Re: Faking a time signature
Hello Malte, Excellent, thanks! JM > Le 15 janv. 2017 à 23:18, Malte Meyn a écrit : > > Am 15.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb Menu Jacques: >> Hello, >> >> Going on with my Gabrieli example, there is a time change to 3/2, and I >> can’t get rid of the warning message on the first R1*3/2. >> >> Thanks again for your help! >> >> JM > > You can adjust the measureLength for this last, shorter measure in 4/2. > You won’t need \partial then. > > \set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 1/1) > g,1 \fermata > \bar "||" > \time 3/2 > R1*3/2 > > Of course you don’t need to set timeSignatureFraction in 3/2 time > because \time 3/2 does that for you ;) > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Faking a time signature
Am 15.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb Menu Jacques: > Hello, > > Going on with my Gabrieli example, there is a time change to 3/2, and I > can’t get rid of the warning message on the first R1*3/2. > > Thanks again for your help! > > JM You can adjust the measureLength for this last, shorter measure in 4/2. You won’t need \partial then. \set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 1/1) g,1 \fermata \bar "||" \time 3/2 R1*3/2 Of course you don’t need to set timeSignatureFraction in 3/2 time because \time 3/2 does that for you ;) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Faking a time signature
Hello,
Going on with my Gabrieli example, there is a time change to 3/2, and I can’t
get rid of the warning message on the first R1*3/2.
Thanks again for your help!
JM
%%
\version "2.19.44"
PartPFourVoiceOne = \relative g {
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\override Score.BarNumber.break-visibility = ##(#f #t #t)
\clef "bass"
\key f \major
\time 4/2 | % 1
\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 2/2
g4 d4 g4 a4 bes2.
bes4 \break | % 4
g,1 \fermata
\bar "||"
\time 3/2
\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 3/2
\partial 1*3/2
\set Score.currentBarNumber = #15
R1*3/2 | % 16
R1*3/2 | % 17
g'1 g2 \break | % 18
}
{ \PartPFourVoiceOne }
%%
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: warning: barcheck
failed at: 1
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> Le 14 janv. 2017 à 07:29, Menu Jacques a écrit :
>
> Hello Andrew, Marte and Simon,
>
> Thanks for the solutions, sorry I missed that topic in december.
>
> Maybe such use of Staff.timeSignatureFraction is worth being mentioned in
> this context in the LPNR? (Score.measureLength is not as of 2.19.31).
>
> JM
>
>> Le 13 janv. 2017 à 17:13, Simon Albrecht a écrit :
>>
>> On 13.01.2017 15:12, N. Andrew Walsh wrote:
>>> I'd probably reduce all note-values by half
>>
>> I strongly advise against that. It obscures the historical evolution of
>> notation and thus takes away an important bit of information from the
>> performer. And honestly: it doesn’t make it significantly easier to read.
>>
>> Best, Simon
>>
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Re: Faking a time signature
Hello Andrew, Marte and Simon, Thanks for the solutions, sorry I missed that topic in december. Maybe such use of Staff.timeSignatureFraction is worth being mentioned in this context in the LPNR? (Score.measureLength is not as of 2.19.31). JM > Le 13 janv. 2017 à 17:13, Simon Albrecht a écrit : > > On 13.01.2017 15:12, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: >> I'd probably reduce all note-values by half > > I strongly advise against that. It obscures the historical evolution of > notation and thus takes away an important bit of information from the > performer. And honestly: it doesn’t make it significantly easier to read. > > Best, Simon > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Faking a time signature
On 13.01.2017 15:12, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: I'd probably reduce all note-values by half I strongly advise against that. It obscures the historical evolution of notation and thus takes away an important bit of information from the performer. And honestly: it doesn’t make it significantly easier to read. Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Faking a time signature
Hi Andrew, The example I needed it for last year was Italian music from about the same period and I was making an edition from the original score, so it may have been fairly common practice at that time. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Faking a time signature
Hi Jacques, my first instinct (given my very limited experience with mensural notation or as a music historian) is that this is a transcription error. The historical time signatures of mensural music did not include a symbol for 4/2: there were either three or two semibreves to a bar, and these were subdivided into either three or two minims. The C and slashed-C signatures we have today both derive from the sign that indicated two semibreves divided into two minims each. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensural_notation#Mensurations. But on the other hand, mensural notation sometimes got really avant-garde: the Squarcialupi Codex is full of pieces with notation that appears in no other sources, and which is often explained on the verso of the page. My advice would be to find an edition that gives a sample of the original notation, and adjust your modern notation accordingly. In this case, I'd probably reduce all note-values by half and keep the slashed-c in the time signature. But like I said: my own expertise in this area is rather limited. Cheers, A On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Menu Jacques wrote: > Hello folks, > > In a Canzon by Gabrieli, we have 4/2 time written as slashed C: > > > I tried: > > \once \override Score.TimeSignature.stencil = ##f > \numericTimeSignature\time 2/2 | % 1 > \numericTimeSignature\time 4/2 | % 1 > > but this displays no time signature at all since both \time’s occur at the > same point in time. > > Thanks for your help! > > JM > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Faking a time signature
Am 13.01.2017 um 14:29 schrieb Menu Jacques:
> Hello folks,
>
> In a Canzon by Gabrieli, we have 4/2 time written as slashed C:
>
\time sets timeSignatureFraction and measureLength. So you can either
use time and set one of these context properties or you set both of them
and don’t need \time:
\version "2.19.53"
{
\time 4/2
\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 2/2
b2 b b b
}
% or
{
\time 2/2
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4/2)
b2 b b b
}
% or
{
\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 2/2
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4/2)
b2 b b b
}
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Re: Faking a time signature
Hi Jacques, \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(2 . 2) \time 4/2 I asked the same question in December, Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
