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi, my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs. That is *not*

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2009-09-25 um 16:21 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs. That is *not* modern practice... I would *strongly* recommend that you try to

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 16:21:01 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi, my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs. That is

Re: lyrics with syllables associated to notes

2009-09-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Simply use a phrasing slur instead of a slur, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Curves#Phrasing-slurs. /Mats Jatziri Valtierra wrote: Hi! I would like to do a melodic line with phrasing slur and use lyrics with syllables associated to notes inside the phrasing

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I don't understand how \override Slur #'stencil = ##f can solve any problems, since you have to insert the corresponding beams manually to get the correct melisma. Why not use your text editor to replace each ( by a [ and each ) by a ] ? This, combined with \autoBeamOff, will give the desired

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 6:31 AM, fiëé visuëlle fiee.visue...@gmx.net wrote: Hi again, my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs. Is there a global setting for that? To change the

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Reinhold, here in Europe, that is traditional notation Yes, it's traditional notation over here, too... ;) From the Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, pg 186: Beaming of notes associated with a lyric now follows standard notational practice. Traditional practice, now obsolete,

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, Sorry, no chance - this is common practice since Bach, and I as a seasoned choir leader yadda yadda... Wow... a closed-minded, backwards-thinking choral director. There's a first time for everything, I guess! ;) He's very much convinced that his standard is much easier to read All

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 8:39 AM, fiëé visuëlle fiee.visue...@gmx.net wrote: If I switched off slurs using \override Slur #'stencil = ##f how do I enable it again without warnings? \override Slur #'stencil = ##t does work, but issues an error (#t is no stencil) If you read the Internals Reference,

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 17:41:00 schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 9/25/09 8:39 AM, fiëé visuëlle fiee.visue...@gmx.net wrote: If I switched off slurs using \override Slur #'stencil = ##f how do I enable it again without warnings? \override

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 9:44 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 17:41:00 schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 9/25/09 8:39 AM, fiëé visuëlle fiee.visue...@gmx.net wrote: If I switched off slurs using \override Slur

A6-sheet

2009-09-25 Thread Jeroen Heijmans
Hi, I've been trying and trying. Removed settings, changed some, but I just can't get a good A6-sized sheet. These are my files: http://www.ff.fm/downloads/ptfm.ly http://www.ff.fm/downloads/ptfm.pdf It seems to me, I'm getting an A4 pdf. But the biggest problem is getting the staffs and

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Thank you all for the discussion and the good advice! I don't want to let my editor look like an evil stick-in-the-mud (or how do you say) - he's a real expert in German and European folk music, so maybe he's just only used to older songbooks... (And I agree, most folk songbooks that are

Re: A6-sheet

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2009-09-25 um 18:00 schrieb Jeroen Heijmans: I've been trying and trying. Removed settings, changed some, but I just can't get a good A6-sized sheet. Did you try #(set-default-paper-size a6) outside of everything (top-level)? Greetlings from Lake Constance --- fiëé visuëlle Henning

Re: A6-sheet

2009-09-25 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 18:00:16 schrieb Jeroen Heijmans: Removed settings, changed some, but I just can't get a good A6-sized sheet. These are my files: [...] It seems to me, I'm getting an A4 pdf. No, in the PDF viewer the page

Re: A6-sheet

2009-09-25 Thread Jeroen Heijmans
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 18:27, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 18:00:16 schrieb Jeroen Heijmans: Removed settings, changed some, but I just can't get a good A6-sized sheet. These are my files:

another route from MIDI to lilypond

2009-09-25 Thread Laura Conrad
I was frustrated only this week by the problems of getting a MIDI file into lilypond via midi2ly, so when I got a newsletter from Noteflight http://www.noteflight.com/ saying that they now have MIDI import, I did a quick test. It turns out to be fairly simple to import the MIDI file into

Re: A6-sheet

2009-09-25 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Hi, I've been trying and trying. Removed settings, changed some, but I just can't get a good A6-sized sheet. These are my files: http://www.ff.fm/downloads/ptfm.ly http://www.ff.fm/downloads/ptfm.pdf It seems to me, I'm getting an A4 pdf. But the biggest problem is getting the staffs and

Re: command-line usage - bus error

2009-09-25 Thread James E. Bailey
Can you run just lilypond? It may be a problem in the file. On 25.09.2009, at 10:32, Patrick Schmidt wrote: Dear Community, I get a bus error when I try to invoke 2.13.4.1 from the command- line (Mac OS X 10.4.11). I followed the guidelines in the manual Program Usage (section MacOS X on

Re: command-line usage - bus error

2009-09-25 Thread Patrick Schmidt
Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:30:53 +0200 Von: James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com An: Patrick Schmidt p.l.schm...@gmx.de CC: lilypond-user Mailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Re: command-line usage - bus error Can you run just lilypond? It

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message blu0-smtp35d912a8614bd537946e5194...@phx.gbl, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes Hi, Sorry, no chance - this is common practice since Bach, and I as a seasoned choir leader yadda yadda... Wow... a closed-minded, backwards-thinking choral director. There's a

Re: command-line usage - bus error

2009-09-25 Thread James E. Bailey
Well, similar enough, the instructions have you make a link to the lilypond binary, but I was more interested if just lilypond (without a file argument) worked. And if I understand correctly, you're saying that 2.13.4.1 doesn't work. Was that even a complete upload? Graham mentioned

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 10:15 AM, fiëé visuëlle fiee.visue...@gmx.net wrote: The reason why I didn't just use [] instead of () is that I didn't want to check and change the lyrics of all the songs that were already typeset. I guess I'll use that approach for the rest of the songbook. But the

Re: command-line usage - bus error

2009-09-25 Thread Patrick Schmidt
Well, similar enough, the instructions have you make a link to the lilypond binary, but I was more interested if just lilypond (without a file argument) worked. And if I understand correctly, you're saying that 2.13.4.1 doesn't work. Was that even a complete upload? Graham

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Community, I've already defined some microtonal pitchnames But, unfortunately I have problems with the correct spacing. Especially I don't understand why the distance between the barline and the cis is better if it is a whole note but not, if it is a quartenote. Here the snippet: \version

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2009-09-25 um 21:03 schrieb Carl Sorensen: The reason why I didn't just use [] instead of () is that I didn't want to check and change the lyrics of all the songs that were already typeset. I guess I'll use that approach for the rest of the songbook. But the documentation says that if

Re: command-line usage - bus error

2009-09-25 Thread James E. Bailey
Just to be sure, have you deleted the ~/.fontconfig, and ~/.fonts.cache* files (again) and (optionally) changed Font Book to store fonts on the computer, and not the user? That solved all of my font problems. Those font caches sometimes need a little help. On 25.09.2009, at 21:09, Patrick

Re: A6-sheet

2009-09-25 Thread Andrew Tucker
On Sep 25, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Jeroen Heijmans wrote: I've forced the evenly spread with 'system-count = 5' but, I think that's not the way to create small sheets(?). It's just something I can't really pinpoint. The staves need to be closer to eachother. Marchingsheet-music looks different than

Re: A6-sheet

2009-09-25 Thread Jeroen Heijmans
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 19:27, Jean-Charles Malahieude lily...@orange.fr wrote: Hi, I've been trying and trying. Removed settings, changed some, but I just can't get a good A6-sized sheet. These are my files: http://www.ff.fm/downloads/ptfm.ly http://www.ff.fm/downloads/ptfm.pdf It

Re: another route from MIDI to lilypond

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 01:13:29PM -0400, Laura Conrad wrote: I was frustrated only this week by the problems of getting a MIDI file into lilypond via midi2ly, so when I got a newsletter from Noteflight http://www.noteflight.com/ saying that they now have MIDI import, I did a quick test.

Re: A6-sheet

2009-09-25 Thread Jeroen Heijmans
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 22:28, Andrew Tucker m.andrew.tuc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Jeroen Heijmans wrote: I've forced the evenly spread with 'system-count = 5' but, I think that's not the way to create small sheets(?). It's just something I can't really pinpoint.

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread James E. Bailey
On 25.09.2009, at 22:17, fiëé visuëlle wrote: Just, pretty please: Could someone tell me how to get chord names with -is and -es (saying fis and not f#)? Or of course point me to the appropriate chapter of the docs. Section 2.7.2, Displaying chords under Customizing chord names James E.

Re: A6-sheet

2009-09-25 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 22:46:56 schrieb Jeroen Heijmans: You're all correct about the dimensions. Evince gives the same measurements (A6). But my print preview is on A4. I have to print with the options '4 pages on 1 page' to have the

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 2:17 PM, fiëé visuëlle fiee.visue...@gmx.net wrote: Just, pretty please: Could someone tell me how to get chord names with -is and -es (saying fis and not f#)? Or of course point me to the appropriate chapter of the docs. Here's a set of scheme routines that will allow you to

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Hans Aberg
On 25 Sep 2009, at 21:59, Stefan Thomas wrote: I've already defined some microtonal pitchnames But, unfortunately I have problems with the correct spacing. Especially I don't understand why the distance between the barline and the cis is better if it is a whole note but not, if it is a

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Daniel Hulme
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 07:36:21PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: For the record, does he also want you to use the old Novello backwards eighth-note rest for quarter rests? I mean, that was also the common practice since Bach — but people [wisely] decided that a *real* quarter rest is

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2009-09-25 um 22:54 schrieb James E. Bailey: Just, pretty please: Could someone tell me how to get chord names with -is and -es (saying fis and not f#)? Or of course point me to the appropriate chapter of the docs. Section 2.7.2, Displaying chords under Customizing chord names Of

Re: A6-sheet

2009-09-25 Thread Andrew Tucker
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Jeroen Heijmans wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 22:28, Andrew Tucker m.andrew.tuc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Jeroen Heijmans wrote: I've forced the evenly spread with 'system-count = 5' but, I think that's not the way to create small

dynamic marks vertical alignment

2009-09-25 Thread luis jure
hello list, apologies in advance if this is silly or obvious, but i've been away from lilypond for some time. i realized that by default lilypond puts dynamic marks aligned at the top, resulting in poor alignment of pianos and fortes. for example, this code: \relative c'{ d'2\fp d2\sfp d2\f

Re: another route from MIDI to lilypond

2009-09-25 Thread Villum Sejersen
Both of you ought to take a look at Jöerg Anders' NtED, which to my experience has good import/export facilities. Both the application and the source code (C++) look very impressive to me. http://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml -- yours, Villum Sejersen Nørregade 1 A

Re: another route from MIDI to lilypond

2009-09-25 Thread Laura Conrad
Villum == Villum Sejersen v...@privat.tdcadsl.dk writes: Villum Both of you ought to take a look at Jöerg Anders' NtED, Villum which to my experience has good import/export Villum facilities. Both the application and the source code (C++) Villum look very impressive to me. A

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 5:36 PM, fiëé visuëlle fiee.visue...@gmx.net wrote: Am 2009-09-25 um 22:54 schrieb James E. Bailey: Just, pretty please: Could someone tell me how to get chord names with -is and -es (saying fis and not f#)? Or of course point me to the appropriate chapter of the docs.

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-25 Thread Graham Breed
Stefan Thomas wrote: Ok, I've understood this now. In the meantime, I tried to make my own microtone-uitchtable. But, unfortunately, it doesn't work. I always get the error message: stefansMikrotoene.ly:32:6: warning: Could not find glyph-name for alteration -162/247 That says it's a