Re: Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time
Hi Stanton,
I’m setting various short organ pieces from an old Peters edition,
mostly to prevent my aging brain from forgetting…
One piece is in 8/4 time -the first measure has a whole note and 2
half notes. However, the time signature as printed is the cut time
symbol. How can I reproduce this? I’m using Lilypond 2.25.11.
The solutions given so far seem to be more complicated than necessary, I
think.
\relative c' {
\time 4/2
\set Timing.timeSignatureFraction = 2/2
c4 d e f g a b c d
}
Lukas
Re: Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time
David, Thank you. That is exactly what I was looking for. William, thank you for the helpful explanation of the somewhat archaic use of the cut time sign. And David, again thank you for your responses. -Stan > On Jan 11, 2024, at 9:20 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 11 Jan 2024 at 20:11:54 (-0600), Stanton Sanderson wrote: >> >> Thank you for the suggestion, but as stated previously, I’m trying to >> reproduce the original from the Peters edition. The problem, as you point >> out, is that the cut C is used in the original. Whether 8/4 or 4/2 (and I >> agree that 4/2 is the most reasonable time signature), I was looking for a >> way of declaring the cut C. >> >> The included photo is from the piece (# 67. Vater Unser in Himmelreich by >> Johann Kyieger, from _80 Choral Preludes_, Edition Peters, No. 4440, >> Copyright 1947). I think I purchased it some time around 1959. > > You can override the glyph, as attached. > > Cheers, > David. > <42.ly><42.pdf>
Re: Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time
On Thu 11 Jan 2024 at 20:11:54 (-0600), Stanton Sanderson wrote:
>
> Thank you for the suggestion, but as stated previously, I’m trying to
> reproduce the original from the Peters edition. The problem, as you point
> out, is that the cut C is used in the original. Whether 8/4 or 4/2 (and I
> agree that 4/2 is the most reasonable time signature), I was looking for a
> way of declaring the cut C.
>
> The included photo is from the piece (# 67. Vater Unser in Himmelreich by
> Johann Kyieger, from _80 Choral Preludes_, Edition Peters, No. 4440,
> Copyright 1947). I think I purchased it some time around 1959.
You can override the glyph, as attached.
Cheers,
David.
\paper { #(set-paper-size "a6") }
mus = { \time 4/2 a'1 a'2 f' g' a' f' e' }
\new Score {
\new Staff {
\new Voice {
\once\override Staff.TimeSignature.stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\once\override Staff.TimeSignature.text = \markup { \musicglyph "timesig.C22" }
\mus
}
}
}
42.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
RE: Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time
Stanton, As far as I know (I use Lilypond 2.22.2) cut C is not available for 4/2. Mark -Original Message- From: Stanton Sanderson Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 6:12 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: LilyPond Users Subject: Re: Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time Mark, Thank you for the suggestion, but as stated previously, I’m trying to reproduce the original from the Peters edition. The problem, as you point out, is that the cut C is used in the original. Whether 8/4 or 4/2 (and I agree that 4/2 is the most reasonable time signature), I was looking for a way of declaring the cut C. The included photo is from the piece (# 67. Vater Unser in Himmelreich by Johann Kyieger, from _80 Choral Preludes_, Edition Peters, No. 4440, Copyright 1947). I think I purchased it some time around 1959. Stan > On Jan 11, 2024, at 7:49 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > > Stanton, > > I think the piece is in 4/2. > Do you want a numeric time signature? > The cut C is used for 2/2. > > Mark > > From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org > On Behalf Of Stanton > Sanderson > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 3:15 PM > To: LilyPond Users > Cc: Stanton Sanderson > Subject: Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time > > I’m setting various short organ pieces from an old Peters edition, mostly to > prevent my aging brain from forgetting… > > One piece is in 8/4 time -the first measure has a whole note and 2 half > notes. However, the time signature as printed is the cut time symbol. How can > I reproduce this? I’m using Lilypond 2.25.11. > >
Re: Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time
Mark, Thank you for the suggestion, but as stated previously, I’m trying to reproduce the original from the Peters edition. The problem, as you point out, is that the cut C is used in the original. Whether 8/4 or 4/2 (and I agree that 4/2 is the most reasonable time signature), I was looking for a way of declaring the cut C. The included photo is from the piece (# 67. Vater Unser in Himmelreich by Johann Kyieger, from _80 Choral Preludes_, Edition Peters, No. 4440, Copyright 1947). I think I purchased it some time around 1959. Stan > On Jan 11, 2024, at 7:49 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > > Stanton, > > I think the piece is in 4/2. > Do you want a numeric time signature? > The cut C is used for 2/2. > > Mark > > From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org > On Behalf Of Stanton > Sanderson > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 3:15 PM > To: LilyPond Users > Cc: Stanton Sanderson > Subject: Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time > > I’m setting various short organ pieces from an old Peters edition, mostly to > prevent my aging brain from forgetting… > > One piece is in 8/4 time -the first measure has a whole note and 2 half > notes. However, the time signature as printed is the cut time symbol. How can > I reproduce this? I’m using Lilypond 2.25.11. > >
RE: Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time
Stanton, I think the piece is in 4/2. Do you want a numeric time signature? The cut C is used for 2/2. Mark From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org On Behalf Of Stanton Sanderson Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 3:15 PM To: LilyPond Users Cc: Stanton Sanderson Subject: Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time I’m setting various short organ pieces from an old Peters edition, mostly to prevent my aging brain from forgetting… One piece is in 8/4 time -the first measure has a whole note and 2 half notes. However, the time signature as printed is the cut time symbol. How can I reproduce this? I’m using Lilypond 2.25.11. image001.png Description: Binary data
Cut time/half-time/alle breve & 8/4 time
I’m setting various short organ pieces from an old Peters edition, mostly to prevent my aging brain from forgetting… One piece is in 8/4 time -the first measure has a whole note and 2 half notes. However, the time signature as printed is the cut time symbol. How can I reproduce this? I’m using Lilypond 2.25.11.
