Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Jim Long
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:36:55AM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Melody + chords (tunes, e.g. Irish or old-timey) That's a lead sheet in my parlance. IMO, it would be useful to include an (optional) lyric context in the lead sheet stylesheet. Jim

Re: Double thin bar lines and repeats?

2015-01-19 Thread Jim Long
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 01:40:11AM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: To answer my own question: In repeat-acknowledge-engraver.cc is a comment and code: /* We only set the barline if we wouldn't overwrite a previously set barline. */ SCM wb = get_property (whichBar); SCM db =

Re: Staccato

2015-01-19 Thread Cynthia Karl
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 23:18:31 +0100 From: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de Subject: Re: Staccato Am 19.01.2015 um 20:29 schrieb Cynthia Karl: On Jan 19, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Ed Gordijn ed.klari...@gmail.com mailto:ed.klari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cynthia, Is there a way to get the second

Re: Staccato

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com wrote: You must have an intimate knowledge of LP source code to be able to say that. […] How would anyone know what \dotsDown does? 1. Search the contents of the application for “dotsDown” — find 4 results. 2. The one in

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Noeck
E.g., I would not use small caps for the voice names. More important, I would need German voice names. … and it is very well documented how to do that in those templates! I will have another look at them … ;) Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Joram (et al.), I would contribute my modest style sheets for choir works (SATB). It is mostly about distances (paper) and fonts – not really choir related. That’s what a stylesheet is, in my opinion. Templates are a whole different thing — which should be discussed in a different thread.

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.01.2015 um 00:15 schrieb Noeck: Hi Kieren, et al. I like you initiative and I would contribute my modest style sheets for choir works (SATB). It is mostly about distances (paper) and fonts – not really choir related. I think the OpenLilyLib snippets/stylesheets would be a good place to

Re: OT: Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Chord Chart” +1 the compact chord symbols have yet to make it into LilyPond I don’t think those (or any other) chord symbols should “make it into Lilypond” — instead, I think we should have stylesheets like stylesheets/chords/ChordNames.ily and

Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.17.2

2015-01-19 Thread tisimst
Thank you, Wilbert, for a fantastic program! - Abraham Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Wilbert Berendsen-6 [via Lilypond] ml-node+s1069038n170737...@n5.nabble.com wrote: Dear friends, Frescobaldi 2.17.2 has been released, with source code for Linux and any other

Re: Double thin bar lines and repeats?

2015-01-19 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-01-20 1:33 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com: 2015-01-20 0:43 GMT+01:00 Lars-Johan Liman lilyp...@liman.net: thomasmorle...@gmail.com: Try: \bar .|:-|| Thanks a bunch! That does indeed work. If you ever need a trick or two from the advanced DNS trick book, I'll be happy

ANN: Frescobaldi 2.17.2

2015-01-19 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Dear friends, Frescobaldi 2.17.2 has been released, with source code for Linux and any other platform, and packages for MS Windows and Mac OS X. Download via: http://frescobaldi.org/download . 2.17.2 fixes one annoying bug that could pop up when compiling a LilyPond file (AttributeError:

Re: Double thin bar lines and repeats?

2015-01-19 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
%{ From: Lars-Johan Liman lilyp...@liman.net Subject: Double thin bar lines and repeats? However, I'm trying to end a section of piano music with thin double bar lines, break the line, and then start the next line with repeat marks. I cannot make it work. Any hints? The trick is to define a

Re: Order of contexts over staves

2015-01-19 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Oups, you're wright, I should have added some explanation. Anyway, Keith's solution is so much better! I didn't take care enough before posting mine. Cheers, Pierre 2015-01-19 15:21 GMT+01:00 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: Very clever. Took me a while to work out what you're doing, but

Re: Double thin bar lines and repeats?

2015-01-19 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
thomasmorle...@gmail.com: Try: \bar .|:-|| Thanks a bunch! That does indeed work. If you ever need a trick or two from the advanced DNS trick book, I'll be happy to repay you ... :-) It's in the NR ;) I did find that part, but that is, however, not how I understood it. :-P Can you also

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Noeck
There is a built-in template almost exactly like this in LilyPond already which may be used to typeset a range of choral music, with or without accompaniment, in two or four staves. See http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/built_002din-templates That’s interesting and

Are these triple-dots of augmentation possible?

2015-01-19 Thread Graham King
Here's a little thing that has got me stumped. Is it possible to add three dots to a note glyph, thus: O:. to signify that the duration of the note is to be multiplied by 9/4 ? And can this be done in such a way (i) that the dots avoid clashing with staff lines, and (ii) that the note

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Noeck
Hi Kieren, et al. I like you initiative and I would contribute my modest style sheets for choir works (SATB). It is mostly about distances (paper) and fonts – not really choir related. I think the OpenLilyLib snippets/stylesheets would be a good place to collect them. (If Urs agrees – I am not

Re: Double thin bar lines and repeats?

2015-01-19 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-01-20 0:43 GMT+01:00 Lars-Johan Liman lilyp...@liman.net: thomasmorle...@gmail.com: Try: \bar .|:-|| Thanks a bunch! That does indeed work. If you ever need a trick or two from the advanced DNS trick book, I'll be happy to repay you ... :-) It's in the NR ;) I did find that part,

Re: Typesetting chord symbols

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, What’s happening with this issue? I would love to coordinate my efforts on the chord names stylesheets I’m putting together with whatever’s going on with regard to structural change(s). Thanks, Kieren. ___ Kieren MacMillan, composer www:

Re: Double thin bar lines and repeats?

2015-01-19 Thread Jim Long
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 06:26:38PM -0800, Jim Long wrote: That is, a closing volta barline which has no matching opening volta barline repeats either to the beginning of the piece, or to the nearest double barline, whichever is closer. My apologies for not describing that very definitively,

polyphony and bendAfter

2015-01-19 Thread Gagi Petrovic
Dear LilyPond group, Does anyone know how to correctly implement a bendAfter with polyphony? When i do e a,\bendAfter #1 c c LilyPond simply ignores the bendAfter. The following example works, but isn't a very efficient/elegant workaround. Besides, it's technically not correct either since

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 146, Issue 98

2015-01-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I dare say there is a prettier and more concise way of doing this, but at least I now have something that works! What about the following? #(define-public (pt-to-ss size) Convert from points to staff space units. ;; The value `output-scale' gives the size (in mm) of the staff ;;

Re: How to pack notes very tightly?

2015-01-19 Thread Steve Lacy
Thanks, Urs. Reading your code, seems like it was just a convenience function for setting SpacingSpanner.common-shortest-duration Adding a simple: \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'common-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) Got me to the density I was looking for.

How to pack notes very tightly?

2015-01-19 Thread Steve Lacy
I'm transcribing a Mendelssohn score, and am trying to get Lilypond to pack notes about as densely as they are in the original score. For example, trying to fit a snippet like this onto a single line: \version 2.16.2 \language english \relative c''' { \key e \minor \mark \default \time 2/2

Re: How to pack notes very tightly?

2015-01-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20. Januar 2015 07:47:20 MEZ, schrieb Steve Lacy sl...@slacy.com: I'm transcribing a Mendelssohn score, and am trying to get Lilypond to pack notes about as densely as they are in the original score. For example, trying to fit a snippet like this onto a single line: \version 2.16.2

Re: instrumentSwitch and addInstrumentDefinition use

2015-01-19 Thread Keith OHara
On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 21:09:07 -0800, Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com wrote: So I am saying that I would like any new features for instrument switching to suit my need to not always enter the notes in concert pitch. I don't really think that be a problem. Absolutely. There is a set of

Re: How to pack notes very tightly?

2015-01-19 Thread Urs Liska
Forwarding to bug-lilypond. Could someone please verify this and create a tracker entry? (It's not my code BTW) Am 20. Januar 2015 08:20:25 MEZ, schrieb Steve Lacy sl...@slacy.com: Thanks, Urs. Reading your code, seems like it was just a convenience function for setting

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 146, Issue 98

2015-01-19 Thread David Sumbler
From: Noeck [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Printing titles at a consistent size Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 23:57:09 +0100 Hi, if I am not mistaken, there was some discussion and a solution how to get the line space consistent for different

Double thin bar lines and repeats?

2015-01-19 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
Hi! I'm a long time TeX geek trying to wrap my head around Lilypond - with some, but limited, success. :-) However, I'm trying to end a section of piano music with thin double bar lines, break the line, and then start the next line with repeat marks. I cannot make it work. Any hints? Here's my

Re: Metronome vertival position after vertical space

2015-01-19 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello Pierre, This version with the empty tempo name is the one that fits my need best, since it’s easier to fine tune with offsets for every particular case. Thanks a lot! JM Le 14 janv. 2015 à 18:39, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com a écrit : Or even :

Re: Staccato

2015-01-19 Thread Noeck
Am 19.01.2015 um 20:29 schrieb Cynthia Karl: On Jan 19, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Ed Gordijn ed.klari...@gmail.com mailto:ed.klari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cynthia, Is there a way to get the second snippet to produce regular staccato dots? You van use \dotsDown or \dotsUp I confirm – as it has

Re: Double thin bar lines and repeats?

2015-01-19 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-01-19 22:10 GMT+01:00 Lars-Johan Liman lilyp...@liman.net: Hi! I'm a long time TeX geek trying to wrap my head around Lilypond - with some, but limited, success. :-) However, I'm trying to end a section of piano music with thin double bar lines, break the line, and then start the next

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread tisimst
Urs, et. al., On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:41 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] ml-node+s1069038n170689...@n5.nabble.com wrote: I think it would be easier to develop such a thing as a library, Is this effort all about creating stylesheets (i.e., customizing the look-and-feel of scores via

Re: Order of contexts over staves

2015-01-19 Thread Phil Holmes
Very clever. Took me a while to work out what you're doing, but you're essentially putting in a staff that is never shown, and then putting the ossia above that. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Pierre Perol-Schneider To: Keith OHara Cc: lilypond-user Sent:

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Johan Vromans
... I don't see any reason why a standard set of these can't be included in LilyPond itself for the user to access, but maybe that's more for something like Frescobaldi. I'm inclined to second this. ... but to be able to open an actual file with a lot of the structure already created,

Re: Printing titles at a consistent size

2015-01-19 Thread tisimst
David, On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:43 AM, David Sumbler [via Lilypond] ml-node+s1069038n170692...@n5.nabble.com wrote: From: Noeck [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Printing titles at a consistent size Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 23:57:09 +0100 Hi, if I am not

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.01.2015 um 14:25 schrieb tisimst: Urs, et. al., On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:41 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] [hidden email] /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=170693i=0 wrote: I think it would be easier to develop such a thing as a library, Is this effort all about creating

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Abraham, Is this effort all about creating stylesheets (i.e., customizing the look-and-feel of scores via \overrides, fonts, etc.) Yes. or templates (i.e., the structure of the scores)? No… but I could imagine that one beneficial side-effect of devevloping the stylesheets would be

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Henning, My templates contain a lot of commented lines with commands/tweaks that I sometimes use, so that I don’t need to look them up again. That might fit templates in Frescobaldi, but isn’t suitable for stylesheets that you just include without looking at them. To my mind, the

Re: instrumentSwitch and addInstrumentDefinition use

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, I certainly understand that as being the most common need. And apparently the one we officially recommend in the documentation. =) However I am not a composer. I am in the position of either adapting an existing book for younger players who may not be able to play all the

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs (et al.), I think it would be easier to develop such a thing as a library, as a work in progress. When including it into LilyPond it the stakes are quite high, and this might be a reason for never getting to that point … +1 I'd see the attitude towards reviewing contributions

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Martin, But before needing all kinds of includes for different kinds of scores: I think there is still enough room for improvement for the raw default LilyPond output - without needing extra include files. I agree 100%. One of the outputs of this effort, I hope, will be a consensus-built

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Christopher, Melody + chords (tunes, e.g. Irish or old-timey) That’s a “lead sheet” in my parlance. Instrument + piano (accompanied instrument solo) Good. This should be different (though not much so) from the piano+voice stylesheet. Cheers, Kieren. ___ Kieren

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, Anything with figured bass. Good call. I don't know if that should be a kind of plug-in solution or if it would need a complete set of style sheets. Either way, I would hope it wouldn’t be a lot of extra overhead. Thanks, Kieren. ___ Kieren MacMillan, composer

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jay (et al.), - solo instrument + solo instrument (solo part is cue staff) Cool. I assume the goal is mostly for setting sensible defaults for a specific type of score and less about building the structure. So you'd still need to manually build the scores and staves. Correct? Yes.

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Johan Vromans wrote Monday, January 19, 2015 1:55 PM In an earlier posting I mentioned a set of templates that I've developed and used for a couple of years. These do not work by changing the template code, but adding to it. This is much simpler to achieve. For example: +--- | \include

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.01.2015 um 04:41 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Urs (et al.), Maybe having it as a semi-official library would be more manageable? Sure… whatever works best! I think it would be easier to develop such a thing as a library, as a work in progress. When including it into LilyPond it the

Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.01.2015 um 04:44 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi all, I had been surprised not to find a template for the “lead sheets” I’ve been making. Yes! Let’s start making a list of the “big picture” targets: piano solo instrument solo/part orchestra score choir, a cappella

OT: Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-01-19 Thread Johan Vromans
On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 22:44:29 -0500 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: piano solo instrument solo/part orchestra score choir, a cappella choir plus piano piano + voice, art song piano + voice + guitar chords, popular chamber score (2-4

Re: Printing titles at a consistent size

2015-01-19 Thread David Sumbler
From: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Printing titles at a consistent size Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 23:57:09 +0100 Hi, if I am not mistaken, there was some discussion and a solution how to get the line space consistent for different settings of the staff

editionEngraver

2015-01-19 Thread Kevin Barry
Dear openlilylib people, I have read a few messages about this mysterious editionEngraver and I would like to try using it, but I am doing something wrong and I don't know what. I found the folder for it on github and tried to use it by downloading the three files there (definitions.ily,

Re: editionEngraver

2015-01-19 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Dear Kevin, thanks for this hint! There is an error in the description ... The editionEngraver is part of openLilyLib. To use it, you have to download the whole library and add the path to the list of include paths. Then you can \include editorial-tools/edition-engraver/definitions.ily and use

Changing Laissez Vibrer ties for chords

2015-01-19 Thread Knute Snortum
I'm using a Laissez Vibrer tie on a chord. It works fine, but I would like to change the shape. \shape works fine but for only one tie. How do I shape both ties? %%% -- Start \version 2.19.15 \language english \relative c, { \time 3/4 \key a \major \clef bass \shape #' ( (1 . 0) (2 .

Re: editionEngraver

2015-01-19 Thread Federico Bruni
2015-01-19 17:34 GMT+01:00 Kevin Barry barr...@gmail.com: Dear openlilylib people, I have read a few messages about this mysterious editionEngraver and I would like to try using it, but I am doing something wrong and I don't know what. I found the folder for it on github and tried to use it

Re: editionEngraver

2015-01-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19. Januar 2015 17:45:00 MEZ, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de: Dear Kevin, thanks for this hint! There is an error in the description ... The editionEngraver is part of openLilyLib. To use it, you have to download the whole library and add the path to the list of include paths. Then

Re: Staccato

2015-01-19 Thread Jay Anderson
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com wrote: Section 1.285 staccato of the 2.19.15 LilyPond Music Glossary says: Staccato is indicated by a dot above or below the note head. Gardner Read (Music Notation: A Manual of Modern Practice) agrees with this and has a

Re: Staccato

2015-01-19 Thread Ed Gordijn
Hi Cynthia, Is there a way to get the second snippet to produce regular staccato dots? You van use \dotsDown or \dotsUp Greetings, Ed ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Staccato

2015-01-19 Thread Cynthia Karl
On Jan 19, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Ed Gordijn ed.klari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cynthia, Is there a way to get the second snippet to produce regular staccato dots? You van use \dotsDown or \dotsUp Greetings, Ed It’s difficult to tell exactly what those commands do, but I don’t think

Re: Changing Laissez Vibrer ties for chords

2015-01-19 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Knute, On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using a Laissez Vibrer tie on a chord. It works fine, but I would like to change the shape. \shape works fine but for only one tie. How do I shape both ties? As with the ties in a TieColumn, \shape

Staccato

2015-01-19 Thread Cynthia Karl
Section 1.285 staccato of the 2.19.15 LilyPond Music Glossary says: Staccato is indicated by a dot above or below the note head. Gardner Read (Music Notation: A Manual of Modern Practice) agrees with this and has a little picture showing a stem-up note with a dot just beneath the note-head

RE: Staccato

2015-01-19 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Cynthia, The placement of the staccato, also fingerings, articulations, and dynamics, can be place above a note using ^ and below a note using _ in place of the -. Mark http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff