Re: Getting ridd of annoying changelation key sign

2006-11-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Please always include a small example that illustrates your problem. It takes extra time to try to figure out exactly what your problem is and what aspects are relevant. I hope you agree that in normal situations where you have a key change to C major, you need a key cancellation sign, even if

Re: Getting ridd of annoying changelation key sign

2006-11-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
anders stenberg wrote: ... ps. I have one other problem but on wich I did find a working if not an elegant solution. Some historical prints have a time signature wich consists of a mensural sign followed by a numeral. Fidling around with things i did find out that \cadenzaOn ... \once

Re: Numbering exercises; overriding defaults; points for clefs.

2006-11-29 Thread Christophe Dang Ngoc Chan
Nick Bailey wrote: My understanding was that the f dots are the vestiges of the two lines in the letter F... is that not the case? Hence the C clef and G clef wouldn't have them AFAIK, the dots are usefull when the music is handwritten: it is sometime difficult to read the exact position of

Re: # or not before a value

2006-11-29 Thread Christophe Dang Ngoc Chan
Thanks Matt ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Tutorial

2006-11-29 Thread Manuel
If I enter { c d e f g a b } as per instructions, part 2.1 of the tutorial, the result does not look at all like the tutorial says it should. The page numbers in the tutorial and those in the preview toolbar do not correspond: I have to type and enter 21 to get to page 12. Manuel

Re: Numbering exercises; overriding defaults; points for clefs.

2006-11-29 Thread Manuel
What does AFAIK stand for? Certainly, the dots make practical, besides systematical and didactical, sense in handwriting music; this in itself is a good reason to transfer their use to typeset music, which should reflect the way it is written by hand. Also, that music theory is at the

Re: Numbering exercises; overriding defaults; points for clefs.

2006-11-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
As far as I know, it stands for as far as I know. Regarding the typesetting practice, I often view handwriting as more or less clumsy attempts to imitate what is done in well typeset printed music, not the other way around. /Mats Manuel wrote: What does AFAIK stand for? Certainly, the

Re: Numbering exercises; overriding defaults; points for clefs.

2006-11-29 Thread Valentin Villenave
As a matter of fact, I've always written every C and F clef with two dots, and it is indeed very useful (since there are many C clefs, and two F clefs, but only one G clef in modern music). AFAIK : As Far As I Know IMHO : In My Humble Opinion (maye this should be integrated in lilypond docs

Re: Numbering exercises; overriding defaults; points for clefs.

2006-11-29 Thread Manuel
Am 29/11/2006 um 10:54 schrieb Mats Bengtsson: As far as I know, it stands for as far as I know. Regarding the typesetting practice, I often view handwriting as more or less clumsy attempts to imitate what is done in well typeset printed music, not the other way around. /Mats I take

Re: Page breaker question: obeying explicit \breaks

2006-11-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?UTF-8?Q?Trevor_Ba=C4=8Da?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes It just seems like, if ever there were global information in musical score, that that global information would include line- and page-breaking information. As it is, line- and page-breaking information

Re: Page breaker question: obeying explicit \breaks

2006-11-29 Thread Joe Neeman
On 11/29/06, Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The stuff I do is pretty much all setting parts. But I'd also like to combine those parts into scores. And, while I don't know how the new page breaking handles it, I have come across plenty of parts that have a page turn in the middle

Re: Music for the Martians?

2006-11-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arjan Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes When trying to be helpful and create a patch, I noticed that the development switched from CVS to GIT. Why? Now I have to find out what git is, how it works and how to get it. First try Fink as that's the semi-default package

Re: Page breaker question: obeying explicit \breaks

2006-11-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Either use a separate identifier like \mypagebreaks = {\skip 4*20 \pageBreak ...} or use the \tag feature. Note also that the page breaking algorithm in version 2.10 is much more clever than in previous versions, so it should automatically try to place page breaks when there is a long rest.

Re: Page breaker question: obeying explicit \breaks

2006-11-29 Thread Joe Neeman
On 11/29/06, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note also that the page breaking algorithm in version 2.10 is much more clever than in previous versions, so it should automatically try to place page breaks when there is a long rest. Actually this feature needs to be enabled manually (as

Re: Tutorial

2006-11-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
As it's indicated a few lines below, you should add \relative{...}, i.e. \relative{c d e f g a b c } to get the desired octave. /Mats Manuel wrote: If I enter { c d e f g a b } as per instructions, part 2.1 of the tutorial, the result does not look at all like the tutorial says it

Re: Numbering exercises; overriding defaults; points for clefs.

2006-11-29 Thread Arvid Grøtting
Manuel libros at limay.de writes: I take a different view on this matter. I think that painting was the first way of writing, letters being a later development. The first attempts to typesetting music were clumsy indeed, but even now, when typeset music is quite good, no printed score

Re: Page breaker question: obeying explicit \breaks

2006-11-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Either use a separate identifier like \mypagebreaks = {\skip 4*20 \pageBreak ...} or use the \tag feature. Note also that the page breaking algorithm in version 2.10 is much more clever than in previous versions, so it

custom keys and song repeats

2006-11-29 Thread Korcan Kayrak
Hi, I've been dealing with Lilypond for a couple of days and I loved it, perfect output and 100% control on the music.. I've questions that I could not find a solution in help documentations; - Can I customize the key? In Turkish Classical Music there are various keys and I cannot create

Slurs in multiple voices

2006-11-29 Thread Cris Kenton
Hello, I have the following code: { r4 fas si res4 si res fas4) | r4 fas si res4 res' fas si | } \\%% End upper voice { si,,2.( | res2. | }%% End lower voice I would like to connect the slur starting in the lower voice with

Re: Getting ridd of annoying changelation key sign

2006-11-29 Thread Laura Conrad
anders == anders stenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: anders I'm getting i to trouble when incipit and piece are in anders different keys. I got into enough trouble with enough things on incipits that I gave up on having them be part of the piece and set them separately. Then I use

Re: Scheme question on strict substitution

2006-11-29 Thread Trevor Bača
On 11/29/06, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, this doesn't work. What does work is \version 2.10.0 fraction = #(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?) #{ \tweak #'text #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text $music #}) This is exactly what I was

Opinions on tuplet number formatting defaults?

2006-11-29 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi, There are some rules about the interpretation of tuplet numbers that Lily doesn't seem to know about yet. Consider how players interpret these lone numbers inside a tuplet bracket: 3 interprets as 3:2 5 interprets as 5:4 6 interprets as 6:4 7 interprets as 7:4 (though there was confusion

Lilytool - using crescendo/descrescendo tags crashes with beanshelll error

2006-11-29 Thread ian_hulin
Apologies to the list if there's a separate place for reporting Lilypond Tool for JEdit Errors, but . . . Hi Bert, I selected a small area of music e.g. a4 b cs d and then used the Lilypond | Tags | Crescendo menu option in Jedit. This then crashes with a beanshell alert box stating] Parse

Re: Tutorial

2006-11-29 Thread James E. Bailey
I'm having some difficulty with the Metronome_Mark_engraver. I've successfully hidden it, but the notes are spaced around it so there's some odd spacing. I'm wondering it's possible to remove the metronome mark altogether. The code is here:

Re: Tutorial

2006-11-29 Thread Arvid Grøtting
James E. Bailey jamesebailey at mac.com writes: I'm having some difficulty with the Metronome_Mark_engraver. I've successfully hidden it, but the notes are spaced around it so there's some odd spacing. I'm wondering it's possible to remove the metronome mark altogether. Sure! In the

Articulations

2006-11-29 Thread Kress, Stephen
Hey, all. I was just trying to typeset some articulations and ran into a problem. The music I'm working on has notes with both an accent and staccato dot above but there's not a single '-' character to mark this with. I tried this... { fis--. } and { fis-.- } Both are accepted

Re: Numbering exercises; overriding defaults; points for clefs.

2006-11-29 Thread Trevor Bača
On 11/29/06, Arvid Grøtting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manuel libros at limay.de writes: I take a different view on this matter. I think that painting was the first way of writing, letters being a later development. The first attempts to typesetting music were clumsy indeed, but even now, when

Re: custom keys and song repeats

2006-11-29 Thread Trevor Bača
On 11/29/06, Korcan Kayrak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been dealing with Lilypond for a couple of days and I loved it, perfect output and 100% control on the music.. Welcome :-) I've questions that I could not find a solution in help documentations; Can I customize the key? In

Re: Opinions on tuplet number formatting defaults?

2006-11-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Trevor Bača escreveu: Anyone else see the sense in changing Lily's default formatting of TupletNumber text? Or much ado about nothing? sounds like a good idea, and not too difficult either. Patches are welcome. http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Han-Wen Nienhuys -

Re: Lilytool - using crescendo/descrescendo tags crashes with beanshelll error

2006-11-29 Thread Bertalan Fodor
LilyPondTool bugs are better placed at http://www.sf.net/projects/lily4jedit, to let me track them. Anyway, thanks for the report. Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

accordion symb.

2006-11-29 Thread Marcel van Campenhout
I'am trying to place a accordion symbol higher on the staff. When I use a raise command on the first symbol it goes up. fine. Now when I raise the dot it all comes down on the same level as before! I tryed using { } different places for the raise command but no sucses. Can anyone help me out

Re: Numbering exercises; overriding defaults; points for clefs.

2006-11-29 Thread Manuel
Am 29/11/2006 um 12:46 schrieb Arvid Grøtting: Manuel libros at limay.de writes: I take a different view on this matter. I think that painting was the first way of writing, letters being a later development. The first attempts to typesetting music were clumsy indeed, but even now, when

Re: Tutorial

2006-11-29 Thread Manuel
If I open a new, blank page and enter \relative{c d e f g a b c } the result is not what the tutorial says it would be, for it has a time signature and measure bars, which doesn't bother me, of course, but which are not there in the tutorial as the desired result. Manuel Am

Re: accordion symb.

2006-11-29 Thread Thies Albrecht
Hi Marcel! You don't write, what lily version you use... but have a look at the definitions to be found here: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=194 Using them you should be able to raise them as a whole... (I prefer the extra-offset by the way...) Kind regards, Thies Albrecht -- Ein Herz

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-29 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2006-11-28 um 08:56 schrieb Jean-marc LEGRAND: Statistically, I'll try Python and Scheme : these are the two most pointed out in your numerous replies ! And I have noticed that it is a good way to acquire programming good habits. So Santa Claus will have to find a good book on that !

Re: Multiple sections in ChoirStaff

2006-11-29 Thread Graham Percival
Geoff Horton wrote: When I need to make a score like that, I use the undocumented but still working \alignAboveContext command; it seems a little less confusing to me. Is this command slated to disappear, or does it need to be in the manual (I just checked and it still isn't there)? It's on

Re: PhrasingSlur-Slur conflict

2006-11-29 Thread Graham Percival
Sean Reed wrote: I'm getting extremely huge phrasing slurs now and again when the first note of the phrase is also a short normal slur within the phrasing slur. \version 2.11.0 { r16.[ f'32-. f'8-.] r4 c''32(\([ f') r8 f'32 f'] r8.[ a'16(] | f'8)[ r8] r8[ a'32 a'\) r16] r16.[ c''32(\( f'8)]

RE: Articulations

2006-11-29 Thread Kress, Stephen
What I was getting was the standard Windows program died dialog that allows you to Send or Don't send an error report. However, I just tried it again and now it's working. I'll keep an eye on it to see if it crops up again. I just love it when an OS gets temperamental. Would that I could

Re: Scheme question on strict substitution

2006-11-29 Thread stk
Hello, Does it work just to define this macro at the top level fraction = \tweak #'text #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text No, this doesn't work. OK, but I have a question. It is common to write such things as push = \once \override NoteColumn #'extra-X-extent = #'(0 .

Re: accordion symb.

2006-11-29 Thread Marcel van Campenhout
Thies Albrecht ta_lily at gmx.de writes: Hi Marcel! You don't write, what lily version you use... but have a look at the definitions to be found here: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=194 Using them you should be able to raise them as a whole... (I prefer the extra-offset by the

Re: Scheme question on strict substitution

2006-11-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Does it work just to define this macro at the top level fraction = \tweak #'text #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text No, this doesn't work. OK, but I have a question. It is common to write such things as push = \once

Re: Multiple sections in ChoirStaff

2006-11-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham, I clearly remember putting together a modified version (actually two versions) of the SATB example, using alignAboveContext and sending it to you during the summer. However, now I cannot find any traces of it, neither in the mailing list archives, nor in my outbox. Do you remember if you