solved; how to get system separator on both sides
Yes thank you that works. perhaps could be put in snippet respository?
On 2023-11-28 02:09, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
I don't think it's in a snippet, but you can do
\version "2.24.2"
\paper {
system-separator-markup = \markup \fill-line { \slashSeparator
\slashSeparator }
}
{ c' \break c' }
forgotten how to get system separator on both sides
Long ago I was an active user but it's gotten so far away that I use an older version 2.22.1 longer ago my conductor (at the time) wanted slash separators on both sides of the system that was for 1.16.x I think. But is this possible again? If so please either direct me to the snippet or page in the manuals. thanks Sam -- Thank you Sound & Silence 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ _www.soundand.com_
Re: clef bass_16
yes, thanks David answered with the '15' which I forgot to include as a thank you to the list. the slash was always part of the piece. thanks to all. j On 2023-06-22 17:11, Jakob Pedersen wrote: Hi j You need to use \clef "bass_15" to get it down another octave, not 16. That's a step too far. Best wishes, J On 23.06.2023 00.58, jh wrote: Hello- I can't seem to find the forum page to ask this, in fact so much has changed that perhaps I will not understand the answer. for Contrabass I have used \clef "bass_8" I need to go down another octave so I input \clef "bass_16" but the notation output prints a note one step higher than expected. example input g, and it's on the bass clef a space. what am I supposed to write? j -- Thank you Sound & Silence 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ _www.soundand.com [1]_ Links: -- [1] http://www.soundand.com
clef bass_16
Hello- I can't seem to find the forum page to ask this, in fact so much has changed that perhaps I will not understand the answer. for Contrabass I have used \clef "bass_8" I need to go down another octave so I input \clef "bass_16" but the notation output prints a note one step higher than expected. example input g, and it's on the bass clef a space. what am I supposed to write? j -- Thank you Sound & Silence 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ _www.soundand.com_
Re:Acciaccatura issue (jh) solved (sort of)
Turned out that the last partial 2 didn't 'take' and everything after that got very wacky. Changed it to \time 2/4 and then reverted to 4/4 and all is well. Thanks for the help, forcing me to see what didn't work. Odd that that partial doesn't work there and that all the others do. But for now so be it. j On 2022-07-16 09:49, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to lilypond-user@gnu.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org You can reach the person managing the list at lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Re-using "\with" contexts (Alasdair McAndrew) 2. Code pointer from end-BarLine to previous NoteHead.? (Thomas Morley) 3. Re: Code pointer from end-BarLine to previous NoteHead.? (Jean Abou Samra) 4. Acciaccatura issue (jh) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Acciaccatura question/issue
Unfortunately I don't think I can. I can post/send the entire thing
which will drive everyone hatefully crazy that's why I just took the
part that didn't do what I expected. The first measure is correct with
4 quarters in the bar the second one doesn't only 3 with the
acciaccatura. I use a lot of partials in this piece (or set of pieces)
and up to this point everything compiles as expected so if you have an
idea of how much of this to send great otherwise I'm stuck, because it
doesn't work in context of the whole.
Jay
BTW thank you for responding. And I'm happy to know that my ancient
understanding of the ornament is still current.
J
On 2022-07-15 17:38, Knute Snortum wrote:
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 3:34 PM jh wrote:
using 2.22.2 in fresco, my very old understanding of grace and
acciaccatura is that they receive no duration value in a measure.
That's correct.
the
following Minimal example using forget for accidentals when compiled
allows only 3 quarter notes in a 4/4 bar. I changed the 8ths in the
acciaccatura to 16ths in case that was the problem but that's not the
solution.
~
4^\markup {IX}
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes16 ges aes}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes'16 ges f}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {ges'16 f d}} bes>4\fermata\bar
"||"
d'8 f es16 ces bes8 aes ces bes16 ges f8 es4 ~ \bar
"||"
So what don't I understand?
Here's your code slightly modified so that it actually compiles:
\version "2.22.2"
\relative {
4^\markup {IX}
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes16 ges aes}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes'16 ges f}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {ges'16 f d}} 4\fermata\bar
"||"
d'8 f es16 ces bes8 aes ces bes16 ges f8 es4 ~ \bar "||"
}
I don't see any problem with this code and no errors are produced when
I compile it. Can't you post a minimal *working* example that
demonstrates the problem? (Working, as is "it will compile").
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Acciaccatura question/issue
using 2.22.2 in fresco, my very old understanding of grace and
acciaccatura is that they receive no duration value in a measure. the
following Minimal example using forget for accidentals when compiled
allows only 3 quarter notes in a 4/4 bar. I changed the 8ths in the
acciaccatura to 16ths in case that was the problem but that's not the
solution.
~
4^\markup {IX}
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes16 ges aes}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes'16 ges f}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {ges'16 f d}} 4\fermata\bar
"||"
d'8 f es16 ces bes8 aes ces bes16 ges f8 es4 ~ \bar
"||"
So what don't I understand?
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moving sustainoff - I lost the answer and can't remember how to search for it
Hello all- a while back I asked how to move the sustainoff to after the last note and someone answered and I believed I saved it and now cannot find where I put that answer. Please send it again.. AND- I think there's a way to search for something like this but I so seldom ever need to do this (not at all for the last 7 years) I have completely forgotten where to go for it. So that would be welcome too. Many apologies for misplacing this and having to ask again. Jay -- Thank you Sound & Silence Beginning May 1, 2021 a new address; 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ www.soundand.com and an online short (45 minute) concert of new material on Wayward in Limbo https://www.waywardmusic.org/?p=6082
inconsistent \RemoveEmptyStaves action
From one project to the next sometimes 'Frenching' a score works and
sometimes it doesn't
This is the shortest example I could figure out how to make
the second system should be just two staves (and using the same context
etc 5 days ago worked as expected on a different score so this was copy
pasted)
\version "2.22.1"
\header {
title = "Caucasus"
composer = "Jay Hamilton"
copyright = \markup { \tiny \override #'(baseline-skip . 0.5)
\center-column
{ "CC lic 2.5 some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 2022"
"see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.5/;
} }
}
#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)
#(set-default-paper-size "letter" )
#(set-global-staff-size 20)
upper = \relative c' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
\tempo "andante" 4 = 72
\numericTimeSignature
\accidentalStyle forget
\times 2/3 {g'8 d bes'}\times 2/3 {g d bes'}
\times 2/3 {g d bes'}\times 2/3 {g d bes'}
\times 2/3 {a d, c'} \times 2/3 {a d, c'}
\times 2/3 {a d, c'} \times 2/3 {a d, c'}\break
\times 2/3 {bes g d'} \times 2/3 {bes g d'}
\times 2/3 {bes g d'} \times 2/3 {bes g d'}
es16 bes ges bes es bes ges bes es bes ges bes es bes ges bes\break
}
lower = \relative c {
\clef bass
\key c \major
\numericTimeSignature
\accidentalStyle forget
bes'4 c d g,
\times 2/3 {a8 g fis} d4 \times 2/3 {c8 a c}\times 2/3 {fis g a}
\times 2/3 {bes8 a g}\times 2/3 {d bes d}\times 2/3 {fis g a} d4
es4 ges8 [d] c [bes] ges a ~
}
three = \relative c {
\clef bass
\key c \major
\numericTimeSignature
\accidentalStyle forget
R1*4
}
four = \relative c {
\clef "bass_8"
\key c \major
\numericTimeSignature
\accidentalStyle forget
R1*4
}
\score {
\context PianoStaff
<<
\context Staff = upper \upper
\context Staff = lower \lower
\context Staff = three \three
\context Staff = four \four
>>
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
}
}
\midi { }
}
Please point to my stupid errors.
thanks
J
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frenched score problem.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
disregard I found the problem
I finally saw that I'd deleted brackets on the center staff triplet. The log didn't say anything even fresco didn't help so sorry if you answered already -- Thank you Sound & Silence Beginning May 1, 2021 a new address; 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ www.soundand.com and an online short (45 minute) concert of new material on Wayward in Limbo https://www.waywardmusic.org/?p=6082
notes after triplet not aligning
I hope I'm sending this properly. This is as small as I could get and
there are at least three things I must be doing wrongCenter staff
the 3 is in a weird place but after the triplets notes aren't lining up.
If this is a dumb mistake on my part please point it out, if it's a
matter of looking at the manual please send me there
\version "2.22.0"
\header {
title = "Mt Olympus"
composer = "Jay Hamilton"
copyright = \markup { \tiny \override #'(baseline-skip . 0.5)
\center-column
{ "CC lic 2.5 some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 2022"
"see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.5/;
} }
}
#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)
#(set-default-paper-size "letter" )
#(set-global-staff-size 22)
\paper
{
indent = 15
short-indent = 15
right-margin = 30
top-margin = 15
bottom-margin = 15
}
upper =\relative c{
\key c \major
\time 4/4
%\omit Staff.TimeSignature
\accidentalStyle "forget"
\numericTimeSignature
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
\clef "treble_8"
\cadenzaOn
\times 2/3 {a'8 [a a]} a4 g f\fermata
\bar ""\break bes,2 \bar ";"
%line 2
}
two = \relative c {
\clef bass
\key c \major
\time 4/4
% \omit Staff.TimeSignature
\accidentalStyle "forget"
\numericTimeSignature
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
\stemUp
\times 2/3 8 [ ] 4
\acciaccatura {bes32 [es g]~} g4 c,\fermata r4 bes
%line 2
}
lower = \relative c {
\clef bass
\key c \major
\time 4/4
\accidentalStyle "forget"
\numericTimeSignature
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
\cadenzaOn
\times 2/3 {b!8 [b b]} b4 \times 2/3 {bes8 [es g]} a,4\fermata
r8 bes,4.
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff = "upper" \upper
\new Staff = "two" \two
\new Staff = "lower" \lower
>>
\layout { }
\midi { }
}
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Re: top/bottom margins?
yep that helped a lot. Thanks. j On 2021-12-29 15:34, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 12/29/21, 3:25 PM, "jh" wrote: very curious. So your example printed better than mine the footnote is very close to the edge and the top is very far down. So I opened librewriter cut the margins to .5 and filled the top and two lines of text at the bottom and there is no loss at the bottom and no extra space at the top. So this is a problem that is connected to the program more than the printer. The github links didn't inform me much as I am not that kind of tech person (as if you couldn't tell) and I have never used github and don't have an account. I think I'm asking "is there a way to manually set the margins in lilypond?" I think the issue is a Frescobaldi issue, not a LilyPond issue, as the links Federico shared point out. Instead of printing from Frescobaldi, try opening up the saved pdf file that is created by LilyPond and stored by Frescobaldi in the working directory. Open the pdf in some pdf viewer (evince is a Free pdf viewer) and try printing from the viewer. See if you still have the problem. HTH, Carl
Re: top/bottom margins?
very curious. So your example printed better than mine the footnote is very close to the edge and the top is very far down. So I opened librewriter cut the margins to .5 and filled the top and two lines of text at the bottom and there is no loss at the bottom and no extra space at the top. So this is a problem that is connected to the program more than the printer. The github links didn't inform me much as I am not that kind of tech person (as if you couldn't tell) and I have never used github and don't have an account. I think I'm asking "is there a way to manually set the margins in lilypond?" J btw I do appreciate the help, and attention to my issue. j On 2021-12-29 12:12, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 12/29/21, 12:09 PM, "jh" wrote: thanks- not sure what to do next the printer settings are as expected. will have to think some more about it I guess. J Here's the pdf I created. See if it prints for you. Carl
Re: top/bottom margins?
thanks- not sure what to do next the printer settings are as expected.
will have to think some more about it I guess.
j
On 2021-12-29 12:02, Carl Sorensen wrote:
I added a score to your file to make it pring something.
It generates a perfect PDF on my system. No extra space at the top or
bottom.
\version "2.22.0"
\header {
title = "24-5 Dec"
subtitle = "chaconne"
composer = "Jay Hamilton"
copyright = \markup { \tiny \override #'(baseline-skip . 0.5)
\center-column
{ "CC lic 2.5 some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 2021"
"see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.5/;
} }
}
#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)
#(set-default-paper-size "letter" )
#(set-global-staff-size 20)
\score{
{c'4}
}
Carl
Re: top/bottom margins?
attached is the header I use as you can see it is Letter.
Brian suggests that it's the printer and his test does suggest that it
is the printer; But no other pdf produced by other software has this
problem all the others (3) print with an expected top margin and bottom
margin.
So I'm stuck, I'd like to think there's a printer setting but since it
prints normally for everything except lily/fresco-pdfs that doesn't make
sense to me. If you can explain it then I'll look further.
thanks
J
On 2021-12-29 11:34, Carl Sorensen wrote:
On 12/29/21, 9:22 AM, "lilypond-user on behalf of jh"
wrote:
hello using 2.22 and current version of Frescobaldi. using
'letter' and
a new printer Canon
lately the top margin above the header has gotten wider and the
footnote
(2 lines smaller font) on the first page of scores is getting cut
off or
the bottom line is cut in half.
Is the easy solution to go smaller overall my default is 20 or is
there
a paper solution that would do this?
I expect that you are using A4, rather than letter, as your paper
definition.
Can you share a simple file that has the problem?
The Frescobaldi score wizard allows you to select letter as the paper
size. If you do nothing to specify a paper size, you will get A4.
HTH,
Carl \version "2.22.0"
\header {
title = "24-5 Dec"
subtitle = "chaconne"
composer = "Jay Hamilton"
copyright = \markup { \tiny \override #'(baseline-skip . 0.5)
\center-column
{ "CC lic 2.5 some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 2021"
"see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.5/;
} }
}
#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)
#(set-default-paper-size "letter" )
#(set-global-staff-size 20)
top/bottom margins?
hello using 2.22 and current version of Frescobaldi. using 'letter' and a new printer Canon lately the top margin above the header has gotten wider and the footnote (2 lines smaller font) on the first page of scores is getting cut off or the bottom line is cut in half. Is the easy solution to go smaller overall my default is 20 or is there a paper solution that would do this? thanks J -- Thank you Sound & Silence Beginning May 1, 2021 a new address; 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ www.soundand.com and an online short (45 minute) concert of new material on Wayward in Limbo https://www.waywardmusic.org/?p=6082
Re: slur crossing bar and time signature change; solved thanks
thanks to all for the quick responses and solution. I tend to find
where to put ties and slurs confusing (more confusing than my first
mistyping) so thank you to the addressed and to Brian
On 2021-12-24 13:40, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:
Hi,
Am 24.12.21 um 21:24 schrieb jh:
\time 5/8
\tempo 4 = 86
d8 e fis4 e8
d e4 d8 c\time 6/8
(b4) d8 b a4 \bar "|."
when I try to do this the slur does not connect between the c and b4
there is now a slur starting at the b4 and extends until there is
another slur over many measures.
Hope there is a solution or at least clarification.
Slurs are attached to notes (and entered after the note, hence
"post-events"). \time 6/8 is new music occuring at the same time as
b4, but you can't meaningfully attach a slur to a time signature
change.
The solution is simple: Attacht the opening slur to your note c, i.e.
c( \time 6/8 instead of c \time 6/8 (.
By the way, I'd recommend to put the \time 6/8 onto its own line:
\relative c' {
\time 5/8
\tempo 4 = 86
d8 e fis4 e8
d e4 d8 c(
\time 6/8
b4) d8 b a4
\bar "|."
}
Lukas
Re: slur crossing bar and time signature change
yes that did it thank you. On 2021-12-24 13:38, Brian Barker wrote: At 13:24 24/12/2021 -0700, you wrote: \time 5/8 \tempo 4 = 86 d8 e fis4 e8 d e4 d8 c\time 6/8 (b4) d8 b a4 \bar "|." The slur parentheses are postfixed to the appropriate elements. Instead of c\time 6/8 (b4) you need c( \time 6/8 b4) I trust this helps. Brian Barker - privately
Re: slur crossing bar and time signature change
yes of course i mistyped. Sorry here's kind of the minimal example 2.22 \time 5/8 \tempo 4 = 86 d8 e fis4 e8 d e4 d8 c\time 6/8 (b4) d8 b a4 \bar "|." when I try to do this the slur does not connect between the c and b4 there is now a slur starting at the b4 and extends until there is another slur over many measures. Hope there is a solution or at least clarification. thanks j On 2021-12-24 12:58, Leo Correia de Verdier wrote: Hi J! ~ is not a slur, it's a tie, so that could be the reason it is not working. https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/learning/ties-and-slurs If not, could you pleas post a minimal example for us to see what could be the issue? Slurs across barlines and time signatures are not normally a problem, so I suppose there is something strange in the code. Best! /Leo 24 dec. 2021 kl. 19:14 skrev jh : using 2.22 when I try to have a slur ~ across a barline and a time signature change using fresco nothing happens. please direct me to a place in the manual that explains how to have this work. thanks j -- Thank you Sound & Silence Beginning May 1, 2021 a new address; 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ www.soundand.com and an online short (45 minute) concert of new material on Wayward in Limbo https://www.waywardmusic.org/?p=6082
slur crossing bar and time signature change
using 2.22 when I try to have a slur ~ across a barline and a time signature change using fresco nothing happens. please direct me to a place in the manual that explains how to have this work. thanks j -- Thank you Sound & Silence Beginning May 1, 2021 a new address; 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ www.soundand.com and an online short (45 minute) concert of new material on Wayward in Limbo https://www.waywardmusic.org/?p=6082
Re: Windows Media Player alternatives for midi playing?
Hello- I use Synthfont- choose a default font and then after typesetting (if that's the word) my music click the .ly file for the latest update to the music and it does compile the midi and on I go. All of this is more complicated than it used to be in 2.18 but still works and is very very fast. Kenneth Rundt is the creator of this software and is really responsive to issues or questions you might have. jay On 2021-10-30 02:46, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to lilypond-user@gnu.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org You can reach the person managing the list at lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual. (Guy Stalnaker) 2. Re: Trying to get the hang of "Polyphony with Shared Lyrics" section of the manual. (Kevin Cole) 3. Windows Media Player alternatives for midi playing? (Pablo Cordal) 4. Re: Windows Media Player alternatives for midi playing? (Martín Rincón Botero) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I would like to move the sustainOff
Knute, thank you it's a short piece so this is doable would the bracket
be a better option for this problem when it's a larger/longer piece?
wondering.
Jay
On 2021-09-19 13:31, Knute Snortum wrote:
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:46 AM jh wrote:
2nd time to ask;
SustainOff after a chord comes before the chord, as it shows in the
manual
I'm used to and would like it to be after the chord.
Is there a way to do that?
You could do it with a tweak, but you'd have to do once for each
\sustainOff.
%%%
\version "2.22.1"
\relative {
c'1 \sustainOn | c \tweak X-offset 2 \sustainOff
}
%%%
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I would like to move the sustainOff
2nd time to ask; SustainOff after a chord comes before the chord, as it shows in the manual I'm used to and would like it to be after the chord. Is there a way to do that? jay -- Thank you Sound & Silence Beginning May 1, 2021 a new address; 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ www.soundand.com and an online short (45 minute) concert of new material on Wayward in Limbo https://www.waywardmusic.org/?p=6082 I am looking for 2-3 dancers various abilities/disciplines for a piece Called The Box it was scheduled for November but we know how that has gone. However I am interested in making videos of the moves and having dancers work on them and the music before we can get into the same room... Paid rehearsals and the door divided evenly by participants. Spread the word please.
Re: Midi Instrument: change?
1. Midi Instrument: change? (JxStarks)
2. Re: Midi Instrument: change? (Guy Stalnaker)
GuyS
I too wanted to know how to do this. Since I have limited experience
with the latest versions of lilypond due to total confusion of the new
syntax's. I did find this example you linked to and provided, before
this question came to the newsletter.. However without a minimal
example (which I did not find so if it's available somewhere a link
would be fine). So I'm pathetic but I could not see how this works.
J
See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/midi-channel-mapping
Where the method is shown. Basically, you put the instrument into the
Voice context:
%%% Code
\midi {
\context {
\Staff
\remove "Staff_performer"
}
\context {
\Voice
\consists "Staff_performer"
}
%%% Code
You'll see how it works. I do this all the time.
Regards,
GuyS
Re: simple question 1 where's the pdf for all the manuals for 2.22?
Thank you David etal, I've often been unable to find a tool to open/access tarballs? But I used a linux laptop and got in. I did find the quantity of material to be overwhelming and it took me a couple of days to find a way to just find the pdfs in that file but find them I did. Thank you for the help. jay
Re: simple question 1 where's the pdf for all the manuals for 2.22? a better response I hope more polite
Carl - that works fine for the notation but with 2.18 I have all the information in one huge pdf. This doesn't work at all with 2.22 the only pdf that seems available is the one you directed to me but going to the bottom of any other subject doesn't show a pdf and in fact there is a confusing line that says go back to the main page for docs. So the impolite question was 'really' but actually I'd rather actually have the pdf that I'm used to/need. This is not that. thanks for the help. Jay On 2021-08-02 17:15, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 8/2/21, 5:12 PM, "lilypond-user on behalf of jh" wrote: I can easily find the manual html page but the machine I use lily on is not online and so I depend on the PDf or have depended on it for 2.18 but there seems to be no link for the pdf on the manuals page? thank you As mentioned in the text on the bottom of the manuals page, click on the "details of notation" link to be able to download a pdf copy of the Notation Reference. Similarly for Usage and Internals. Here's a page that will let you download the Notation Reference. https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/web/notation Carl
simple question 1 where's the pdf for all the manuals for 2.22?
I can easily find the manual html page but the machine I use lily on is not online and so I depend on the PDf or have depended on it for 2.18 but there seems to be no link for the pdf on the manuals page? thank you -- Thank you Sound & Silence Beginning May 1, 2021 a new address; 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ www.soundand.com and an online short (45 minute) concert of new material on Wayward in Limbo https://www.waywardmusic.org/?p=6082 I am looking for 2-3 dancers various abilities/disciplines for a piece Called The Box it was scheduled for November but we know how that has gone. However I am interested in making videos of the moves and having dancers work on them and the music before we can get into the same room... Paid rehearsals and the door divided evenly by participants. Spread the word please.
Re: oldie/newbie convert/fresco question
Hello- Jean, I think you clarified a few things. 1] I don't need online connection, 2] that the Fresco button is merely a GUI, 3] you thought I was using a terminal which I am not so during the ongoing-forever attempt there was no error/message it just ran, 4] Fresco does update individual files to newest version but it does not change the format/layout that i am familiar with in 2.18 which is very confusing as all the latest examples of ly questions are totally foreign to me. This is the part that where you ask if documentation should be clearer is a problem. The changes of where information goes after 2.18 made/make little sense to me as the 2.18 ways worked for a very long time and to change them without any ability to understand the why of the change (sometimes that explanation was 'better coding' but since I am not a coder doesn't mean anything/is not an explanation that tells me the how or why; and perhaps means I am not to understand) and after years of using lily it felt like I was going to have to start completely over. Since 2.18 worked fine starting over seemed/seems not an option. I like many am a working composer. The time I spent learning (still learning) how to use the program to do what I wanted to do took a few years and as I say I am still learning to do it with the older version. To get work done after the pencil work at an instrument it always was more efficient to stay with what I knew, that worked, than to spend time unproductively relearning for the same result. I am going on too long but most of the questions I read about are very very technical and not in my range of needs. So again the urge to change is diminished. Thank you for clarifying the online not online question, I am fearful since I will be using the new version that I will not understand the why or even the how to layout lily that I will be back with absurdly simple questions but also hope this will not be the case. thanks Jay On 2021-08-01 10:28, Jean Abou Samra wrote: Hello Jay, Sorry for the previous message, obviously sent by accident! Le 01/08/2021 à 18:10, jh a écrit : A while back David K kept on trying to get me to update beyond 2.18.2 even though I said I'd failed a number of times and that many of the changes between these versions seem opaque to me. Well, what changes between 2.18 and 2.22 seem opaque to you? If some entries in the Changes document are not understandable by users, that should be fixed. My main text editor has developed a major crash where it freezes everything and the creator is unable to fix it. I have rarely used Frescobaldi because generally everything has worked but when stymied it has helped in the past to find my mistake. So I decided to default to it. Noticed that it has a convert ly tool tried it. Do note that the convert-ly tool is provided by LilyPond and thus dependent on the version of LilyPond. Frescobaldi merely gives you a GUI button to run it. You could also run it using the command line. The Application Usage manual explains how to do this. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/usage/invoking-convert_002dly This machine is generally not online; the convert tool ran for 4 hours and nothing changed. I gave in and went online and the tool does work. 1] it seems that this will not work if unconnected to the internet. My notation win10 is not connected for various reasons and just as I have had issues with updating versions to lily I have even connected to the internet am unable to update win10 which is fine- sort of. but 2] if convert ly requires internet connection I'm kind of stuck because win10 did not allow (or didn't tell me how to have two versions of lily on my machine. So I downloaded the current version uninstalled 2.18 and installed the current version 22.something. so Must I be online in order to access my thousand of pieces (my compositions) written in everything from 1.? and 2.18? to get this to work or is there more than another way? convert-ly ships with LilyPond with all conversion rules built in and does not access the Net in any way. The problem must be elsewhere. When you say that convert-ly hung, what did it print on the command line? I'm kind of hoping this is the right place to ask this as it is connected to Frescobaldi but seems to me to be a lily question. Yes, it is the right place. Best regards, Jean
oldie/newbie convert/fresco question
A while back David K kept on trying to get me to update beyond 2.18.2 even though I said I'd failed a number of times and that many of the changes between these versions seem opaque to me. My main text editor has developed a major crash where it freezes everything and the creator is unable to fix it. I have rarely used Frescobaldi because generally everything has worked but when stymied it has helped in the past to find my mistake. So I decided to default to it. Noticed that it has a convert ly tool tried it. This machine is generally not online; the convert tool ran for 4 hours and nothing changed. I gave in and went online and the tool does work. 1] it seems that this will not work if unconnected to the internet. My notation win10 is not connected for various reasons and just as I have had issues with updating versions to lily I have even connected to the internet am unable to update win10 which is fine- sort of. but 2] if convert ly requires internet connection I'm kind of stuck because win10 did not allow (or didn't tell me how to have two versions of lily on my machine. So I downloaded the current version uninstalled 2.18 and installed the current version 22.something. so Must I be online in order to access my thousand of pieces (my compositions) written in everything from 1.? and 2.18? to get this to work or is there more than another way? I'm kind of hoping this is the right place to ask this as it is connected to Frescobaldi but seems to me to be a lily question. Thanks Jay -- Thank you Sound & Silence Beginning May 1, 2021 a new address; 1814 Lake Washington Blvd. So., Seattle, Wa. 98144 _206-328-7694 or messages at 206-308-8189_ www.soundand.com and an online short (45 minute) concert of new material on Wayward in Limbo https://www.waywardmusic.org/?p=6082 I am looking for 2-3 dancers various abilities/disciplines for a piece Called The Box it was scheduled for November but we know how that has gone. However I am interested in making videos of the moves and having dancers work on them and the music before we can get into the same room... Paid rehearsals and the door divided evenly by participants. Spread the word please.
Re: would someone send me the link to
Thank you both, I didn't mention that it was a win10 machine now but mingw did the trick. On 2021-02-01 17:00, Thomas Morley wrote: Am Di., 2. Feb. 2021 um 00:53 Uhr schrieb jh : Hello- I'm afraid I'm going to get keelhauled for this. But is there a link/site where I can download 2.18.2 for win10. I've never understood after getting really comfortable with this version all the changes that make it to me incomprehensible and with a new computer (today) need to get lily onto this computer. I use the software daily, I like what it can do in this version, almost nothing the group needs or requests do I any longer need/ or understand (sometimes I've missed a method and ask but usually/daily do not). So if someone could kindly direct me to this old version I'd be very appreciative. Thanks Jay http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/mingw/ ? Cheers, Harm
would someone send me the link to
Hello- I'm afraid I'm going to get keelhauled for this. But is there a link/site where I can download 2.18.2 for win10. I've never understood after getting really comfortable with this version all the changes that make it to me incomprehensible and with a new computer (today) need to get lily onto this computer. I use the software daily, I like what it can do in this version, almost nothing the group needs or requests do I any longer need/ or understand (sometimes I've missed a method and ask but usually/daily do not). So if someone could kindly direct me to this old version I'd be very appreciative. Thanks Jay -- Thank you Sound & Silence POB 4833 Seattle, Wa 98194 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com I am looking for 2-3 dancers various abilities/disciplines for a piece Called The Box it was scheduled for November but we know how that has gone. However I am interested in making videos of the moves and having dancers work on them and the music before we can get into the same room... Paid rehearsals and the door divided evenly by participants. Spread the word please.
I hope this is on topic, pdf indications
Hello- I'm still using 2.18.2 And my PDF 'reader' is Sumatra. Until I did an upgrade of Sumatra when my cursor was hovering over a note there was information about where in the .ly file this note was. After the upgrade this no longer happens. What could be the disconnect between the two? I understand that if I used Fresco this would not be an issue (well it might be I'm not fond of the appearance of Fresco but use it infrequently to find an issue I can't find on my own) but between PSPad that I use to write .ly's and this pdf reader it worked fine and doesn't now. If you think it's the PSPad and that I should fall back to notepad+ or something tell me that or? this is a win7pro machine and very old (2007) if that's relevant. If this is a mystery to just live with telling me that would be helpful too. Jay -- Thank you Sound & Silence POB 4833 Seattle, Wa 98194 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com I am looking for 2-3 dancers various abilities/disciplines for a piece Called The Box it was scheduled for November but we know how that has gone. However I am interested in making videos of the moves and having dancers work on them and the music before we can get into the same room... Paid rehearsals and the door divided evenly by participants. Spread the word please.
Re: piece starting with acciaccatura problem
Thanks you, I thought I remembered that this had come up before but didn't remember a solution. THis is easy enough to execute. Thank you for the timely response. Jay On 2020-11-02 09:32, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: Hi, Am 02.11.20 um 17:18 schrieb jh: here's my small example of the problem I think it's been addressed before but have no idea how to find the solution. Please give me a link or clue to find how to defeat this. Jay That's LilyPond's most famous bug: If a piece starts with grace notes, they have to be in all voices (and of the same length). Otherwise, funny things of the sort you experienced will happen. So, add \grace s8. in the left hand right after \clef bass. (You can also try to insert it _before_ the \clef; the resulting change might make it clear what's going on here.) Lukas
piece starting with acciaccatura problem
here's my small example of the problem I think it's been addressed
before but have no idea how to find the solution. Please give me a link
or clue to find how to defeat this. Jay
\version "2.18.2"
\header {
title = "31 Oct Hallows"
composer = "Jay Hamilton"
copyright = \markup { \tiny \override #'(baseline-skip . 0.5)
\center-column
{ "CC lic 2.5 some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 2020"
"see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.5/;
} }
}
% }
#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)
#(set-default-paper-size "letter" )
#(set-global-staff-size 23)
\paper
{
ragged-bottom = ##f and
ragged-last-bottom = ##t
indent = 15
short-indent = 15
right-margin = 30
top-margin = 15
bottom-margin = 15
}
upper = \relative c'{
\key c \major
\time 4/4 \tempo "largo" 4 = 48
\accidentalStyle "forget"
\override Staff.TimeSignature #' style = #' ()
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
\override BreathingSign #'font-size = #5
% \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Voice1"
% \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"V-1"
\clef treble
\acciaccatura {es'32 d es8}
d8 c bes16 g8. c8 bes a c
}
melody = \relative c{
\key c \major
\time 4/4
\accidentalStyle "forget"
\override Staff.TimeSignature #' style = #' ()
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
\override BreathingSign #'font-size = #5
% \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Voice1"
% \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"V-1"
\clef bass
2
}
\score {<<
\new Staff \upper
\new Staff \melody
\layout {
\context {
\Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves
}
}
\midi {}
}
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Thank you Sound & Silence POB 4833 Seattle, Wa 98194 206-328-7694
www.soundand.com
I am looking for 2-3 dancers various abilities/disciplines for a piece
Called The Box it was scheduled for November but we know how that has
gone. However I am interested in making videos of the moves and having
dancers work on them and the music before we can get into the same
room... Paid rehearsals and the door divided evenly by participants.
Spread the word please.
31 Oct Hallows.pdf
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Re: about the html links
Done- thanks. I do remember feeling (a very long time ago like version 12?) overwhelmed by the number of emails received that's probably why I changed it, not understanding that it would cripple being able to access the links. So we proceed thanks again. Jay On 2020-10-03 08:40, David Wright wrote: On Sat 03 Oct 2020 at 07:06:55 (-0600), jh wrote: On 2020-10-02 21:20, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 02 Oct 2020 at 16:51:07 (-0600), jh wrote: > > > In general Lilypond has gotten so technical that I can't even follow > > the questions.however I use it (older version) and am generally > > pleased with what I can understand. > > However > > Often there are attachments that are 'scrubbed' and links at the > > bottom of questions and responses, and once upupon a time I had an > > inkling of how to access those but no longer and just clicking on them > > gives me 'bad gateway' messages. > > So how does one access those? > > It's useful when asking questions like this to say by which method > you're accessing the discussion. I'll assume that you're reading > the mailing list on gnu.org in text digest form. > > If that is so, then you need to visit > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > and click on [Unsubscribe or edit options] near the foot of the page. > Login on the page that appears, and then change your subscription > from Plain Text to MIME, about halfway down the page that appears. > You'll start receiving digests with each post and attachment as a > separate part of a multipart digest, instead of just running text. Thanks for this. I'm not doing what you assumed. I get the 'digest' via email and that is where I see the links at the end of many of the queries/responses. Sorry. I assumed you would understand that digests are intrinsically emails, designed for people whose systems struggle with large numbers of individual posts. It's been so long that I even went to the places you mention that I no longer have a record of logging in or password etc. You don't need it. I gave you the link, and I know that you can ascertain the email address that the digests are being sent to. I hope that this is the answer to the suggestion/question you raise. Perhaps it is not possible to access those links from the email? Time was when people communicated with list servers by means of commands that looked like an adventure game: pickup sword, kill giant, etc. Typically, you can still unsubscribe in that manner, but most interactions are nowadays done through a browser. So please visit the link and press the button. (Not a lot to ask.) Everything you need will then be available. I could do the first step for you, but the result might be misinterpreted as a phishing attempt, so I won't. Cheers, David.
Re: about the html links
Thanks for this. I'm not doing what you assumed. I get the 'digest' via email and that is where I see the links at the end of many of the queries/responses. It's been so long that I even went to the places you mention that I no longer have a record of logging in or password etc. I hope that this is the answer to the suggestion/question you raise. Perhaps it is not possible to access those links from the email? Jay On 2020-10-02 21:20, David Wright wrote: On Fri 02 Oct 2020 at 16:51:07 (-0600), jh wrote: In general Lilypond has gotten so technical that I can't even follow the questions.however I use it (older version) and am generally pleased with what I can understand. However Often there are attachments that are 'scrubbed' and links at the bottom of questions and responses, and once upupon a time I had an inkling of how to access those but no longer and just clicking on them gives me 'bad gateway' messages. So how does one access those? It's useful when asking questions like this to say by which method you're accessing the discussion. I'll assume that you're reading the mailing list on gnu.org in text digest form. If that is so, then you need to visit https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user and click on [Unsubscribe or edit options] near the foot of the page. Login on the page that appears, and then change your subscription from Plain Text to MIME, about halfway down the page that appears. You'll start receiving digests with each post and attachment as a separate part of a multipart digest, instead of just running text. Cheers, David.
about the html links
Hello- In general Lilypond has gotten so technical that I can't even follow the questions.however I use it (older version) and am generally pleased with what I can understand. However Often there are attachments that are 'scrubbed' and links at the bottom of questions and responses, and once upupon a time I had an inkling of how to access those but no longer and just clicking on them gives me 'bad gateway' messages. So how does one access those? THanks Jay -- Thank you Sound & Silence POB 4833 Seattle, Wa 98194 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com I am looking for 2-3 dancers various abilities/disciplines for a piece Called The Box it was scheduled for November but we know how that has gone. However I am interested in making videos of the moves and having dancers work on them and the music before we can get into the same room... Paid rehearsals and the door divided evenly by participants. Spread the word please.
Lead sheet with variables
I tried to modify the Lead Sheet example by using a variable:---\version "2.19.40"\music = \relative c'' { a4 e c8 e r4 b2 c4( d) }\score {<< \chords { c2 g:sus4 f e } \music \addlyrics { One day this shall be free __ } \layout { }}=and I got the following errors:--- Procesando «/Users/josephaustin/lilypond/scripts/TEST/leadSheet07.ly»Analizando.../Users/josephaustin/lilypond/scripts/TEST/leadSheet07.ly:3:1: error: cadena de escape desconocida: `\music'\music = \relative c'' {Interpretando la música...Preprocesando los objetos gráficos...Buscando el número de páginas ideal...Disponiendo la música en una página...Dibujando los sistemas...Salida de la página hacia «/var/folders/8c/krjhl46n5fq3wxbl0nvlfy6mgn/T//lilypond-M7rF1a»...Convirtiendo en «leadSheet07.pdf»...Suprimiendo «/var/folders/8c/krjhl46n5fq3wxbl0nvlfy6mgn/T//lilypond-M7rF1a»...error fatal: archivos que han fallado: "/Users/josephaustin/lilypond/scripts/TEST/leadSheet07.ly"=My questions:1. what did I do wrong?2. Can I get the error messages in English?
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