Re: nudging a note
On 31.12.2019 19:39, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: Robert, Thank you for your solution that works perfectly! Well, the ties across the barlines are hardly perfectly placed. When you append a corresponding corrective override to the existing \stemDown \override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #1 you will be even closer to the \voiceFour definition. Cheers, Robin
Re: nudging a note
"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > David, > > I was not specific in my request. The original (Mozart K 310) has the middle > voice to the right. > > Thank you for your attention. Well, use \voices 1,4,2 instead of \voices 1,2,4 then. -- David Kastrup
RE: nudging a note
David, Thank you for the two options (and printed results). Several other suggestions led me to the same results Mark -Original Message- From: David Wright [mailto:lily...@lionunicorn.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 11:40 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: 'Robert Blackstone' ; 'Lilypond-User Mailing List' Subject: Re: nudging a note On Tue 31 Dec 2019 at 10:39:46 (-0800), Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > Robert, > Thank you for your solution that works perfectly! Yes, it provides a solution to "Please provide some suggestions/alternatives for the positioning of the first note of the middle voice", but not a lot more. Using voices, as intended by LP, will be more productive (attached). Cheers, David.
RE: nudging a note
David, I was not specific in my request. The original (Mozart K 310) has the middle voice to the right. Thank you for your attention. Mark -Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 11:43 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: 'Lilypond-User Mailing List' Subject: Re: nudging a note "Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > David, > > Thank you for the suggestion. > In each measure the first note of the middle voice is still colliding. > Hm. In the second measure I have a collision with a dot. But no collision otherwise. Does it look differently with you?
Re: nudging a note
"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > David, > > Thank you for the suggestion. > In each measure the first note of the middle voice is still colliding. > Hm. In the second measure I have a collision with a dot. But no collision otherwise. Does it look differently with you? -- David Kastrup
Re: nudging a note
On Tue 31 Dec 2019 at 10:39:46 (-0800), Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
> Robert,
> Thank you for your solution that works perfectly!
Yes, it provides a solution to "Please provide some
suggestions/alternatives for the positioning of the
first note of the middle voice", but not a lot more.
Using voices, as intended by LP, will be more productive
(attached).
Cheers,
David.
\relative c' {
<<
{
c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 |
b2~
^\markup { OP }
b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16
} \\ {
e2 fis |
dis e |
cis dis
} \\ {
\stemDown
b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ |
a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2
}
>>
}
\relative c' {
<<
{
c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 |
b2~
^\markup { Blackstone }
b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16
} \\ {
e2 fis |
dis e |
cis dis
} \\ {
\stemDown
\override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #1
b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ |
a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2
}
>>
}
\relative c' {
\voices 1,4,2
<<
{
c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 |
b2~
^\markup { Kastrup+Hill }
b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16
} \\ {
e2 fis |
dis e |
cis dis
} \\ {
b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ |
a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2
}
>>
}
voices.pdf
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RE: nudging a note
Robert,
Thank you for your solution that works perfectly!
Mark
From: Robert Blackstone [mailto:blackstone.rob...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 1:35 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek
Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List
Subject: Re: nudging a note
Hi Mark,
How about this?
%\version "2.19.83"
\relative c' {
<<{c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 | b2~ b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16}\\ { e2 fis | dis e | cis dis}\\ {\stemDown
\override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #1 b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ | a8. a16
g8. fis16 g2~ | g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2}>>
}
HTH
Best regards,
Robert Blackstone
On 31 Dec 2019, at 07:09, Mark Stephen Mrotek mailto:carsonm...@ca.rr.com> > wrote:
Hello to All
Please provide some suggestions/alternatives for the positioning of the
first note of the middle voice.
Thank you and Happy New Year!
Mark
\version "2.19.83"
\relative c' {
<<{c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 | b2~ b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16}\\
{e2 fis | dis e | cis dis}\\
{\stemDown
b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ | a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2}>>
}
RE: nudging a note
Robin, Using voice Four either implicitly or explicitly does not remedy the collision. Thank you for your suggestions. Mark -Original Message- From: Robin Bannister [mailto:r...@dabble.ch] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 2:21 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek ; 'Lilypond-User Mailing List' Subject: Re: nudging a note Robin Bannister wrote: > Use \voiceFour instead of \stemDown? But using \voiceFour for the middle and \voiceTwo for the bottom makes it a lot easier to follow the voices. Cheers, Robin
RE: nudging a note
David,
Thank you for the suggestion.
In each measure the first note of the middle voice is still colliding.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 2:32 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek
Cc: 'Lilypond-User Mailing List'
Subject: Re: nudging a note
"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes:
> Hello to All
>
>
>
> Please provide some suggestions/alternatives for the positioning of
> the first note of the middle voice.
>
>
>
> Thank you and Happy New Year!
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> \version "2.19.83"
>
>
>
> \relative c' {
>
> <<{c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 | b2~ b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
>
>a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16}\\
>
> {e2 fis | dis e | cis dis}\\
>
> {\stemDown
>
> b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ | a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
>
>g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2}>>
>
> }
Never use \stemDown in input rather than definitions. It is a component in
defining a particular voice, but you are missing other components.
I'd do this in the following way:
RE: nudging a note
Simon,
Thank you for your suggestion.
Using voice four either explicitly or implicitly does not position the notes
correctly
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Simon Albrecht [mailto:simon.albre...@mail.de]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 2:37 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek ; 'Lilypond-User Mailing List'
Subject: Re: nudging a note
Hi Mark,
another low-maintenance solution would be:
<<
{ %{ notes for top voice %} }
\\
{ %{ notes for bottom voice %} }
\\ \\ % NB!
{ %{ notes for middle voice %} }
>>
Best, Simon
On 31.12.19 07:09, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
>
> Hello to All
>
> Please provide some suggestions/alternatives for the positioning of
> the first note of the middle voice.
>
> Thank you and Happy New Year!
>
> Mark
>
> \version "2.19.83"
>
> \relative c' {
>
> <<{c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 | b2~ b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
>
> a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16}\\
>
> {e2 fis | dis e | cis dis}\\
>
> {\stemDown
>
> b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ | a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
>
> g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2}>>
>
> }
>
Re: nudging a note
On 2019-12-31 2:36 am, Simon Albrecht wrote:
another low-maintenance solution would be:
<<
{ %{ notes for top voice %} }
\\
{ %{ notes for bottom voice %} }
\\ \\ % NB!
{ %{ notes for middle voice %} }
>>
Seems a good case for \voices:
\voices 1,4,2 <<
{ %{ top %} }
\\
{ %{ middle %} }
\\
{ %{ bottom %} }
>>
-- Aaron Hill
Re: nudging a note
Hi Mark,
another low-maintenance solution would be:
<<
{ %{ notes for top voice %} }
\\
{ %{ notes for bottom voice %} }
\\ \\ % NB!
{ %{ notes for middle voice %} }
>>
Best, Simon
On 31.12.19 07:09, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
Hello to All
Please provide some suggestions/alternatives for the positioning of
the first note of the middle voice.
Thank you and Happy New Year!
Mark
\version "2.19.83"
\relative c' {
<<{c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 | b2~ b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16}\\
{e2 fis | dis e | cis dis}\\
{\stemDown
b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ | a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2}>>
}
Re: nudging a note
"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes:
> Hello to All
>
>
>
> Please provide some suggestions/alternatives for the positioning of the
> first note of the middle voice.
>
>
>
> Thank you and Happy New Year!
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> \version "2.19.83"
>
>
>
> \relative c' {
>
> <<{c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 | b2~ b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
>
>a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16}\\
>
> {e2 fis | dis e | cis dis}\\
>
> {\stemDown
>
> b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ | a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
>
>g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2}>>
>
> }
Never use \stemDown in input rather than definitions. It is a component
in defining a particular voice, but you are missing other components.
I'd do this in the following way:
\version "2.19.83"
\relative c' {
\voices 1,2,4
<<{c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 | b2~ b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16}\\
{e2 fis | dis e | cis dis}\\
{
b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ | a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2}>>
}
--
David Kastrup
Re: nudging a note
Robin Bannister wrote: Use \voiceFour instead of \stemDown? But using \voiceFour for the middle and \voiceTwo for the bottom makes it a lot easier to follow the voices. Cheers, Robin
Re: nudging a note
Hi Mark,
How about this?
%\version "2.19.83"
\relative c' {
<<{c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 | b2~ b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16}\\ { e2 fis | dis e | cis dis}\\ {\stemDown
\override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #1 b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ | a8. a16 g8.
fis16 g2~ | g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2}>>
}
HTH
Best regards,
Robert Blackstone
> On 31 Dec 2019, at 07:09, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
>
> Hello to All
>
> Please provide some suggestions/alternatives for the positioning of the first
> note of the middle voice.
>
> Thank you and Happy New Year!
>
> Mark
>
> \version "2.19.83"
>
> \relative c' {
> <<{c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 | b2~ b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
>a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16}\\
> {e2 fis | dis e | cis dis}\\
> {\stemDown
> b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ | a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
>g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2}>>
> }
Re: nudging a note
Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: Please provide some suggestions/alternatives for the positioning of the first note of the middle voice. Use \voiceFour instead of \stemDown? Cheers, Robin
nudging a note
Hello to All
Please provide some suggestions/alternatives for the positioning of the
first note of the middle voice.
Thank you and Happy New Year!
Mark
\version "2.19.83"
\relative c' {
<<{c'2~ c8. dis16 e8. c16 | b2~ b8. dis16 e8. b16 |
a2~ a8. b16 c8. a16}\\
{e2 fis | dis e | cis dis}\\
{\stemDown
b'8. b16 a8. gis16 a2~ | a8. a16 g8. fis16 g2~ |
g8. g16 fis8. e16 fis2}>>
}
