Dynamics inside a chord?

2016-09-14 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello folks, Just for a try: \version "2.19.44" \relative { } runs fine without any message, but also without displaying the \p mark: Starting lilypond 2.19.44 [Untitled]... Processing

Re: Write a custom backend?

2016-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Knut Petersen writes: > Am 14.09.2016 um 12:19 schrieb David Kastrup: >> >> Of course it is not "necessary to rewrite the code in Scheme first" >> before making changes to it. But for one thing, not a lot will happen >> without it, for another, without some generally

Re: calculation of the total duration of a score

2016-09-14 Thread Marc Hohl
Hi Jan-Peter, Am 14.09.2016 um 13:18 schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hi Marc, I am busy today, so I will look into your example later. No problem! In short: Repeats are not taken into account right now. Yes. Therefore I used the \unfoldRepeats/\midi-combination, but the duration computed in one

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-14 Thread Davide Liessi
2016-09-14 14:24 GMT+02:00 Chris Yate : > Here's some test cases. I doubt this is the best place to post them (bugs > list?) but they're relevant to the conversation. I may be wrong, but I would say that examples "Extension above 4-note line-top cluster with a 3rd" (page 6,

Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

2016-09-14 Thread Anders Eriksson
On 2016-09-14 12:07, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: "Anders Eriksson" To: "Knut Petersen" ; "lilypond-user" Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

Re: BendSpanner-engraver

2016-09-14 Thread Marc Hohl
Hi Harm, Am 13.09.2016 um 22:41 schrieb Thomas Morley: [...] Even if I wouldn't want to take one I'm forced to: my regular job started after summer-break :(( For me, too :( And -as ever– the TODO list for doing stuff within the summer break is still not completely done. [...] The

Re: BendSpanner-engraver

2016-09-14 Thread David Nalesnik
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:29 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote: >> >> David Nalesnik wrote Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:33 AM >> Subject: Re: BendSpanner-engraver >> >> >>> Hi Harm, >>> >>> This

Re: Dynamics inside a chord?

2016-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Menu Jacques writes: > Hello folks, > > Just for a try: > > \version "2.19.44" > > \relative { } > > runs fine without any message, but also without displaying the \p mark: Not supported. -- David Kastrup ___

Re: Write a custom backend?

2016-09-14 Thread Knut Petersen
Am 14.09.2016 um 12:19 schrieb David Kastrup: Of course it is not "necessary to rewrite the code in Scheme first" before making changes to it. But for one thing, not a lot will happen without it, for another, without some generally useful output definition possibilities, backends like Braille,

Re: calculation of the total duration of a score

2016-09-14 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Marc, I am busy today, so I will look into your example later. In short: Repeats are not taken into account right now. I thought of a factor, that is set, when a repeat starts. But I don't know yet, how to deal with alternatives and repeats with more than two loops. Probably the engraver

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-14 Thread Chris Yate
On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 at 11:58 Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > >> However, you have found a bug I think, since it doesn't seem to > >> work correctly for your case, eliminating dots on the wrong side of > >> the chord. > > > > Also, it’s clearly wrong to have dots in two ‘columns’. They

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> However, you have found a bug I think, since it doesn't seem to >> work correctly for your case, eliminating dots on the wrong side of >> the chord. > > Also, it’s clearly wrong to have dots in two ‘columns’. They look > like double-dotted notes. Please have a closer look! The lower chords

Re: BendSpanner-engraver

2016-09-14 Thread David Nalesnik
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > David Nalesnik wrote Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:33 AM > Subject: Re: BendSpanner-engraver > > >> Hi Harm, >> >> This looks marvelous! I know nothing about the notation, but the demo >> file is simply beautiful

Re: Ties between words in lyrics

2016-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Wed 14 Sep 2016 at 12:04:30 (+0200), Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 14.09.2016 09:46, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > >Hi James, > > > >See: > >http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#multiple-syllables-to-one-note That's elision (if that's the correct

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> Did you intentionally mark those examples with unnecessary dots as >>> "OK", rather than "FAIL"? Yes. >>> In my opinion, they should probably be failure cases. I don't think so. IMHO, the default should be value 0; if you increase the value, more dots do appear, so it's not a failure if

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-14 Thread Chris Yate
On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 at 14:55 Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > Here's some test cases. I doubt this is the best place to post them > > (bugs list?) but they're relevant to the conversation. > > Thanks! However, your PDF file was not in sync with the input file; > I've taken the

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-14 Thread Chris Yate
On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 at 15:18 Chris Yate wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 at 14:55 Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> >> > Here's some test cases. I doubt this is the best place to post them >> > (bugs list?) but they're relevant to the conversation. >> >> Thanks!

Re: Dynamics inside a chord?

2016-09-14 Thread Menu Jacques
Thanks David. JM > Le 14 sept. 2016 à 14:49, David Kastrup a écrit : > > Menu Jacques writes: > >> Hello folks, >> >> Just for a try: >> >> \version "2.19.44" >> >> \relative { } >> >> runs fine without any message, but also without displaying

Re: Combining voices in American Hymns

2016-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Tue 13 Sep 2016 at 20:42:16 (-0600), David F. wrote: > > On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:52 AM, David Wright wrote: > > > There's another "feature" of American hymn books illustrated on > > http://www.hymnary.org/text/amazing_grace_how_sweet_the_sound#pagescans > > which I

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-14 Thread Chris Yate
On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 at 15:20 Chris Yate wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 at 15:18 Chris Yate wrote: > >> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 at 14:55 Werner LEMBERG wrote: >> >>> >>> > Here's some test cases. I doubt this is the best place to post them >>> >

Re: Tags and chord repetition

2016-09-14 Thread Peter Crighton
Alright, I wrote to the Bug list. -- Peter Crighton | Musician & Music Engraver based in Mainz, Germany http://www.petercrighton.de 2016-09-10 21:32 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht : > On 10.09.2016 20:38, Peter Crighton wrote: > >> I came upon some unexpected behaviour when

Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

2016-09-14 Thread Michael Rivers
Anders Eriksson wrote > On 2016-09-14 12:07, Phil Holmes wrote: >> - Original Message - From: "Anders Eriksson" >> > lilypond@ > >> To: "Knut Petersen" > Knut_Petersen@ > ; "lilypond-user" >> > lilypond-user@ > >> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:55 AM >> Subject: Re:

Re: Dynamics inside a chord?

2016-09-14 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 14.09.2016 13:27, Menu Jacques wrote: Hello folks, Just for a try: \version "2.19.44" \relative { } runs fine without any message, but also without displaying the \p mark. A valid request, I think, so: Best,

Re: Ties between words in lyrics

2016-09-14 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi James, > In choral music, I've noticed that the composer will sometimes use this > notation to indicate that the singer is not to breathe in-between two > particular words. In my experience, the more standard/accepted way is to have a dotted slur between the notes, with the lyric-slur

Re: Ties between words in lyrics

2016-09-14 Thread Simon Albrecht
2016-09-14 8:39 GMT+02:00 James Evensen >: Can I put a tie between words in lyrics? In choral music, I've noticed that the composer will sometimes use this notation to indicate that the singer is not to breathe in-between two

Re: Ties between words in lyrics

2016-09-14 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 14.09.2016 19:37, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi James, In choral music, I've noticed that the composer will sometimes use this notation to indicate that the singer is not to breathe in-between two particular words. In my experience, the more standard/accepted way is to have a dotted slur

Re: Tags and chord repetition

2016-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Crighton writes: > Hello all, > > I came upon some unexpected behaviour when using a tag on, for example, a > markup that is attached to a chord repetition symbol (see below). > How can I fix this, so only the markup and not also the chord repetition > symbol gets

Re: Write a custom backend?

2016-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Knut Petersen writes: > Am 13.09.2016 um 14:04 schrieb David Kastrup: >> >>> I believe the output backend principle is a good sign of extensibility >>> but is it really the case? How to instruct Lilypond to use a custom >>> one, then? >> You'd have to make use of one

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-14 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 13.09.2016 07:24, Werner LEMBERG wrote: The issue occurs when writing closely spaced chords with an augmentation dot in the rhythm. Dots are placed only on spaces (which we should expect), but in certain very easy to reproduce conditions, the dot appears in an unexpected place. Cf.

Re: BendSpanner-engraver

2016-09-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Nalesnik wrote Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:33 AM Subject: Re: BendSpanner-engraver > Hi Harm, > > This looks marvelous! I know nothing about the notation, but the demo > file is simply beautiful to behold. > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Thomas Morley

Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

2016-09-14 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Phil, Thank you for pointing this out! I've cleared the c:\users\yourusername\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 file and now everything seems ok: \version "2.18.2" { c } Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.18.2 [Untitled]... Processing `c:/users/pierre/appdata/local/temp/frescobaldi-w66wjy/tmprmqi2o/

Re: BendSpanner-engraver

2016-09-14 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-09-14 14:43 GMT+02:00 Marc Hohl : >> Something at the lines of: > > [...] >> >> This is a very first shot, more a proof-of-concept... > > > This is possible, but I don't think that shortcuts are sufficient here. Well, we do have several shortcuts for well established

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-14 Thread Chris Yate
On 14 Sep 2016 04:26, "Brian Barker" wrote: > > At 23:50 13/09/2016 +, Chris Yate wrote: >> >> Could someone that owns a copy of Gould chip in with a "best practice" recommendation? > > > I've not been following this thread in detail, so I'm not sure if this is what

Re: Video generation, bash script, keeps sync in spite of tempo changes

2016-09-14 Thread Knut Petersen
Am 13.09.2016 um 02:29 schrieb Paul: Hi Knut, Sounds cool! I'd like to check it out when I get a chance. I'm curious how it compares with ly2video? https://github.com/aspiers/ly2video Some differences between my script and ly2video.py: = -> ly2video

Ties between words in lyrics

2016-09-14 Thread James Evensen
Can I put a tie between words in lyrics? In choral music, I've noticed that the composer will sometimes use this notation to indicate that the singer is not to breathe in-between two particular words. I've looked around, but the only examples I've seen of ties used in Lilypond are between notes.

Re: Write a custom backend?

2016-09-14 Thread Knut Petersen
Am 13.09.2016 um 14:04 schrieb David Kastrup: I believe the output backend principle is a good sign of extensibility but is it really the case? How to instruct Lilypond to use a custom one, then? You'd have to make use of one of the existing translator groups (like Engraver_group or

Re: Ties between words in lyrics

2016-09-14 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 14.09.2016 09:46, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: Hi James, See: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#multiple-syllables-to-one-note Cheers, Pierre 2016-09-14 8:39 GMT+02:00 James Evensen >:

Re: calculation of the total duration of a score

2016-09-14 Thread Marc Hohl
Hi Jan-Peter, ok, so I played around with your engraver. It does exactly what it needs to do, but somehow I am not able to get everything to work. I'll try to explain: Let's say that I have some music: music = { ...stuff... \repeat volta 2 { ... more stuff ... } } and want it displayed

Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

2016-09-14 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Anders Eriksson" To: "Knut Petersen" ; "lilypond-user" Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10 On 2016-09-11 11:38, Knut Petersen

Re: Ties between words in lyrics

2016-09-14 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi James, See: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#multiple-syllables-to-one-note Cheers, Pierre 2016-09-14 8:39 GMT+02:00 James Evensen : > Can I put a tie between words in lyrics? In choral music, I've noticed > that the

Re: Ties between words in lyrics

2016-09-14 Thread James Evensen
When I said "tie," I meant that general family of expressive marks as I wasn't sure how to refer to them in the context of lyrics. In fact, while I would like the use of any type of curve, the dotted slur is the notation I want to use. It sounds though that support for this kind of notation with

Re: Augmentation dot positioning

2016-09-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Attached with some extra cases I'd forgotten about (the inverted > versions of the final 6. Looks good, thanks. Please post this to the bug list so that a bugmeister can create an issue – since the old issue was tagged as fixed, a new one will be created. Werner