Re: How can I increase the distance between grouped staves

2019-11-21 Thread Phil Holmes
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From: "Karsten Reincke" 

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Subject: How can I increase the distance between grouped staves



Dear Friends;

and (hopefully) a last question before I can gove something (hopefully) 
useful to

the community:

How can I increase the distance between grouped staves (meaning: the 
distance

after the automatically computed linebreak ?)

Unfortunately, I do not exactly understand what of the notation reference 
refers

to what.

Many thanks for your help
Karsten
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Does http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/vertical-spacing 
help at all?


--
Phil Holmes 





Re: How can I increase the distance between grouped staves

2019-11-09 Thread Karsten Reincke
On Sat, 2019-11-09 at 19:17 +, Carl Sorensen wrote:
> 
> On 11/9/19, 6:13 AM, "Karsten Reincke"  wrote:
> 
> Dear Friends;
> 
> and (hopefully) a last question before I can gove something (hopefully)
> useful to
> the community:
> 
> How can I increase the distance between grouped staves (meaning: the
> distance
> after the automatically computed linebreak ?)
> 
> This is the system-system-spacing variable.  You can read about it here:
> 
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-paper-variables
> 
> They show an example of the system-system-spacing being adjusted.
> 
> You may not see changes when you make small changes to the variables, because 
> it
> is often true that the spacing between systems is actually larger than the
> specified spacing because the systems are stretched out to fit evenly on the
> page.
> 
> You can see the changes more clearly if you set ragged-bottom to #t.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Carl
> 
Dear Carl;

COOL, COOL, COOL - got it and it works. Many thanks!!

best regards Karsten
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 Im Braungeröll 31   >oo<  mailto:k.rein...@fodina.de
60431 Frankfurt a.M.  \/http://www.fodina.de/kr/





Re: How can I increase the distance between grouped staves

2019-11-09 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 11/9/19, 6:13 AM, "Karsten Reincke"  wrote:

Dear Friends;

and (hopefully) a last question before I can gove something (hopefully) 
useful to
the community:

How can I increase the distance between grouped staves (meaning: the 
distance
after the automatically computed linebreak ?)

This is the system-system-spacing variable.  You can read about it here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-paper-variables

They show an example of the system-system-spacing being adjusted.

You may not see changes when you make small changes to the variables, because 
it is often true that the spacing between systems is actually larger than the 
specified spacing because the systems are stretched out to fit evenly on the 
page.

You can see the changes more clearly if you set ragged-bottom to #t.

HTH,

Carl





RE: How can I increase the distance between grouped staves

2019-11-09 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Karsten.

Perhaps:

\paper {
ragged-bottom = ##f
}

Mark


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Subject: Re: How can I increase the distance between grouped staves

On Sat, 2019-11-09 at 14:17 +, Phil Holmes wrote:
> - Original Message -
> [...]
> > 
> > How can I increase the distance between grouped staves (meaning: the 
> > distance after the automatically computed linebreak ?) [...]
> 
> Does 
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/vertical-spacing
> help at all?
> 
> --
> Phil Holmes
> 

Dear Phil, unfortunately not. I do not want to in increase the distance within a
system, but the distance between systems. I attached an image by which you
probably directly see my problem: bar 4 - 6 is set too close to bar 1 - 3. And 
bar
7 - 10 is set too close to bar 4 - 6.

I am very sorry, that I do not know / use the correct English words to say what 
I
mean. Even in German the respective words are used inconsistently and
unsufficiently:

staff = "a series of (normally five) horizontal lines upon and between which the
musical notes are written"

staves = "pl of staff"

system = 

a) "collection of staves (staff) [...] used for writing down [...] orchestral
music"
b) "section of the score spanning the width of a single page"

These are the definitions of the LilyPond glossary
(lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/music-glossary-big-page.html)

But I want to denote this: If my system ( meaning 'a' ) does not contain so many
staves, that it spanns the width of a single page ( meaning 'b' ) , but more 
than
only to fill one line, then my system is split into system parts (by a kind of
line feed) which are printed on the page.

So now I still have 2 questions:

a) What's the correct Lilypond word for a line (of staves)?
b) How do I increase the distance between the lines.

Again, any help is appreciated
Karsten

-- 
  Karsten Reincke/\/\   (+49|0) 170 / 927 78 57
 Im Braungeröll 31   >oo<  mailto:k.rein...@fodina.de
60431 Frankfurt a.M.  \/http://www.fodina.de/kr/





Re: How can I increase the distance between grouped staves

2019-11-09 Thread Karsten Reincke
On Sat, 2019-11-09 at 14:17 +, Phil Holmes wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> [...]
> > 
> > How can I increase the distance between grouped staves (meaning: the 
> > distance
> > after the automatically computed linebreak ?)
> > [...]
> 
> Does http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/vertical-spacing 
> help at all?
> 
> --
> Phil Holmes 
> 

Dear Phil, unfortunately not. I do not want to in increase the distance within a
system, but the distance between systems. I attached an image by which you
probably directly see my problem: bar 4 - 6 is set too close to bar 1 - 3. And 
bar
7 - 10 is set too close to bar 4 - 6.

I am very sorry, that I do not know / use the correct English words to say what 
I
mean. Even in German the respective words are used inconsistently and
unsufficiently:

staff = "a series of (normally five) horizontal lines upon and between which the
musical notes are written"

staves = "pl of staff"

system = 

a) "collection of staves (staff) [...] used for writing down [...] orchestral
music"
b) "section of the score spanning the width of a single page"

These are the definitions of the LilyPond glossary
(lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/music-glossary-big-page.html)

But I want to denote this: If my system ( meaning 'a' ) does not contain so many
staves, that it spanns the width of a single page ( meaning 'b' ) , but more 
than
only to fill one line, then my system is split into system parts (by a kind of
line feed) which are printed on the page.

So now I still have 2 questions:

a) What's the correct Lilypond word for a line (of staves)?
b) How do I increase the distance between the lines.

Again, any help is appreciated
Karsten

-- 
  Karsten Reincke/\/\   (+49|0) 170 / 927 78 57
 Im Braungeröll 31   >oo<  mailto:k.rein...@fodina.de
60431 Frankfurt a.M.  \/http://www.fodina.de/kr/