Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-10 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi List, glad I'm not the only one with this use case! As I understand the situation it is a non-trivial matter to get properly implemented. My offer to sponsor this still holds (especially if it gets done in the next two months) but it seems no one with the necessary skills will implement it,

Digital Edition conference

2014-05-10 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, any LilyPonders or music LaTeXers in Berne or in a reasonable distance of it? I'm going to lobby LilyPond and LaTeX at a conference on Digital Edition and could use some argumentative assistance in the audience ;-)

Typesetting exercises with blank space

2014-05-10 Thread James Harkins
I want to create an exercise for some beginning composition students, where I will provide some short melody fragments sprinkled through a longer score. Most measures will be empty, but I want LilyPond to leave enough space for the students to write in their own notes. I looked in the notation

Re: Typesetting exercises with blank space

2014-05-10 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi James, here is how I normaly do it (you can of course wrap this into a definition called emptyBar and use rests if you need Midi ouput: \relative c' {c d e f \hideNotes c d e f \unHideNotes c d e f } -- Orm Am Samstag, den 10. Mai 2014 um 18:43:49 Uhr (+0800) schrieb James Harkins: I want

Re: Typesetting exercises with blank space

2014-05-10 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-05-10 12:43 GMT+02:00 James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com: - a setting to force a certain number of bars per system, or - an override to set the minimum measure width. Try : % \version 2.18.2 { \repeat unfold 3 { % set 3 measures per system :

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread rif
FWIW, I spent multiple hours in install hell trying to get a homebrew install of frescobaldi to work, with zero success. AFAICT homebrew doesn't really have forums or mailing lists? I might stick with emacs for now. rif On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:32 PM, rif r...@mit.edu wrote: And just to be

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, I'd be very willing to sponsor this, if there is a feasible solution within a reasonable amount of time. I paid Han-Wen to upgrade switchInstrument four or five years ago — I’m happy to sponsor more improvements! Best, Kieren. — Kieren MacMillan, composer www:

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread pls
Hi rif, you don’t (necessarily) need to install homebrew to get Frescobaldi to work. Davide Liessi provided a dmg-installer for Frescobaldi 2.0.16: https://www.dropbox.com/s/o4o65629jv9ytw4/Frescobaldi-2.0.16-dev-20140421.dmg See:

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread rif
Interesting. I am slowly learning that I should read the mailing list extensively rather than assume the lilypond docs themselves are up to date? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 6:14 AM, pls p.l.schm...@gmx.de wrote: Hi rif, you don’t (necessarily) need to install homebrew to get Frescobaldi to

Re: MIDI error compiling source

2014-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com writes: Thanks, that's the info I need. I'm typesetting for Mutopia and they use 2.18.2 and they don't want errors, but if there's no way to exclude the errors without moving to 2.19.2, I think they'll understand. The problem is that the MIDI will be bad

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi all, I'd be very willing to sponsor this, if there is a feasible solution within a reasonable amount of time. I paid Han-Wen to upgrade switchInstrument four or five years ago — I’m happy to sponsor more improvements! I'm thinking

Re: Transposing instruments in orchestra score

2014-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: You have to put the key information redundantly in each instrumentalist’s music. A better [i.e, more maintainable and “object-oriented”] approach is this: global = { \key a \minor s1*8 \key e \minor s1*4 \key c \major s1*10 }

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread Phil Holmes
Frescobaldi is not part of the LilyPond delivery, so why should it be covered in the LilyPond docs? -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: rif To: pls Cc: LilyPond Users Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread rif
Fair enough. Sorry to be cranky, I had a bad experience with the lilypond docs on emacs mode, and then Tim sent me to Frescobaldi, which I considered [perhaps entirely incorrectly] somewhat associated [because it is built on top of lilypond] and had an even worse experience there, with the

Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread rif
I see many references to this on the mailing list, but are these files anywhere standard? I grabbed an old jazz-chords.ly from some mailing list message, but then it didn't work when I included it, and it had no version number so I couldn't figure out how to convert it. What I actually want to

Re: Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread rif
Apparently I can get just say f:7.9- to get an F7b9. Hooray! Still wondering if there's a canonical place for pop-chords. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:06 AM, rif r...@mit.edu wrote: I see many references to this on the mailing list, but are these files anywhere standard? I grabbed an old

Re: Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 10, 2014, at 9:11 AM, rif r...@mit.edu wrote: Apparently I can get just say f:7.9- to get an F7b9. Hooray! Still wondering if there's a canonical place for pop-chords. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:06 AM, rif r...@mit.edu wrote: I see many references to this on the mailing list,

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I had a bad experience with the lilypond docs on emacs mode, [...] My usual reply to such rants: Please report the problems with the documentation to the mailing list (in case you haven't done so yet; I didn't follow the discussion close enough to remember) so that we can improve it! This is:

Re: MIDI error compiling source

2014-05-10 Thread Knute Snortum
Thanks David. Is there something about \skip that messes up the barline checks? I can't avoid barline warnings without removing the |. I can post a LilyPond file if that will help. Knute Snortum (via Gmail) On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:54 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Knute Snortum

Re: MIDI error compiling source

2014-05-10 Thread David Kastrup
Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com writes: Thanks David. Is there something about \skip that messes up the barline checks? I can't avoid barline warnings without removing the |. I can post a LilyPond file if that will help. Knute Snortum (via Gmail) On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:54 PM,

Re: Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread Knute Snortum
lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/ Also, if the LSR search isn't working the way you want: in Google: site:lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/ Knute Snortum (via Gmail) On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On May 10, 2014, at 9:11 AM, rif r...@mit.edu wrote: Apparently I can

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread rif
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: I had a bad experience with the lilypond docs on emacs mode, [...] My usual reply to such rants: Please report the problems with the documentation to the mailing list (in case you haven't done so yet; I didn't follow the

Re: Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread rif
Are you suggesting that the file pop-chords.ly can be obtained from the snippets repository? If so, I don't yet see how. Or are you just suggesting that the snippets repository contains many useful and interesting examples, in which case I agree completely? rif On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:42

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Please report the problems with the documentation to the mailing list (in case you haven't done so yet; I didn't follow the discussion close enough to remember) Werner, that was the first thing I did. Right here in this thread. In the very first message. Yep. It's the correct thing. Now

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
If you install from the source, the canonical way to compile and install emacs is to do the following [...] Oops! I mean `... to compile and install lilypond', of course. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread Knute Snortum
Well, the latter. But if you search for jazz chords you find a pretty good function. I haven't tried it, but I may soon as I have wanted to use LilyPond for transcribing jazz music and lead sheets. Knute Snortum (via Gmail) On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 9:47 AM, rif r...@mit.edu wrote: Are you

Re: Digital Edition conference

2014-05-10 Thread Colin Campbell
On 05/10/2014 03:05 AM, Urs Liska wrote: Hi all, any LilyPonders or music LaTeXers in Berne or in a reasonable distance of it? I'm going to lobby LilyPond and LaTeX at a conference on Digital Edition and could use some argumentative assistance in the audience ;-) As it happens, I've

Re:ADVOCACY Digital Edition conference

2014-05-10 Thread Colin Campbell
On 05/10/2014 02:36 PM, Colin Campbell wrote: As it happens, I've been invited to present a session on LilyPond at a symposium of church musicians in July, here in Edmonton. snip I'm also in the tentative early stages of setting up an engraving business, possibly supplemented with sales of

Re: Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread rif
Actually, I'm still not really finding what I want in the snippets repository. I don't see how I can [for instance] get a minor 7th chord symbol. I just want to say The chord here is F-7 [or Eb-6/9], without having to write out all the notes of the chord, which is what seems to happen in the

Re: Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread rif
I guess what I'm looking for is where the description of the chord language is. Trial and error and matching examples is telling me that f:7.m and ees:m.6.9 are useful, although ees.m69 seems to print a min 13th chord for reasons I don't yet grok. Is this syntax all laid out somewhere? I'm not

Re: Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread Simon Albrecht
But, of course, you'll find it documented in the Notation Reference: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/chord-notation and http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/common-chord-modifiers. Thus, following your examples, you write f1:m7 or ef1:6.9. Best regards,

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread rif
I'm a little confused how to file the bug or what I should say. Is the suggestion to use http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.bugs? Do I have to include something about not top posting? This is the right place for documentation bugs? rif On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:19

Re: Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread Knute Snortum
And if you specifically want the - to signify minor instead of m, try: Knute Snortum (via Gmail) On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.dewrote: But, of course, you’ll find it documented in the Notation Reference:

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread Tim McNamara
Oh, dear. Very sorry for what seemed no doubt like an entire school of red herring. There is an incantation to use for installing Frescobaldi via MacPorts (sudo port install lilypond) but not AFAIK Homebrew. Much, much easier is David L’s .dmg Frescobaldi package that has already been

Re: Canonical[ish] place to get pop-chords.ly or jazz-chords.ly? Also, chords advice?

2014-05-10 Thread Knute Snortum
Oops, one more time... Try \chords { c4:min f:min7 \set minorChordModifier = \markup { - } \break c4:min f:min7 } Something I do when I'm not sure what I'm looking for and I want to search all the documentation is i go to Google.com and enter: site:lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/

Re: Any advice for getting emacs working with lilypond on MacOsX?

2014-05-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I'm a little confused how to file the bug or what I should say. Is the suggestion to use http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.bugs? Aah, you are reading the lilypond mailing lists via gmane. Yes, I think the `bug-lilypond' mailing list gets mapped to