Re: book parts and page breaks

2015-03-15 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 15.03.2015 um 14:23 schrieb Francesco Petrogalli: Hi, is there a way to avoid page breaks when creating a new \bookpart? No, there isn’t. Actually, having a page break inbetween is most of the point of having multiple bookparts. What’s more, each bookpart may have its own \paper block,

Re: book parts and page breaks

2015-03-15 Thread Simon Albrecht
tonalità… \null } \score { etc. HTH, Simon I hope I made my point clear now, thanks for any help! Francesco On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de wrote: Am 15.03.2015 um 14:23 schrieb Francesco Petrogalli: Hi, is there a way to avoid page breaks when

Re: Enhancement: command line option to transpose N halftones up or down

2015-03-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Michael, I think this question is more appropriate for the -user list. Since I usually call lily from inside frescobaldi, my solution to this has been defining a variable for the resulting pitch: \version 2.18 newTonic = des music = \relative { c' } \score { \transpose c \newTonic

Re: Enhancement: command line option to transpose N halftones up or down

2015-03-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 16.03.2015 um 17:43 schrieb Michael Schuerig: On Monday 16 March 2015 11:26:30 David Nalesnik wrote: Am 16.03.2015 um 15:02 schrieb Michael Schuerig: I've only been using LilyPond for a rather short time, so far mostly for engraving short snippets transposed into several keys for

Re: Dynamics context vs. dynamics in staff

2015-03-17 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 17.03.2015 um 20:13 schrieb Noeck: Hi Kieren, thanks for your reply. I know this issue you linked and for sure a real solution would be best. I have a few follow-up questions: - Can you point me to the edition engraver? - How do you move dynamics? extra-offset or X/Y-offset? I ask

Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 09.03.2015 um 12:05 schrieb Peter Bjuhr: On 2015-03-09 11:41, Simon Albrecht wrote: Hello, for whatever reason I keep running into problems whenever I try to upgrade Frescobaldi (or install it on another machine). This time, I downloaded the .tar.gz bundles of both frescobaldi 2.18

Re: Please help

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
PS. Did you send the message three times or did it only arrive three times? Am 09.03.2015 um 14:40 schrieb magohq: Nothing has changed Key signature alternatives are still not on these lines. The fis in bass clef is on the 4th line,not on the fifth as the key treble. All the characters have to

Re: Please help

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 09.03.2015 um 14:40 schrieb magohq: Nothing has changed Key signature alternatives are still not on these lines. The fis in bass clef is on the 4th line,not on the fifth as the key treble. All the characters have to move down one line. OK, now I see your problem. You should always post

Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
Sorry, should have mentioned that this is on Ubuntu 14.10. Am 09.03.2015 um 10:22 schrieb Simon Albrecht: Hello, for whatever reason I keep running into problems whenever I try to upgrade Frescobaldi (or install it on another machine). This time, I downloaded the .tar.gz bundles of both

Re: Please help

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello anonymus, everything is alright with your code, except for one thing: the lines beginning with (at least one) ; must not be broken, since they are comments; they serve as explanations to any human reading the code, but the program ignores them. However, commenting out with ; only works

Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello, for whatever reason I keep running into problems whenever I try to upgrade Frescobaldi (or install it on another machine). This time, I downloaded the .tar.gz bundles of both frescobaldi 2.18 and python-ly 0.9.1 into ~/Frescobaldi/, unpacked them and installed them following the

Re: Fwd: Re: Dynamics negative Y-offset

2015-03-06 Thread Simon Albrecht
Typo there… Am 05.03.2015 um 17:12 schrieb Simon Albrecht: I assume it was an oversight that you didn’t include the list… This also shows that there is no link to any alignment changes, which happened earlier (around 2.10). 2.19.10 of course. Yours, Simon Weitergeleitete

Re: Produce a paper block from Scheme function

2015-03-06 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Urs, I don’t quite see your problem. I’m using such functions without. Since multiple \paper blocks are combined in a rather sensible way, there’s no problem with just having the function output an entire \paper block and use it on top level, regardless of any other \paper blocks (except

Re: Produce a paper block from Scheme function

2015-03-06 Thread Simon Albrecht
PS: Am 06.03.2015 um 17:32 schrieb Urs Liska: Hi all, I don't even know where to start with this, and looking around in the documentation doesn't get me started either. Considering multiple \paper blocks see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/the-paper-block. What would I

Re: rendered pdf files

2015-03-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Stephen, sounds interesting, but I don’t think there’s any way of judging this without any examples (code and output). Yours, Simon Am 24.03.2015 um 03:31 schrieb Stephen MacNeil: the files when i compiled on my linux box render a more compressed look then those on my friends

Scheme void function problems

2015-03-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello, I’m experimenting with an implementation of automatic tagline language selection and currently have two problems with the void function \language that I adapted from music-functions-init.ly: – I can’t get the first, optional argument to work; it needs to be explicitly given or Lily

Re: Creating new context: 3 Questions

2015-03-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Robert, I’m not really into the topic, but I have two remarks: Am 25.03.2015 um 14:50 schrieb Robert Schmaus: Hi Ponderers, I have tried a couple of times now but can't get this to work. Maybe someone sees my mistake ... [snip] So my first question is: why doesn't this work? My second

Re: Scheme void function problems

2015-03-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello, thanks a lot for your thoughts, David. Am 25.03.2015 um 16:33 schrieb David Nalesnik: Hi Simon, I can't judge whether this is getting closer to you want, but maybe my observations can help. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de mailto:simon.albre

Re: Implementation of \tuplet allow both incorrect and correct musical expressions

2015-03-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello, in general it’s helpful if you always include the list in the addressees, except for really private messages. You needn’t be afraid of increasing the traffic on ly-user. For example, someone else might comment on your question ending the first paragraph below. Yours, Simon Am

LSR – Colouring editorial annotations function

2015-03-30 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello everybody, I currently enjoy some fruits of continued delving into scheme: I had an exciting new idea for a utility function to conveniently override the colour of objects, as I use to do with editorial annotations, and it worked out excellently, so I’m happy to share

Re: parentheses

2015-03-30 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 31.03.2015 um 00:59 schrieb William Marchant: Thanks. I still have to learn a lot about Lilypond, and getting access to the LSR is just another thing for me. I take it that you don’t refer to the actual access on http://lsr.di.unimi.it/, which is simple :-) However, finding snippets can be

Re: placement of dot after notehead

2015-03-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Ming, here’s the best I could come up with. I remember that in hand-engraved scores, this is resolved by shifting the two notes further apart and placing the dots close to each one, which I now mimicked, albeit very poorly: the dot placement looks very odd now. Perhaps you’ll want to

Re: Note whiteout

2015-03-27 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 27.03.2015 um 05:28 schrieb Andrew Bernard: Well, answering my own question here. The following works, but now I feel the need to ask is the best way to do this sort of operation? Yes, I think so. Why wouldn’t layer = 3 or = 2 suffice for LedgerLineSpanner also? Yours, Simon \version

Re: Defining substitution functions

2015-03-29 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Timmy, the Lilypond Snippets Repository at lsr.di.unimi.it/ is where to search for such functions. In this case, e.g. http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=346 or http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=302. If you need help on customizing this, please ask the list again. HTH, Simon PS.

Re: Narrow down search of Lilypond documentation to English

2015-03-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 23.03.2015 um 02:10 schrieb Colin Tennyson: Colin Tennyson wrote: so anyone who wants to create Lilypond files has to master english anyway. Simon Albrecht wrote: You have to learn the English command names, indeed, but it’s by no means necessary to read the source code for creating any

Re: connect arpeggio down

2015-03-02 Thread Simon Albrecht
And, by the way: quite inconsistently, the bug list can be addressed by bug-lilyp...@gnu.org, not lilypond-bug. Am 02.03.2015 um 22:41 schrieb Simon Albrecht: Am 02.03.2015 um 21:42 schrieb Helge: Am Mon, 02 Mar 2015 12:16:17 +0100 schrieb Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de: upperHarpII

Re: connect arpeggio down

2015-03-02 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 02.03.2015 um 21:42 schrieb Helge: Am Mon, 02 Mar 2015 12:16:17 +0100 schrieb Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de: upperHarpII = \relative c'' { Or, as an override: \override PianoStaff.arpeggio.arpeggio-direction = #-1 This results in an error: warning: not a grob name, `arpeggio' So

Re: lyricWordEngraver enhancement proposal

2015-03-02 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 02.03.2015 um 23:59 schrieb David Nalesnik: Hi Simon, On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de mailto:simon.albre...@mail.de wrote: Hello David, hello list, upon proofreading my latest larger lily project I had an idea for enhancement of your

Re: connect arpeggio down

2015-03-02 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 02.03.2015 um 06:16 schrieb Helge Kruse: I have a problem with connecting arpeggio. The arrow of \arpeggioArrowDown or -Up vanishes when I connect the arpeggios of two staves. You can reproduce it with the example below. Comment out the connectArpeggios line and you see arrows. Is this a

Re: exercises book

2015-03-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Carlo, I don’t get what exactly is the problem you have. Normally you would have one score for each exercise, and each score has %\new ChordNames \chords \new StaffGroup \with { instrumentName = 647 } \new Staff \music \new TabStaff \music And normally lily will choose a perfectly

Re: Dynamics with Capitals

2015-03-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Stephen, you will find this documented at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes#dynamics and in the thereupon following section, New dynamic marks. However in brief: Usually, in the classical engraving style, which stood model for

Re: Ex Book (was: exercises book)

2015-03-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
Stephen, it is helpful if you basically retain the original subject, so mailing software will recognise as belonging to the thread. This increases comfort for the list subscribers. Re: etc. don’t matter, also sometimes it makes sense to change the subject and include the former one within

Fwd: Re: Dynamics negative Y-offset

2015-03-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
16:09:27 - Von:Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net An: Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de Narrowing this down a bit, the change occurred between 19.12 and 19.14, and the failure to tweak happens whether the tweak is applied via the function or directly: \score { { c'-\tweak Y-offset

Re: Fixed width measures

2015-03-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 05.03.2015 um 09:21 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 05.03.2015 um 08:34 schrieb Brian Barker: At 11:37 05/03/2015 +1100, Andrew Bernard wrote: I have asked this question on the list in the past, but no solution seems to be available. The topic is fixed width measures. I have contemporary music

Re: Fixed width measures

2015-03-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Andrew, I tried some things with some success: if there are only two bars per line and ther is no indent, the bars are _almost_ the same width. I don’t have any idea why this is imprecise, though. HTH, Simon P.S. I also did some reformatting to the code, which in my eyes much improves

Re: [OT] We need LilyPond office space...

2015-03-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 05.03.2015 um 08:27 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 5. März 2015 08:22:11 MEZ, schrieb Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de: See http://lilypondblog.org/2014/05/independent-meters/ ;-) One might redirect him there, but IIUC there have been fruitless attempts already to do so… Not really. I tried

Re: exercises book

2015-03-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 05.03.2015 um 00:00 schrieb Carlo Vanoni: Hi Simon, thanks for the answer. You’re very welcome. Well, your code helped me. In fact, my problem was that I was not sure I can create multiple \score {}. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/input-structure for more

Re: [OT] We need LilyPond office space...

2015-03-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
See http://lilypondblog.org/2014/05/independent-meters/ ;-) One might redirect him there, but IIUC there have been fruitless attempts already to do so… Best, Simon Am 05.03.2015 um 03:17 schrieb James Harkins: ... if only so that Brian Ferneyhough can visit:

Dynamics negative Y-offset

2015-03-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello everybody, in the attachment you’ll find an example for a function which I use to make dynamics slightly overlap with staff lines for saving space. It used to work up to 2.19.8, but now (tested with 2.19.15 and .16) negative values of Y-offset remain without effect inspite of

Re: staffSize music function unreliable at LP v2.19.16

2015-03-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
Well, there’s reason enough to redirect this to bug-lilypond, isn’t it? Somehow, Mozilla Thunderbird messes up the code examples, so I can’t do so well. Perhaps the OP’s and Harm’s first mails in the thread, respectively, should suffice for illustration. ~Simon Am 03.03.2015 um 23:01 schrieb

Re: staffSize music function unreliable at LP v2.19.16

2015-03-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello, a possible workaround would be to insert \layout { \context { \Voice \override Stem.neutral-direction = #'() \consists Melody_engraver } } It computes the stem direction for neutral-position (i.e. normally the center staff line) and here also the wrongly

Re: A measure with R1 and text

2015-03-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 01.03.2015 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Higgins: Text over a multi-measure rest is centered. Is there a more elegant solution to not center it then the one below? { R1 } \\ { s4^\markup \left-align text } . Easy: { R1-\tweak self-alignment-X -1 -text } In case you want to use an override: this

lyricWordEngraver enhancement proposal

2015-03-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello David, hello list, upon proofreading my latest larger lily project I had an idea for enhancement of your lyricWordEngraver: it would be very useful to have a \compressWord command, which is entered before a lyric syllable and then makes the following word be engraved as single string

Re: Bug in articulate.ly

2015-03-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 28.02.2015 um 20:11 schrieb H. S. Teoh: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 05:14:09PM -0800, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: [...] I've recently been using lilypond with articulate.ly to produce midi versions of pieces and have to say that, despite its limitations, I've been getting results that are

Ambitus placement

2015-02-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello together, I like to use the Ambitus_engraver in choral scores, but I often find it confusing to read, since the ambitus is printed before everything else, although its meaning depends on both clef and key signature. From the manuals or some snippet I took the idea to \set

Re: Ambitus placement

2015-02-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
\consists Ambitus_engraver } } } On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Kevin Barry barr...@gmail.com mailto:barr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de mailto:simon.albre...@mail.de wrote: Thus I’d like to place the ambitus

Re: Ambitus placement

2015-02-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
, schrieb Simon Albrecht: Thanks a lot, Kevin. That did it. I further modified it to avoid the programming error: No spacing entry from Item to `time-signature' and included the other entries present in the default, so it now reads as in the attachment. Best regards, Simon Am 23.02.2015 15:49

Re: Intel Mac OS X 10.8.5 - LilyPond Prefs

2015-02-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Peter, are you referring to Frescobaldi? Lilypond, being a command line program, doesn’t have a GUI nor any menus, in which entries could be greyed out… In case you do mean Frescobaldi, please send a report via the option provided in its Help menu. Yours, Simon Am 24.02.2015 um 19:02

Re: Intel Mac OS X 10.8.5 - LilyPond Prefs

2015-02-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 24.02.2015 um 20:09 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Simon, are you referring to Frescobaldi? Lilypond, being a command line program, doesn’t have a GUI nor any menus, in which entries could be greyed out… He’s talking about “Lilypad” (or whatever they call the minimal editor that comes

lyric-word regression

2015-02-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello David, (hello list,) unfortunately through some change between versions 2.19.8 and .15 your very useful lyric-word-compressor code ceased to work. It exits with an error stating that ‘value #grob_properties must be of type list’ (written from memory). Could you please help with this?

Re: lyric-word regression

2015-02-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
The usual mistake… and once again with attachment ;-) Am 25.02.2015 um 09:35 schrieb Simon Albrecht: Hello David, (hello list,) unfortunately through some change between versions 2.19.8 and .15 your very useful lyric-word-compressor code ceased to work. It exits with an error stating

Re: accent diminuendo

2015-03-27 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 27.03.2015 um 23:31 schrieb Stephen MacNeil: Thank you very much Simon It gave some great ideas. I do get error: bad grob property path (parent-alignment-X) accD = -\tweak self-alignment-X -1 \tweak parent-alignment-X -1 I think that's because I am using 2.18.2 Yes, this is a quite

Re: accent diminuendo

2015-03-27 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Stephen, how about the attached? I implemented it in two different ways: once as an articulation, once as a dynamic script. You also see the line-widths of my long-accent-markup and the default hairpin in comparison. HTH, Simon Am 27.03.2015 um 19:03 schrieb Stephen MacNeil: when

Re: Implementation of \tuplet allow both incorrect and correct musical expressions

2015-03-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
did not follow the Math Rule. Food for thought. - Original Message - *From:* Peter Bjuhr mailto:peterbj...@gmail.com *To:* Simon Albrecht mailto:simon.albre...@mail.de ; Ralph D. Jeffords mailto:ralph.d.jeffo...@cox.net ; lilypond-user mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: placement of dot after notehead

2015-03-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 26.03.2015 um 19:57 schrieb MING TSANG: Hi, Simon: Thank you, but I did not see the attachment. That’s probably because I forgot to attach it… Here you go :-) Immanuel, Ming On Thursday, March 26, 2015 1:30 PM, Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de wrote: Hello Ming, here’s the best

Re: Notes in voiceone corrupt voicethree after voice splitting?

2015-03-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 24.03.2015 um 21:15 schrieb st...@linuxsuite.org: Ok, I reduced the problem to one bar, and the black harmonics.. Everything works except the notes are changed in voicethree and voicesix to black harmonics. Well, basically you’re asking for it. \H is defined as

Re: Notes in voiceone corrupt voicethree after voice splitting?

2015-03-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 24.03.2015 um 19:39 schrieb st...@linuxsuite.org: Howdy! I have reduced a multivoice structure that is part of a composition to a simple five bar example of voice splitting. I need 4 voices, and then I need one voice to split. Each bar shows a different

Re: Problem with repeat alternative endings that contain lyrics and leading rests

2015-03-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 25.03.2015 um 10:01 schrieb Nathan Ho: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Peter Heisen writepeterhei...@gmail.com wrote: Dear List, The LilyPond notation reference, section 2.1.2, (http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/techniques-specific-to-lyrics) contains the following

Re: layout-set-staff-size: will it ever be fixed?

2015-03-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 23.03.2015 um 21:53 schrieb Nikolai Hedler: I see that this may have been worked on in 2.19 as Issue 216 https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=216can=1q=layout-set-staff-sizecolspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Stars%20Owner%20Patch%20Needs%20Summary; can someone update me as to the

Re: Cue notes included in ambitus

2015-03-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
I forwarded this to ly-bug. ~ Simon Am 23.03.2015 um 15:36 schrieb Patrick Karl: Consider the following snippet: \version 2.19.17 music = \relative c'' { \clef treble \new CueVoice { \set instrumentCueName = Bass } \cueDuringWithClef #Bass #DOWN #bassR1 g4 a b c }

Re: Function to add a drone staff?

2015-04-11 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 11.04.2015 um 21:04 schrieb Gilles: Hello. On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:19:31 -0700 (MST), Paul Morris wrote: Gilles Sadowski wrote It works but the sound is still cut after every bar: It looks like no tie was added to the last note of a bar. What is the advantage of using \makeOctaves wrt

Re: Hymns and justified lyrics

2015-04-13 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 13.04.2015 um 01:55 schrieb David B. Stocker: David, Thank you for this. This is exactly what I'm after. It seems like you're a Scheme guy. Is there a learning resource you would recommend to a very green beginner? I don’t know any basic tutorials for Scheme itself, but concerning Lily

scm: (apply and …) and alist problem

2015-04-13 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello, once more I have to come up with two scheme problems. I attached small examples. 1) Why can’t ‘apply’ be used with ‘and’ (defined-all.ly example file)? 2) Why does assoc-get return #f instead of a list in the second example file? Help is much appreciated. Yours, Simon \version

Re: mutopia's shortcomings

2015-04-20 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 20.04.2015 um 22:29 schrieb dl.mcnam...@comcast.net: In another thread, it seemed like common knowledge that Mutopia has some serious flaws. Could someone fill me on on what the (most important if there's a whole slew) problems are? I think it’s mainly three problems: – Lilypond versions,

Re: Paper size survey

2015-04-21 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 21.04.2015 um 14:44 schrieb Mattes: Am Dienstag, 21. April 2015 14:23 CEST, Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de schrieb: ... Yet I have taken inspiration from there to create the attached tool for making nice margins, which I’ve been using ever since. Hmm, maybe I miss the obvious

Re: What is the problem with \relative? (Was: Do we really offer the future?)

2015-04-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
Two small thoughts also from me: – I think the preference one will take also depends on musical style: a piece of renaissance vocal music uses so few leaps greater than a fourth that the advantage of relative in typing is huge and it’s ‘error-pronity’ small. On the other extreme, a piano

Re: Standard LilyPond score structure (Was: How do new users feel about LilyPond's documentation?)

2015-04-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 23.04.2015 um 09:38 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 23. April 2015 09:32:56 MESZ, schrieb Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de: Am 23.04.2015 um 04:39 schrieb H. S. Teoh: I even apply this structure to long rests -- instead of R1*50 (or however many bars it is), I break it up into groups under

Re: Paper size survey

2015-04-21 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 20.04.2015 um 08:45 schrieb Andrew Bernard: So Ponders, What size paper do you print scores on? I haven’t yet tried to use any other format than A4 (except for printing brochures on folded A3), although I learned from http://www.dante.de/tex/Dokumente/KohmSatzspiegel.pdf (only in German,

Re: Slur and tie

2015-04-21 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 21.04.2015 um 09:49 schrieb Noeck: Hi, is this correct? \relative c''' { a,,( e' b' c) ~ c( b a d,) } This was rather common in the 18th and 19th centuries I think and in tight vertical spacing it helps. How is it different from: \relative c''' { a,,( e' b' c ~ c b a d,) } That’s

Re: mutopia's shortcomings

2015-04-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 24.04.2015 um 12:43 schrieb Federico Bruni: 2015-04-21 1:07 GMT+02:00 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca mailto:kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca: Seems to me it has been quite successful in its goals of making sheet music easily available for free, all works in the public

Re: What is the problem with \relative? (Was: Do we really offer the future?)

2015-04-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 24.04.2015 um 00:58 schrieb Wols Lists: And then in English we get thoroughly confused, because an American whole note is an English semibreve or, literally, half note. And we don't use numbers either, we have semibreve, minim, crotchet, quaver, semiquaver, demisemiquaver, hemidemisemiquaver,

Re: Do we really offer the future?

2015-04-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 26.04.2015 um 18:10 schrieb Michael Hendry: On 26 Apr 2015, at 15:16, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx mailto:hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 06:15:13AM +, Keith OHara wrote: Michael Hendry hendry.michael at gmail.com http://gmail.com writes: I routinely put

Re: Creating LilyPond Object Models

2015-04-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
That’s really insightful. Thank you! Regards, Simon Am 26.04.2015 um 17:16 schrieb Paul Morris: Thanks Carl, Johannes, and David for working on this overview. On Apr 23, 2015, at 4:25 AM, Johannes Rohrer s...@johannesrohrer.de wrote: Translators selectively (based on assigned Event Classes)

Re: What is the problem with \relative? (Was: Do we really offer the future?)

2015-04-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 26.04.2015 um 14:37 schrieb Ali Cuota: Hello, If this is so easy for frescobaldi to have this converter relative2absolute, and so usefull to have input files in absolute, why not implant (implement) a commandline option to lily that would convert the relative blocks founds to absolute?

Re: odd behavior with acciaccatura in 1st position

2015-04-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 26.04.2015 um 03:44 schrieb Cynthia Karl: Message: 2 Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 10:09:13 +1000 From: Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: odd behavior with acciaccatura in 1st position Message-ID: etPan.553c2ca9.6b8b4567.185c@darkenergy.local

Re: Do we really offer the future?

2015-04-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 26.04.2015 um 23:53 schrieb Michael Hendry: On 26 Apr 2015, at 15:36, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx mailto:hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:23:26AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi, Am I the only one who puts bar checks at *both* the beginning and end of a

Re: Roman Numeral placement

2015-04-21 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello, this becomes much less cumbersome by using \transpose. Also I’d suggest splitting it into individual scores. And there were some code style issues here also – I attach a much cleaner version (attaching is preferrable since nothing may be messed up on the way). HTH, Simon Am

Re: Do we really offer the future?

2015-04-22 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 22.04.2015 um 17:48 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Pete, So major compositional changes -- the ones we're calling structural here -- are implemented at that first (gen.purp.prog.lang) level, tossing LP not much to trip over then or fail to carry through. My point, then: Why stuff a

Re: Roman Numeral placement

2015-04-21 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Harm, very impressive, but don’t you also think that it’s a little overkill to launch such big efforts on this small task? If it were on a larger scale, the automation would be more efficient, but with myself I observe that I tend to invest far more time into using as much automation as

Re: mutopia's shortcomings

2015-04-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 24.04.2015 um 16:35 schrieb Gilles: On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 10:01:29 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Simon, You forgot the quality of sheets: a (really) digital PDF will always look better than a scanned PDF. I think it depends: firstly, many IMSLP scores are on a level of typographical

Re: Bug tracker

2015-04-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 25.04.2015 um 11:56 schrieb Noeck: Hi, in reply to this mail: http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg100990.html I would have loved to comment in the bug tracker but if I understand it correctly, I have to have a google account. Is that right? And I don't want to. You might

Re: What is the problem with \relative? (Was: Do we really offer the future?)

2015-04-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 25.04.2015 um 00:38 schrieb Thomas Morley: Hi all, I'm a little late to the party... One very annoying thing about \relative is when you want to use music-functions catching some music doing something with it. Here the less complex function I could think of, returning different results for

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

2015-04-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
http://lilypond.org/website/tiny-examples.html hasn’t been referenced in this thread. Please follow the instructions there and send us a file typesetting just the one or two bars which contain the problem, in one file. Yours, Simon Am 25.04.2015 um 02:41 schrieb Anthonys Lists: On 25/04/2015

Re: odd behavior with acciaccatura in 1st position

2015-04-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 25.04.2015 um 04:47 schrieb MarcM: Having an acciaccatura or grace note as the first element of a score makes the key, tempo time print twice. A ‘classic’ bug, see https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=34. Insert \grace { s8 } (or whatever) in all the parallel expressions to

Re: odd behavior with acciaccatura in 1st position

2015-04-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 25.04.2015 um 13:52 schrieb Andrew Bernard: I don’t think you can do that in chordmode. Of course you can: chordNames = \chordmode { \global \acciaccatura s8 b1:m } It’s just the \global there adding the extra objects. Isn’t it? It does if the chord names and voice are going out of

Re: How do new users feel about LilyPond's documentation?

2015-04-22 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello, I recall that I was always thinking it would be best to have a person at hand, maybe even sharing a ‘bureau’, who could answer my question. Or attending a class, in which one would for example be guided in coding example scores, and receive immediate feedback. Later I realised that I

Re: Standard LilyPond score structure (Was: How do new users feel about LilyPond's documentation?)

2015-04-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 23.04.2015 um 04:39 schrieb H. S. Teoh: I even apply this structure to long rests -- instead of R1*50 (or however many bars it is), I break it up into groups under passage labels, and within each passage label groups of R1*4 or R1*8 or some multiple thereof, separated by blank lines. Just a

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 149, Issue 155

2015-04-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 22.04.2015 um 23:25 schrieb Flaming Hakama by Elaine: My problem is that too much of it is written like the following response from Elaine, which looks like Pprogrammers Only Need Apply. There is no getting around the fact that lilypond is a programming language. I don't

Re: How do new users feel about LilyPond's documentation?

2015-04-22 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 22.04.2015 um 23:19 schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 4/22/15 1:30 PM, Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl wrote: Stiil, I will try to give a sketch what happens to me again and again: I want to learn about how to change defaults and how to tweak default output so I open the Notation

Re: Roman Numeral placement

2015-04-22 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 22.04.2015 um 04:29 schrieb SonusProj .: Simon, I have several questions now that I have had a chance to review you code. 1) I wish to show the key for each staff line in lieu of showing all the accidentals relative to c. Is this possible with your current strategy? Sorry for overlooking

Limits of algorithmic typesetting (was: Re: mutopia's shortcomings)

2015-04-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
and affordable reprints of e.g. the Clavierübung volumes by Seb. Bach. :-) LK On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de mailto:simon.albre...@mail.de wrote: Am 24.04.2015 um 16:35 schrieb Gilles: On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 10:01:29 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote

Re: Fixing overlapping notation

2015-04-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Please give us (code, eventually output) examples, else it’s difficult to get your point. Yours, Simon Am 24.04.2015 um 18:09 schrieb Anthonys Lists: You can tell I've looked at the relevant section of the manual ... But I have two problems bugging me at the moment, and it's related to a

Re: Creating LilyPond Object Models

2015-04-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Carl, this is a good approach. Am I right in assuming that this is a boiled-down, low-threshold version of the relevant parts in Erik Sandberg’s masters thesis(1) referenced in CG 10.1? Yours, Simon (1) http://lilypond.org/website/pdf/thesis-erik-sandberg.pdf Am 23.04.2015 um 01:29

Re: Questions about the edition engraver

2015-04-28 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 28.04.2015 um 23:03 schrieb Noeck: 1. Can I use the same tweak at several points in time? Or do I have to add and \editionMod every time. In a recent list post (by Urs, I think) I saw an \editionModList command to do this. 2. What do the letters mean in edition.Staff.A? A numbering? How

Re: Anyone up for a Scheme code review?

2015-04-28 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 29.04.2015 um 00:40 schrieb Steven Weber: And apologies for the formatting. Scheme and I do not get along. Counting parens drives me crazy, so I format it like I do any other language that uses braces instead of parens (expect lots and lots of extra white space!) Here’s an excellent

Re: a proper whiteout function

2015-04-29 Thread Simon Albrecht
Another example: it’s currently impossible to whiteout LyricHyphen – which would be nice in combination with SpanBar. Yours, Simon Am 29.04.2015 um 02:44 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi, Forgive my ignorance, but could you just set the color of the grob to white? No: I want a black grob with

Re: Spoken text without

2015-05-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello everyone, I first thought of another one: switching between the lyrics modes with associated voice and without. But \set associatedVoice = ##f doesn’t do what I might’ve expected (see attachment). Does anybody know of a way to do this or should it be a feature request? Yours, Simon

Re: Spoken text without

2015-05-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Peter, it is possible to write lyrics with explicitly specified durations, which should also help in your case. I concocted an example (for the future, please always try and provide a small, compiling one yourself), which you find attached. HTH, Simon Am 03.05.2015 um 18:37 schrieb

Re: Upper and Lower slurs in \partCombine

2015-05-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
You might check out doubleSlurs in the docs. HTH, Simon Am 04.05.2015 um 17:49 schrieb David B. Stocker: Hello, The 2.18 manuals seem to indicate that simultaneous slurs are a no-no, but I thought I'd check here to see if anyone knows of a trick I haven't thought of. In my example, I

Re: Suggest a condensed old style or transitional font for lyrics?

2015-04-30 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 30.04.2015 um 20:57 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 30.04.2015 um 17:20 schrieb Joshua Nichols: I'm looking for something other than minion pro. ;-) It also needs to have serifs (if not clear by the indication in the subject). What do you all use (free or otherwise)? Well, apart from Minion

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