Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Karlin High]

On 6/23/2022 9:15 AM, Kira Garvie wrote:

I hope I can figure something out from your answers


I don't see anyone asked this: What operating system are you using? 
Windows, Linux, Mac?

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Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Kira Garvie]

Thank you all for the help! Some of this is above my head - a
timidity-daemon sounds like something out of a book... I hope I can figure
something out from your answers, I am sorry I am not yet very savvy with
these programs!

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 2:39 AM Vaughan McAlley 
wrote:

> On Wed, 22 June 2022, 17:33 Henning Hraban Ramm, 
> wrote:
>
>> Am 21.06.22 um 18:17 schrieb Guy Stalnaker:
>> > MacOS -- LONG ago I used to use Homebrew on a MacOS laptop to install
>> > and use QSynth/fluidsynth, so I know at one point that was possible.
>> > Perhaps it still is, but I cannot say for certain. Other users on this
>> > email list may have more recent experience with MacOS.
>>
>> You can install QSynth/fluidsynth via MacPorts (probably still also via
>> Homebrew, it’s a matter of taste).
>>
>> Same as for other systems: Start QSynth before Frescobaldi, and it
>> usually just works (otherwise check the MIDI preferences and reload the
>> MIDI ports).
>>
>> Hraban
>>
>
>>
>
>
> It looks like MidiPipe is still alive. It’s one of the things I miss most
> from my time on Mac:
> http://www.subtlesoft.square7.net/MidiPipe.html
>
> Vaughan
>
>

Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Vaughan McAlley]

On Wed, 22 June 2022, 17:33 Henning Hraban Ramm, 
wrote:

> Am 21.06.22 um 18:17 schrieb Guy Stalnaker:
> > MacOS -- LONG ago I used to use Homebrew on a MacOS laptop to install
> > and use QSynth/fluidsynth, so I know at one point that was possible.
> > Perhaps it still is, but I cannot say for certain. Other users on this
> > email list may have more recent experience with MacOS.
>
> You can install QSynth/fluidsynth via MacPorts (probably still also via
> Homebrew, it’s a matter of taste).
>
> Same as for other systems: Start QSynth before Frescobaldi, and it
> usually just works (otherwise check the MIDI preferences and reload the
> MIDI ports).
>
> Hraban
>

>


It looks like MidiPipe is still alive. It’s one of the things I miss most
from my time on Mac:
http://www.subtlesoft.square7.net/MidiPipe.html

Vaughan

Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 21.06.22 um 18:17 schrieb Guy Stalnaker:
MacOS -- LONG ago I used to use Homebrew on a MacOS laptop to install 
and use QSynth/fluidsynth, so I know at one point that was possible. 
Perhaps it still is, but I cannot say for certain. Other users on this 
email list may have more recent experience with MacOS.


You can install QSynth/fluidsynth via MacPorts (probably still also via 
Homebrew, it’s a matter of taste).


Same as for other systems: Start QSynth before Frescobaldi, and it 
usually just works (otherwise check the MIDI preferences and reload the 
MIDI ports).


Hraban

Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Silvain Dupertuis]

I am un Linux Ubuntu, and could no longer get MIDI playback to work.
When starting Qsynth before Frescobaldi, it works.
Simple and beautiful, just need to know!
Thanks for the trick.

Could we suggest to add a setting in Frescobaldi
to automatically open Qsynth??

Le 21.06.22 à 21:33, Martin Tarenskeen a écrit :

I am on Linux (Fedora) and start Qsynth before starting Frescobaldi.
MIDI playback works perfectly.



Op dinsdag 21 juni 2022 om 14:03:47 -0500 schreef Guy Stalnaker 
:
Never needed to use Musecore once I found Frescobaldi. It is IMO one of the best 
computer applications I've ever used. Perfectly suited for it's purpose.


On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 1:47 PM Vincent Gay  wrote:

Le 21/06/2022 à 18:17, Guy Stalnaker a écrit :
Linux -- a bit more complicated. 

An easy way is to use MuseScore which comes with its own midi synthesizer

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Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Vaughan McAlley]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 at 05:33, Martin Tarenskeen 
wrote:
>
> I am on Linux (Fedora) and start Qsynth before starting Frescobaldi.
> MIDI playback works perfectly.
>
>
>
> Op dinsdag 21 juni 2022 om 14:03:47 -0500 schreef Guy Stalnaker <
jimmyg...@gmail.com>:
>
> Never needed to use Musecore once I found Frescobaldi. It is IMO one of
the best computer applications I've ever used. Perfectly suited for it's
purpose.
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 1:47 PM Vincent Gay  wrote:
>>
>> Le 21/06/2022 à 18:17, Guy Stalnaker a écrit :
>>
>> Linux -- a bit more complicated.
>>
>> An easy way is to use MuseScore which comes with its own midi synthesizer
>>
>> --
>> Vincent Gay
>> Envoyé depuis mon saxo-phone :)
>> https://myrealbook.vintherine.org/ - http://photos.vintherine.org/


It looks like Frescobaldi picks up Qsynth if you open Qsynth first. If that
doesn't work, go to Edit -> Preferences in Frescobaldi, click on the MIDI
Settings tab. Click Refresh MIDI ports, and then find the Qsynth input in
the list of options for Player output.

Vaughan

Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Martin Tarenskeen]

I am on Linux (Fedora) and start Qsynth before starting Frescobaldi.
MIDI playback works perfectly.



Op dinsdag 21 juni 2022 om 14:03:47 -0500 schreef Guy Stalnaker 
:
Never needed to use Musecore once I found Frescobaldi. It is IMO one 
of the best computer applications I've ever used. Perfectly suited 
for it's purpose.


On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 1:47 PM Vincent Gay > wrote:

Le 21/06/2022 à 18:17, Guy Stalnaker a écrit :

Linux -- a bit more complicated.
 An easy way is to use MuseScore which comes with its own midi 
synthesizer


--
Vincent Gay
Envoyé depuis mon saxo-phone :)
 - 

Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Guy Stalnaker]

Never needed to use Musecore once I found Frescobaldi. It is IMO one of the
best computer applications I've ever used. Perfectly suited for it's
purpose.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 1:47 PM Vincent Gay  wrote:

> Le 21/06/2022 à 18:17, Guy Stalnaker a écrit :
>
> Linux -- a bit more complicated.
>
> An easy way is to use MuseScore which comes with its own midi synthesizer
>
> --
> Vincent Gay
> Envoyé depuis mon saxo-phone :)https://myrealbook.vintherine.org/ - 
> http://photos.vintherine.org/
>
>

Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Vincent Gay]

Le 21/06/2022 à 18:17, Guy Stalnaker a écrit :
Linux -- a bit more complicated. 

An easy way is to use MuseScore which comes with its own midi synthesizer

--
Vincent Gay
Envoyé depuis mon saxo-phone :)
https://myrealbook.vintherine.org/  -http://photos.vintherine.org/

Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Guy Stalnaker]

Kira,

Depends on the Operating System you use how you get sound output.

Windows -- requires some software like Virtual Midi Synth (
https://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth) which you install and
run (it will show up in the Windows Task bar). When you start Frescobaldi,
in its Midi settings you can select the process ID value for
VirtualMidiSynth. You will need a soundfont for any of this to work. The
VirtualMidiSynth download page has a list of free soundfonts (FluidR3_GM is
a very good GeneralMidi sound font).

Linux -- a bit more complicated. It's easiest with 2 bits of software,
fluidsynth and QSynth. QSynth requires fluidsynth, so you must have both.
QSynth makes configuring fluidsynth easy (which is why most people use it).
Make sure that QSynth is configured for the correct output device (ALSA
most likely, and almost surely NOT jackd [which requires another whole set
of software]) and soundfont (like VirtualMidiSynth above - you can still
use VMS website to get a sound font -- but I think if you can install
QSynth/fluidsynth you Linux distribution package manager probably also has
a soundfont you can install). QSynth's settings allow you to specify the
"name" of the fluidsynth process, which you can then "see" and select in
Frescobaldi's settings. Run QSynth *before* Frescobaldi to get fluidsynth
going, then in Frescobaldi configure it to use QSynth. QSythn has its own
volume for fluidsynth output independent of you computer's volume so make
sure it's actually loud enough to hear (you'll see it on the QSynth
application UI on the left).

MacOS -- LONG ago I used to use Homebrew on a MacOS laptop to install and
use QSynth/fluidsynth, so I know at one point that was possible. Perhaps it
still is, but I cannot say for certain. Other users on this email list may
have more recent experience with MacOS.

Regards,

Guy S
--

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human existence.”

― Aristotle


On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 10:12 AM Kira Garvie  wrote:

> Hello all,
> I use Frescobaldi to make my scores, and is it possible to have a way to
> play the scores so I can listen to them? It would make my proofreading so
> much quicker!
> Thank you!
> Best,
> Kira
>

Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[David Kastrup]

Silvain Dupertuis  writes:

> Le 21.06.22 à 17:29, Knute Snortum a écrit :
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:11 AM Kira Garvie  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I use Frescobaldi to make my scores, and is it possible to have a
>>> way to play the scores so I can listen to them? It would make my
>>> proofreading so much quicker!
>>> Thank you!
>>> Best,
>>> Kira
>> It's as easy as this: just put \midi{} in your score block.
>>
>> https://frescobaldi.org/uguide#help_ts_midi_generate
>>
>> Then in Frescobaldi, select Tools -> Midi and check Midi Player.  This
>> will play midi files from within Frescobaldi.  If you're on a
>> Linux-type system, you may have more to set up.
>>
>> --
>> Knute Snortum
>>
> It used to work on my Ubuntu installation.
> Presently, I do not manage to get it working from within Frescobaldi
> (the player appears but does not produce any sound), although I have
> both VLC and Timidity able to play midi files...
> Silvain Dupertuis

VLC has its own fluidsynth-based plugin.  Timidity is a command line
application that can also be started as a daemon.

You'll need to either start fluidsynth as a daemon to have it provide
MIDI devices, or install the timidity-daemon package (which does the
same but using timidity).  I don't think Ubuntu has some package that
would run fluidsynth as a daemon.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Silvain Dupertuis]

Le 21.06.22 à 17:29, Knute Snortum a écrit :

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:11 AM Kira Garvie  wrote:

Hello all,
I use Frescobaldi to make my scores, and is it possible to have a way to play 
the scores so I can listen to them? It would make my proofreading so much 
quicker!
Thank you!
Best,
Kira

It's as easy as this: just put \midi{} in your score block.

https://frescobaldi.org/uguide#help_ts_midi_generate

Then in Frescobaldi, select Tools -> Midi and check Midi Player.  This
will play midi files from within Frescobaldi.  If you're on a
Linux-type system, you may have more to set up.

--
Knute Snortum


It used to work on my Ubuntu installation.
Presently, I do not manage to get it working from within Frescobaldi (the player appears 
but does not produce any sound), although I have both VLC and Timidity able to play midi 
files...

Silvain Dupertuis

--
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Route de Lausanne 335
1293 Bellevue (Switzerland)
tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67
portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52
web: silvain-dupertuis.org 

Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Knute Snortum]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:11 AM Kira Garvie  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I use Frescobaldi to make my scores, and is it possible to have a way to play 
> the scores so I can listen to them? It would make my proofreading so much 
> quicker!
> Thank you!
> Best,
> Kira

It's as easy as this: just put \midi{} in your score block.

https://frescobaldi.org/uguide#help_ts_midi_generate

Then in Frescobaldi, select Tools -> Midi and check Midi Player.  This
will play midi files from within Frescobaldi.  If you're on a
Linux-type system, you may have more to set up.

--
Knute Snortum

Playback using Frescobaldi?

[Kira Garvie]

Hello all,
I use Frescobaldi to make my scores, and is it possible to have a way to
play the scores so I can listen to them? It would make my proofreading so
much quicker!
Thank you!
Best,
Kira