Re: also, lyric help

2009-02-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
James, you wrote Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:26 PM Of course I had to finish engraving a piece of music where I had to have 22 lyrics contexts because I couldn't figure a neat way of keeping the proper voice contexts alive in order to figure out a way to actually keep the voice contexts

Crash: Midi and Instrument_name_engraver in StaffGroup (was Re: TAB question -- frescobaldi tab support)

2009-02-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
This looks like a bug. An attempt to add the Instrument_name_engraver to a StaffGroup context *and* produce MIDI output causes a Crash under Vista. Doing either separately is fine. Here's a minimal example: \version 2.12.2 \score { \new StaffGroup \with { \consists Instrument_name_engraver

Re: Crash: Midi and Instrument_name_engraver in StaffGroup (was Re: TAB question -- frescobaldi tab support)

2009-02-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jonathan Kulp wrote Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:16 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: This looks like a bug. An attempt to add the Instrument_name_engraver to a StaffGroup context *and* produce MIDI output causes a Crash under Vista. Doing either separately is fine. Here's a minimal example

Re: Controlling slur shape across line breaks

2009-02-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ted Section 5.5.4 in the Notation Reference describes how to modify the shape of ties, slurs and phrasing slurs. It's a little tricky, but it's easy compared with modifying the two parts of a slur split over a line break! This is described in section 6.8 of the Notation Reference. You

Re: tablature bug?

2009-02-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Grammostola Rosea wrote Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:09 PM Grammostola Rosea wrote: Daniel Hulme wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:25:19PM +0100, Grammostola Rosea wrote: My default Debian lenny version, works ok. But how do I install the newest lilypond on Debian testing? When I

Re: lyrics and melody

2009-02-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Alberto Simões wrote Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:25 PM Grammostola Rosea wrote: hi, this melody: g4 a bes | es1( | es4) f, g a | d2 d and I want to add these lyrics: The fall - ing leaves_ drift by my win - dow, Probably you want: The fall- ing leaves drift by my win- dow

Re: help with: Cannot find voice

2009-02-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
It should work, unless you have no notes in \upperOne Trevor - Original Message - From: Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt To: lilypond lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: help with: Cannot find voice Hello I am trying to produce a SATB

Re: \transpose and \transposition combination error(?)

2009-02-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hmm. Not sure it's a bug. The \transpose command transposes all pitches within its scope, including the pitch in the \transposition command. You can compensate for this by using \transposition ees rather than \transposition bes in your example, but this seems a little confusing and rather

Re: \transpose and \transposition combination error(?)

2009-02-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Peter Chubb wrote Monday, February 23, 2009 2:23 AM Trevor == Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Trevor Hmm. Not sure it's a bug. The \transpose command transposes I think it is (and I reported it as one some time ago). I agree this is a bug now. It doesn't seem

Re: \transpose and \transposition combination error(?)

2009-02-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Anthony W. Youngman wrote In message 874oyl28nj.wl%pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au, Peter Chubb pet...@gelato.unsw.edu.au writes Trevor == Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Trevor Hmm. Not sure it's a bug. The \transpose command transposes I think it is (and I reported it as one

Re: Looking for proper beam grouping

2009-02-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl, you wrote Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:43 AM On 2/23/09 12:52 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: I have a piece of music in 3/4 which has bars like { d4. c8 b8. a16 } Lilypond groups the last three notes together, making it look like a 6/8 measure, but I want the c8 to be

Re: \transpose and \transposition combination error(?)

2009-02-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Peter Chubb wrote Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:28 AM Trevor == Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Trevor Producing the correct pitch in MIDI for transposing Trevor instruments being notated at pitch is certainly the principal Trevor use of \transposition. It's other use

Re: Frescobaldi 0.7.6 released

2009-02-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Wilbert Berendsen wrote Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:21 AM Op woensdag 25 februari 2009, schreef Stefan Thomas: I'm only missing a feature, that can change pitches enharmonically, e.g. convert a cis to des. Is it possible to write a plugin for this? Yes, this kind of operations is

Re: an LM update

2009-02-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
James We discussed this last October, and I agreed to make the change in 2.13, but then the suggestion was made (by Mats): Better yet, why can't the shorthand automatically do the right thing? i.e., {} \\ {} should be translated automagically into {} \new Voice {} I'd rather

Re: an LM update

2009-03-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Voice.keepAlive = ##t ? El 28.02.2009, a las 10:33, Trevor Daniels escribió: James We discussed this last October, and I agreed to make the change in 2.13, but then the suggestion was made (by Mats): Better yet, why can't the shorthand automatically do the right thing? i.e., {} \\ {} should

Re: glissando up from no note to a note

2009-03-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:10 AM Why not use an invisible grace note to start the glissando? Then, there's no need to fiddle with the timing: \transpose c c'{ \grace{ \hideNotes g,8\glissando \unHideNotes} c'4 c'4 c'4 r4 | \grace{\hideNotes c''8\glissando \unHideNotes}

Re: Line break and page fit do not work

2009-03-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Yes, it's possible. See the example Permitting line breaks within beamed tuplets in section 1.2.1 of the Notation Reference. Trevor - Original Message - From: urisala uris...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Re: Line break and page

Re: Line break and page fit do not work

2009-03-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Yes, it's possible. See the example Permitting line breaks within beamed tuplets in section 1.2.1 of the Notation Reference. Trevor - Original Message - From: urisala uris...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Re: Line break and page

Re: Looking for proper beam grouping

2009-03-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Maarten I've made some changes which should produce the correct beaming by default in this situation (along with quite a few more). They should take effect in the first 2.13 version to be released. Trevor - Original Message - From: Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl To: Lilypond

Re: Auto beaming in unmetered music

2009-03-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi The easiest way to do this is to set measureLength and beatLength explicitly (as you've begun to do), but for them to be effective you need to either a) revert any autoBeam settings that apply to the time signature in force (here the default 4/4), as explained in Notation Reference

Re: an LM update

2009-03-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
the changes and create a patch. The Contributor's Guide describes how to do it. I've gotten this far, and everything is fine. If I understand this correctly, you're proposing to make changes to the docs, rather than the code. Is that right? If so, you should submit your patch to Trevor

Re: Auto beaming in unmetered music

2009-03-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Message - From: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk To: Benedict Singer sing...@mac.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Auto beaming in unmetered music Hi The easiest way to do this is to set measureLength and beatLength explicitly (as you've

Re: auto-beaming

2009-03-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi This is almost but not quite possible. You have to use beam-ending rules to obtain different beaming for different note durations (rather than beat-grouping rules, which apply to all note durations). In 2.12 the beam-ending rules are ((end * * 2 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 1 4)) ((end

Re: auto-beaming

2009-03-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl D. Sorensenwrote Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:42 PM On 3/19/09 8:34 AM, Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote: Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 3/19/09 5:13 AM, Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote: Should we turn this into feature request to make the automatic

Re: Stem not quite correctly positioned on merged noteheads

2009-03-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Yes, I see the same with 2.12.1 on Vista and viewed with Adobe Reader 8.1.3. See attached. A minor bug, but a definite one for a program in which beautifully typeset music is the main objective. Valentin? Trevor - Original Message - From: Nick Payne njpa...@internode.on.net To:

Re: a minor doc error

2009-03-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thanks Jon - pushed to origin/master. Trevor - Original Message - From: Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com To: James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com Cc: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk; lilypond-user Mailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:54

Re: Trying to figure out a beat grouping

2009-03-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Cameron Horsburgh wrote Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:28 AM I'm having trouble trying to modify the automatic beaming for a piece I'm working on. This piece has many examples of this figure in 4/4 time: a8 a a a16 a I would like the beaming to be: a8[ a] a[ a16 a] ___ ___ | |

Re: shiftOn doing.. nothing?

2009-03-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
I believe shiftOn and friends only have an effect if there would otherwise be a collision of note heads. Maybe you are looking for the 'force-hshift property of NoteColumn? See Learning Manual 4.5.2, towards the bottom. Trevor - Original Message - From: Alberto Simões

Re: auto-beaming

2009-03-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
M Watts wrote Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:57 AM Mats Bengtsson wrote: Trevor Daniels wrote: Unfortunately, this will also subdivide 16th beams too. This is what I meant by not quite possible. You would need to turn subdivideBeams on and off as required. Should we turn this into feature

Re: Stem not quite correctly positioned on merged noteheads

2009-03-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:44 PM 2009/3/19 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk: Yes, I see the same with 2.12.1 on Vista and viewed with Adobe Reader 8.1.3. See attached. A minor bug, but a definite one for a program in which beautifully typeset music is the main

Re: Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty Monday, March 23, 2009 11:07 PM On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Cameron Horsburgh ca...@netcall.com.au wrote: I've also just noticed another thing: the figure a8 a16 a16 a8 a16 a6 is rendered a8[ a16 a16] a8[ a16 a6] which is my preferred option. In fact, I would prefer

Re: feathered midbeam direction change

2009-03-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil AFAIK the properties of beams are set at the moment the beam starts and can't be changed thereafter, so I don't think there's any way to make beams grow and contract in a single unit. One possible hack is to use two voices with the growing beam in one and the contracting beam in the other,

Re: How do you run/open Lilypond?

2009-03-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
I agree with all you suggest, Carl. How do we make this change? Trevor - Original Message - From: Carl D. Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl; Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com Cc: Jeb maestro...@comcast.net; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent:

Re: odd configure error

2009-03-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, March 27, 2009 2:11 PM On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 07:56:53AM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 3/27/09 7:24 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl wrote: Well, this is utterly ridiculous IMNSHO. I would suggest to * fix the main lilypond repo so

Re: Bug? Lines disappear with rhythmic staff

2009-03-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Peter Chubb wrote Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:44 AM That's right. I want no lines on the stave for the RhythmicStaff, but I do want lines for the Staff context, and no StaffGroup bracket. Peter Have you tried setting 'line-count of StaffSymbol to 0 rather than removing

Re: Looking for proper beam grouping

2009-03-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Anthony W. Youngman Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:50 PM In message 73a00026c6f3454c9cf5c090b12d0...@trevorlaptop, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes Carl, you wrote Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:43 AM On 2/23/09 12:52 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: I have a piece of music

Re: Looking for proper beam grouping

2009-03-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:12 AM On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 08:38:08PM +, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message 3cbf99092d5f4e77a0cae01edf7be...@trevorlaptop, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes You'll be pleased to know the revert will not be required at all

Re: download versie 2.12

2009-03-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:34 PM Op dinsdag 31-03-2009 om 19:37 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef Simon Dahlbacka: The unknown publisher warning sounds like OP is running Vista. The warning is due to the fact that the installer isn't authenticode signed. Getting a

Re: download versie 2.12

2009-03-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila wrote Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:37 PM 2009/3/31 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk: (...) You need a X.509 version 3 code-signing certificate to sign an application. See http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc962053.aspx For a full description of the process see

Re: Automatic beaming

2009-04-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Helge Kruse wrote Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:22 AM I write a piece with where are a lot of triplets in one variation. It looks nice to have the beaming in the same length as the triplets as it is done in the hand writing original. I found in the manual (1.2.4 Beams) that I can manually set

Re: Automatic beaming

2009-04-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
} } } Trevor - Original Message - From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net To: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Automatic beaming Trevor Daniels wrote: Helge Kruse wrote Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:22

Re: Avoiding slur collision with other voice

2009-04-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Helge The 'slurs' in the hand-written score look as if they are really triplet indicators, with the '3' omitted from the later ones. If so, I don't think Lily can do this very well automatically. The closest I can get is to make the tuplet brackets transparent and use slurs, as shown below.

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius

2009-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jay Anderson wrote Monday, April 06, 2009 2:50 AM On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: as long as I have anything to do with LilyPond, I will veto changes like this that introduce inconsistent whitespace handling in the syntax. Please come up with something

Re: lyrics and aftergrace

2009-04-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stefan I would not normally expect to see a separate syllable for one or both grace notes. The syllable sung on the note following, or in your case preceding, the grace note would be extended to cover the grace note(s) too. Is this not what you would expect? Trevor - Original Message

Re: TimeSignature with white border?

2009-04-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Snippet? Trevor - Original Message - From: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca To: Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com Cc: lilypond-user Mailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 4:25 AM Subject: Re: TimeSignature with white border? Mark, This one

Re: custom keysignature help

2009-04-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
James I've no idea what the problem is - the lines in error look correct to me. But are the last two lines in the log a clue? These point to lines 53 and 65. I suspect the error is there. Trevor - Original Message - From: James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com To:

Re: Beaming of 32nd notes in 3/4 time

2009-04-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Nick You will need to revert the default auto-beaming rules for 3/4 time to turn off the beaming every 8th note. You don't say what version you are using, and there are differences in the default auto-beaming rules. Look up revert-automatic-beam-setting in the index to the Notation

Re: LilyPond midi extension

2009-04-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Simon Thanks for this, but the text is not quite right. IIRC the default is .mid for Windows systems and .midi for all others. Could you please amend and resubmit to reflect this? It's also worth mentioning the equivalent command line option as Eluze suggested: would it be advisable to

Re: LilyPond midi extension

2009-04-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thanks Simon, pushed to git origin/master. Trevor - Original Message - From: Simon Bailey bina...@gmail.com To: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk Cc: lilypond-user Mailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: Re: LilyPond midi extension

Re: move lyrics closer

2009-04-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze There's a paragraph in section 5.5.1 which may (nor may not!) help. It says: All graphical objects have a reference point, a horizontal extent and a vertical extent. The horizontal extent is a pair of numbers giving the displacements from the reference point of the left and right

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:35 AM In an english context, the plural is simple: crescendoes. Ouch. I would use `crescendos'. To be pedantic, if crescendo is not a noun there is no plural, even in English. It should always be written as crescendo markings or

Re: Fingering multiple voices above the stave

2009-04-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Nick Payne wrote Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:10 PM I find the same thing happens with guitar fingering - that sometimes the order in which the fingering indications appear above the stave doesn't match the pitch order of the notes they are applied to. Do you have an example which shows this

Re: LilyPond midi extension

2009-04-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thanks Simon LGTM. Pushed to git origin/master, Editing docs is fun, isn't it ;) Trevor - Original Message - From: Simon Bailey bina...@gmail.com To: Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com Cc: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk; lilypond-user Mailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent

Re: relative position of tempo and rehearsal marks

2009-04-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Whoops, Sorry Simon. I'd replied to your earlier note before I saw this. Trevor - Original Message - From: Simon Bailey bina...@gmail.com To: Simon Bailey bina...@gmail.com Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: Re: relative position of

Re: music expression explanation

2009-04-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, April 24, 2009 4:42 PM On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 04:10:37PM +0200, Simon Bailey wrote: Graham Percival wrote: If you have an idea for a general clarification that the syntax is pitch duration other, then I'm all for it. If it's a simple you need to put the '

Re: music expression explanation

2009-04-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, April 25, 2009 12:53 PM On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:31:14PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Saturday, April 25, 2009 10:13 AM Eh?!?! You want to tell people to put articulation and dynamic marks after the duration, before they've been

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
From: Tim Rowe wrote Monday, May 11, 2009 12:29 AM 2009/5/10 Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se: This is explained in Sect. 3.2.3 Voices and vocals in the Learning Manual for LilyPond. I can't see anything relating to it there -- it was the first place I looked! Perhaps you don't

Re: Lyric problem when alternative begins with a rest

2009-05-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Tim Rowe wrote Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:18 AM 2009/5/14 Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com: In your lyrics definition, you're missing curly brackets around the alternatives: \alternative { so } { do } The { do } block isn't part of the \alternative block, so lilypond interprets the

Line lengths in NR [was Petrucci-like spacing?]

2009-05-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Monday, May 25, 2009 8:03 PM Henning Plumeyer wrote: \relative c'' { \key f \major g1*1/4 bes1*1/4 a1*1/4 g1*1/4 d'1.*1/6 c4 bes4 c1*1/4 } Hi, Carl, could you explain why this works? I would have expected that g1*1/4 is exactly the same as g4, but it is

Re: Line lengths in NR [was Petrucci-like spacing?]

2009-05-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Monday, May 25, 2009 11:43 PM On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 03:26:42PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: The lines in the html version of this section of the Notation Reference are significantly

Re: Line lengths in NR [was Petrucci-like spacing?]

2009-05-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:24 AM On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 07:51:22AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Patrick McCarty wrote Monday, May 25, 2009 11:43 PM On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 03:26:42PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani

Re: Four bars per line

2009-05-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
- Original Message - From: Kjetil Rossavik lilyp...@rossavik.co.uk To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: Re: Four bars per line -Eluze eluzew at gmail.com writes: Kjetil Rossavik wrote: How do I get Lilypond to lay out my music with 4 bars per

Re: [frogs] trailing spaces

2009-05-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:02 PM On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:41:17AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: I've looked again more closely at your original patch. The reason it fails to apply is that line 45 in the existing version of /input/lsr/non-default-tuplet-numbers.ly has

Re: Different colours in a single word

2009-06-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi This works fine for me. Are you including the title in a \header { ... } block? If you are, tell us what version of LilyPond you are using, what the error is, and post more of your .ly file so we can look for the problem. Trevor - Original Message - From: Jayaratna

Re: Different colours in a single word

2009-06-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
delete the %\include 04_fig.ly line, Lilypond starts giving errors from the next character. Thank you, Andrea Trevor Daniels wrote: Hi This works fine for me. Are you including the title in a \header { ... } block? If you are, tell us what version of LilyPond you are using, what the error

Re: Lilypond sensitivity to whitespace

2009-06-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Nick Payne wrote Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:55 PM Is there anywhere in the documentation that states where whitespace *is* required? I was getting a warning in my console output: warning: More alternatives than repeats. Junking excess alternatives, and I couldn't see what could be causing

Re: Are cross-staff beams and 'remove-empty *really* not compatible?

2009-06-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:21 AM Greetings, NR1.2.4 says: Known issues and warnings Automatically kneed cross-staff beams cannot be used together with hidden staves. Why? The following piece of code works well (and if you uncomment the last line, an ugly #76

Re: problem with beam-groups in 5/8 timeSignature

2009-06-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stefan Thomas wrote Monday, June 15, 2009 4:11 PM Dear community, I have a problem with different Beam-Gruops in different 5/8-bars. The first bar looks lke expected, the 2nd doesn't. How can I change the 2nd Bar to proper beam-groups of 3+2 8th-notes? Here the example: \version 2.13.0

Re: subdivideBeams broken?

2009-06-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hans SubdivideBeams will break beams at intervals defined by beatLength, which by default is set to 1 over the denominator of the time signature. I think you need to set beatLength explicitly with \set beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 8) HTH Trevor - Original Message - From: Hans

Re: subdivideBeams broken?

2009-06-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hans Aberg Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:48 PM On 21 Jun 2009, at 16:47, Trevor Daniels wrote: SubdivideBeams will break beams at intervals defined by beatLength, which by default is set to 1 over the denominator of the time signature. I think you need to set beatLength explicitly with \set

Re: Unicode chars in scheme?

2009-06-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Tao Cumplido wrote Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:10 AM what is the correct way of using scheme unicode chars in LilyPond? (display #\©) or (display #\u00a9) don't work (both do in DrScheme). It can't be the file encoding because (display ©) works. \char ##x00a9 See Notation Reference

Re: Header title problem or convert-ly problem

2009-06-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jay If you enter the name into Run the name of the program is convert-ly.py. Are you missing the .py? But both convert-ly and convert-ly.py should work in a Command Prompt window. At least they do here (Windows Vista). This is better than Run as the window stays open so you can read the

Re: Header title problem or convert-ly problem

2009-06-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze wrote Friday, June 26, 2009 5:47 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: If the path to the file contains spaces you'll need to surround the full path with double quotes. i just found that triple double quotes are needed: convert-ly.py -e my file.ly this works for me in windows vista That's

Re: Header title problem or convert-ly problem

2009-06-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Mats I've already made some changes - see git. More comments below. Trevor - Original Message - From: Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se To: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk Cc: -Eluze elu...@gmail.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:12 AM Subject

Re: Header title problem or convert-ly problem

2009-06-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze wrote Friday, June 26, 2009 7:19 PM Trevor Daniels wrote: maybe it should be added in the docs: I'll do that. I'll also fix the documentation to avoid misleading people in the Jay was misled. i think the whole issue comes from the two lines 279 280 in convert-ly.py

Re: Header title problem or convert-ly problem

2009-06-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze wrote Monday, June 29, 2009 12:19 AM Mats Bengtsson-4 wrote: There already is an example in the manual showing the use of *. I think that is probably sufficient. Yes, but it uses a for ... in ... do syntax that only works in BASH, there is a similar syntax in batch processing for

Re: Header title problem or convert-ly problem

2009-06-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze wrote Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:55 PM one more argument for the easy way to convert-ly 9'999 files (all with the same content): convert-ly -e typ2*.ly -- 36 sec. FOR %%x IN (typ1*.ly) DO convert-ly -e %%x -- 35 minutes btw i realized that

Re: new website: draft 3

2009-07-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham, Mats I agree the warning about incomplete bars is hard to find - I tried and couldn't until I searched git, and I wrote it! There is a section in the Learning Manual, section 5.2 When things don't work, which I intend to extend to include help about common errors, obscure error

Re: new website: draft 3

2009-07-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:27 AM On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 10:22:11AM +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Do you mean into the current LM 5.2 When thing's don't work or somewhere else? If you prefer to rename the FAQ (or rather the section on common mistakes of the FAQ) into

Re: good rendering of PDF

2009-07-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:42 AM From time to time, users complain that the display of lilypond PDF files with acroread or xpdf looks awkward on screen. In such cases, I strongly recommend to use ghostscript itself to view the PDF file, or a wrapper program like gv or

Re: removing naturals

2009-07-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Kieren MacMillan wrote Monday, July 06, 2009 3:50 PM Also, is there a way to increase the font size of the 8 in the treble_8 clef? Override the Clef stencil, and build the markup yourself -- I don't know any other way. See the docs (especially the LSR) for examples of overriding grob

Re: hurdles for contributors (was: help wanted, I mean it)

2009-07-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
it on a regular basis. But if there was a limited-time X-month project, I might do it again. Trevor Daniels might have an interesting opinion on this; he's another retired British windows user, who started off during GDP (and has said on multiple occasions that he would have never started contributing

Re: Reading the LM

2009-07-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jonathan Thanks for your comments. For the present you can continue sending them to this list. An editor can easily pick them from here. See below for my responses. Trevor - Original Message - From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, July

Re: hurdles for contributors (was: help wanted, I mean it)

2009-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:33 AM Hmm, maybe we could set up a pyramid scheme here. Trevor handles git for two new contributors, then in a few months, each of those people learn git and handles it for for two more new contributors, etc. :) Happy to do that - Mark is

Re: Tweaking ties in single staff polyphony

2009-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick Schmidt wrote Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:44 PM how can I tweak the form of a tie in one voice in order to avoid a collision of the tie with the notes of another voice of a single staff polyphony? I do not merely want to move the tie position but bend the tie to almost achieve a

Re: Tweaking ties in single staff polyphony

2009-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick, you wrote Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:27 PM thank you for the hint. It took me a while to find out that the commands have to be right in front of the note to which the tie is attached. Thanks for the feedback. I've clarified that point in the docs. Trevor

Re: Best name for function to create cross-style noteheads

2009-07-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Given the wide variation in the use of the x-shaped note head I think the only possible name to use is one that reflects the shape of the note head - crossNote, crossNoteHead or similar - rather than trying to find a suitable generic name which adequately covers all these disparate uses. Trevor

Re: Move only one markup at the same place

2009-07-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Friday, July 24, 2009 10:14 AM Alexander Kobel wrote: % Allow grob to go into the staff -\tweak #'outside-staff-priority #'() I would have never thought to set 'outside-staff-priority to '(). Is that in the docs somewhere? If not, we really need to put it there.

Re: Best name for function to create cross-style noteheads

2009-07-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hans Aberg wrote Friday, July 24, 2009 10:06 AM On 24 Jul 2009, at 07:58, Marc Hohl wrote: I think it would be the easiest way to define a neutral name first. Personally, I like the idea of \xHead, \xHeadOn and \xHeadOff. I think so, too. In computer lingo terms, you want define two

Re: Big Measures in Large Ensemble

2009-07-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
craigbakalian wrote Friday, July 24, 2009 11:58 PM I am writing a large ensemble work, a saxophone concerto. The first movement is in 8/4. It has got to be an 8/4 because I am constantly shifting the 3+3+2 to 3+2+3 and 2+3+3 quality of beat emphasis and phrasing. The sax has 16th notes,

Re: Best name for function to create cross-style noteheads

2009-07-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Friday, July 24, 2009 2:07 PM On 7/24/09 6:16 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: The structure of the Notation Reference is designed to accommodate documenting this. The specialist sections in NR 2 would contain an indexed description of all the uses

Re: Best name for function to create cross-style noteheads

2009-07-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:13 PM On 7/21/09 3:00 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Given the wide variation in the use of the x-shaped note head I think the only possible name to use is one that reflects the shape of the note head - crossNote, crossNoteHead

Re: Best name for function to create cross-style noteheads

2009-07-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Best name for function to create cross-style noteheads On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:18:42AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Carl Sorensen wrote Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:13 PM \crossHeadsOn : turns on cross noteheads for all

Re: First Lilypond Score

2009-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thanks Jonathan - pushed to remote/origin. Trevor - Original Message - From: Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: Re: First

Re: Aphex Twin DeathWaltz

2009-08-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Haipeng This score is a joke. It's an impossibly complex score with all sorts of ridiculous constructs and amusing articulations. For example,the header says Words and music by John Stump, arranged by Accident and there are textual instructions like Adagio cantabile with a rock tempo feel

Re: French accents

2009-08-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Norton wrote Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:06 PM PS I think it would be useful if the doc in Notation Reference 3.3.3 said something about how to obtain the unicodes (for users who are not using a UTF-8 supported edito)r. Done. I've added a uref to the Unicode Consortium at

Re: chord slides

2009-08-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick Schmidt wrote Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:50 PM I would like to achieve a chord slide. 1) How come that I can see the glissando marks when I use half notes but not when I use sixteenths? The glissando can often become so short it is invisible, as happens here. It's length can be

Re: don't understand slur control-points

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stefan It is tricky if you don't understand Bezier curves, but quite easy if messy once they are understood. Have you read Modifying ties and slurs in section 5.5.4 Modifying shapes in the Notation Reference? That gives some clues. It also helps to Google for Bezier curves. In the end though

Re: chord slides

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick Schmidt wrote Monday, August 03, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: chord slides thank you very much for your solution. I managed to achieve what I wanted without fully understanding of what's going on. Here's the code: \version 2.13.3 \relative c' { \new Staff \new Voice = visible {

Re: How do you move a note horizontally?

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Helge Kruse wrote Monday, August 03, 2009 12:21 PM Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Ok, trying it right now... --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: From: Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net Subject: RE: How do you move a note horizontally? To: 'Jonathan Wilkes'

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