Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
Eduardo Silva writes: What I would be interested in is a WYSIWYG editor that would be able to take down notes and output a basic ly file, perhaps to Dropbox. Have a look at http://lilypond.org/schikkers Greetings Jan -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org Freelance IT http://JoyofSource.com | Avatar® http://AvatarAcademy.nl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Build your PDFs elsewhere and just use the tablet to display them. That way you don't limit your choices and can get the tablet best suited to your needs which, I assume, is displaying charts on stage. You want clear, large, fast, ability to lookup or arrange set lists, etc. Adding Lilypond to the list of requirements may mean getting something less ideal for your real purpose. Of course, once you choose one, if it also runs LP then bonus. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 788 2246 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. IM: da...@vex.net, VoIP: sip:da...@druid.net ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
An alternative, requiring an internet connection, could be to use http://lilybin.com/ http://lilybin.com/ but for now, the separation line between editor and preview is difficult to move using a tablet. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Anyone-using-a-tablet-for-lily-tp148565p148569.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net writes: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Because then you can deal with a singer complaining that's just too high, can I get this a third lower? on the fly. Or with a conductor saying I think I'd rather have a clarinet than the hautboy for that part. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:21 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Build your PDFs elsewhere and just use the tablet to display them. That way you don't limit your choices and can get the tablet best suited to your needs which, I assume, is displaying charts on stage. You want clear, large, fast, ability to lookup or arrange set lists, etc. Adding Lilypond to the list of requirements may mean getting something less ideal for your real purpose. Of course, once you choose one, if it also runs LP then bonus. I don't know about the original poster, but my interest in being able to run LP on my tablet is on-the-go composition. What I would be interested in is a WYSIWYG editor that would be able to take down notes and output a basic ly file, perhaps to Dropbox. I don't want all the bells and whistles, but just the ability to quickly jot down things that come to mind while I'm away from my desktop and not have to reinput them when I get home. So basic staff/voice/lyrics stuff, since that's just going to be dropped into my existing template/stylesheet when I get home. There are some point-and-click editors for Android (which is what I use), but I don't know of any that interact with LP (note that it would not need to *run* LP, just output source). So basically a stripped-down version of MuseScore or Denemo that works on Android. Cheers, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:40:26 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Because then you can deal with a singer complaining that's just too high, can I get this a third lower? on the fly. Ah. You have one of *those* singers. Singers who keep dropping keys is the main reason I switched to a five-string bass. So, to your original question, I guess you need to check for something running Linux. I suppose Windows would work but I wouldn't trust it to be 100% compatible with a desktop system. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 788 2246 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. IM: da...@vex.net, VoIP: sip:da...@druid.net ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net writes: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:40:26 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Because then you can deal with a singer complaining that's just too high, can I get this a third lower? on the fly. Ah. You have one of *those* singers. Actually, I tend to sing at pitch. It's the listeners that say that's just too high, can I get this a third lower? then. In my active times, I've had to sing bass, tenor and alto in a single choir concert (moving between pieces was one heck of a complex routine to remember). But of course one has to keep up a good practice regime to do that gracefully. So, to your original question, I guess you need to check for something running Linux. I suppose Windows would work but I wouldn't trust it to be 100% compatible with a desktop system. I'd guess that Android should be possible. But it would likely be quite a challenge to teach that to GUB. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net writes: So, to your original question, I guess you need to check for something running Linux. I suppose Windows would work but I wouldn't trust it to be 100% compatible with a desktop system. It is rather straightforward on a rooted Android tablet to run a Linux distro in a chroot environment. See e.g. http://linuxonandroid.org/ The generated PDFs can be made accessible to Android and viewed with a suitable viewer. -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:47:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily? From: carlopeter...@gmail.com To: da...@druid.net CC: i...@soundand.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org What I would be interested in is a WYSIWYG editor that would be able to take down notes and output a basic ly file, perhaps to Dropbox. Hi, I think there are some editors for Android/Ipad that will at least output to ABC or MusicXML, you could try exporting it from there, no? Cheers, Eduardowww.heartfeltsongs.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Eduardo Silva eduardo.su...@hotmail.comwrote: What I would be interested in is a WYSIWYG editor that would be able to take down notes and output a basic ly file, perhaps to Dropbox. Hi, I think there are some editors for Android/Ipad that will at least output to ABC or MusicXML, you could try exporting it from there, no? Probably could. The issue I've had with point-and-click editors in general is that they add a lot more information than I necessarily want. I compose almost exclusively for SATB voices. I have a template that--in coordination with editing some of the internal Scheme files--allows me to input each voice as a variable and then does the automatic part combining. I also put bar and break information in a separate voice, so the only thing I want in the LP output are bare music essentials of notes, slurs and ties (and maybe a couple of other things that escape me at the moment). I've tried to use both MuseScore and Denemo to speed up the compositional work and output a file I can use in my template, but I've found that I spend more time stripping their output of all the extra information that the template doesn't need than I do if I just used my usual type and test workflow. There may be a setting for them not to output this information. If there is, I don't know about it. Cheers, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Eduardo Silva eduardo.su...@hotmail.comwrote: What I would be interested in is a WYSIWYG editor that would be able to take down notes and output a basic ly file, perhaps to Dropbox. Hi, I think there are some editors for Android/Ipad that will at least output to ABC or MusicXML, you could try exporting it from there, no? Probably could. The issue I've had with point-and-click editors in general is that they add a lot more information than I necessarily want. I compose almost exclusively for SATB voices. I have a template that--in coordination with editing some of the internal Scheme files--allows me to input each voice as a variable and then does the automatic part combining. I also put bar and break information in a separate voice, so the only thing I want in the LP output are bare music essentials of notes, slurs and ties (and maybe a couple of other things that escape me at the moment). I've tried to use both MuseScore and Denemo to speed up the compositional work and output a file I can use in my template, but I've found that I spend more time stripping their output of all the extra information that the template doesn't need than I do if I just used my usual type and test workflow. There may be a setting for them not to output this information. If there is, I don't know about it. Tried Frescobaldi? It has templates if you want them, but essentially it is a LilyPond source editor, meaning that you are responsible for everything that gets written in the LilyPond file. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 13:56 -0400, Carl Peterson wrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Eduardo Silva eduardo.su...@hotmail.com wrote: What I would be interested in is a WYSIWYG editor that would be able to take down notes and output a basic ly file, perhaps to Dropbox. Hi, I think there are some editors for Android/Ipad that will at least output to ABC or MusicXML, you could try exporting it from there, no? Probably could. The issue I've had with point-and-click editors in general is that they add a lot more information than I necessarily want. I compose almost exclusively for SATB voices. I have a template that--in coordination with editing some of the internal Scheme files--allows me to input each voice as a variable and then does the automatic part combining. I also put bar and break information in a separate voice, so the only thing I want in the LP output are bare music essentials of notes, slurs and ties (and maybe a couple of other things that escape me at the moment). I've tried to use both MuseScore and Denemo to speed up the compositional work and output a file I can use in my template, but I've found that I spend more time stripping their output of all the extra information that the template doesn't need than I do if I just used my usual type and test workflow. There may be a setting for them not to output this information. If there is, I don't know about it. You could write a scheme script for Denemo that would do that. Each note in Denemo has the relevant LilyPond attached to it, so you could just step through the staff collecting it up and then output it to a file. Richard Cheers, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On 31/07/13 01:21, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Build your PDFs elsewhere and just use the tablet to display them. That way you don't limit your choices and can get the tablet best suited to your needs which, I assume, is displaying charts on stage. You want clear, large, fast, ability to lookup or arrange set lists, etc. Adding Lilypond to the list of requirements may mean getting something less ideal for your real purpose. Of course, once you choose one, if it also runs LP then bonus. I'm more interested in getting something that can replace paper PDF scores. Sony have announced, but not yet released, a 13.3 inch e-reader that can display A4 PDF at life size, and also allows annotations with a stylus. Depending on whether the price is reasonable, I intend to have a look at one when it becomes reality to see if it's viable as a replacement for paper on a music stand, particularly if it could be combined with a foot pedal for page turns. There's a video of it being demoed here on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZSGZkEEVfQ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 07:14 +1000, Nick Payne wrote: On 31/07/13 01:21, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Build your PDFs elsewhere and just use the tablet to display them. That way you don't limit your choices and can get the tablet best suited to your needs which, I assume, is displaying charts on stage. You want clear, large, fast, ability to lookup or arrange set lists, etc. Adding Lilypond to the list of requirements may mean getting something less ideal for your real purpose. Of course, once you choose one, if it also runs LP then bonus. I'm more interested in getting something that can replace paper PDF scores. Sony have announced, but not yet released, a 13.3 inch e-reader that can display A4 PDF at life size, and also allows annotations with a stylus. Depending on whether the price is reasonable, I intend to have a look at one when it becomes reality to see if it's viable as a replacement for paper on a music stand, particularly if it could be combined with a foot pedal for page turns. Ideally you want two pedal presses per page turn - one to turn the top of the page (while you are playing from the bottom of the page) and the other to complete the page turn once you have started on the top of the new page. Denemo does this in its page mode display (but this is not a the real typeset music, just the input for checking). Richard There's a video of it being demoed here on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZSGZkEEVfQ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
Richard: This may be what you want (and I use): Sahara Slate PC i500 ( Windows 7 Professional ) from Tablet Kiosk (www.TabletKiosk.com). I has a 6.5 x 10.5 screen. It can display full page PDF's generated by Lilypond using the software Music Reader (www.MusicReader.net). The software allows viewing one page, two page, or half page. The screen can be rotated (landscape or portrait). With the stylus comments can be written, and erased, from the PDF. The slate also has a disappearing keyboard. Since I use the slate at the piano I use a USB foot pedal to turn pages. This can be purchased from Music Reader. Pages can be turned using the stylus. Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Richard Shann Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:28 PM To: Nick Payne Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily? On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 07:14 +1000, Nick Payne wrote: On 31/07/13 01:21, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:39:16 -0600 i...@soundand.com wrote: Is anyone using a tablet to run lilypond and if so which one? I was thinking about getting a tablet but why run Lilypond on it? Build your PDFs elsewhere and just use the tablet to display them. That way you don't limit your choices and can get the tablet best suited to your needs which, I assume, is displaying charts on stage. You want clear, large, fast, ability to lookup or arrange set lists, etc. Adding Lilypond to the list of requirements may mean getting something less ideal for your real purpose. Of course, once you choose one, if it also runs LP then bonus. I'm more interested in getting something that can replace paper PDF scores. Sony have announced, but not yet released, a 13.3 inch e-reader that can display A4 PDF at life size, and also allows annotations with a stylus. Depending on whether the price is reasonable, I intend to have a look at one when it becomes reality to see if it's viable as a replacement for paper on a music stand, particularly if it could be combined with a foot pedal for page turns. Ideally you want two pedal presses per page turn - one to turn the top of the page (while you are playing from the bottom of the page) and the other to complete the page turn once you have started on the top of the new page. Denemo does this in its page mode display (but this is not a the real typeset music, just the input for checking). Richard There's a video of it being demoed here on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZSGZkEEVfQ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
Hi Richard, I have many friends (professional performing musicians) who use their iPad to play from; I believe they all use an AirTurn to trigger turns with a wireless pedal. Looking forward to hearing what you end up with, and how it works for you — I will be looking into a tablet very soon myself. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
I have been browsing the Internet for ePaper solutions, and have only reached potential products so far. The Brussels Philharmonic quit using paper less than a year ago. I'm still unsure what device to get for replacing my pile of music scores. Best regards, Olivier On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi Richard, I have many friends (professional performing musicians) who use their iPad to play from; I believe they all use an AirTurn to trigger turns with a wireless pedal. Looking forward to hearing what you end up with, and how it works for you — I will be looking into a tablet very soon myself. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Anyone using a tablet for lily?
On 31 July 2013 01:31, flup2 phili...@philmassart.net wrote: An alternative, requiring an internet connection, could be to use http://lilybin.com/ http://lilybin.com/ but for now, the separation line between editor and preview is difficult to move using a tablet. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Anyone-using-a-tablet-for-lily-tp148565p148569.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user For small tweaks to large scores, I can imagine a tablet sending a .ly file to the high-powered desktop back at home, and the desktop sending back a PDF in a fraction of the time it would take the tablet to compile the file on a tablet. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
