Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-11 Thread Wookey
+++ Dave Martin [2011-03-11 11:20 +]: Although it's not directly related to nano (which is useful in itself as a miminal usable system) it could make sense to be able to generate images with no built-in packager support - i.e., the packer must effectively be run offline to generate the

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-11 Thread Pawel Moll
Hi, Installed image is 125 Megs. (Down from 290 Meg) We're on the cusp of being able to fit into 128 megs of flash. If that's seen to be interesting, we should probably discuss it with the emdebian folks-- there's a risk of reinventing what they do; plus they certainly have tools which

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 01:01:46PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: On Fri, Mar 11, 2011, Dave Martin wrote: As I understand it, debootstrap or germinate basically do the right thing. All we would need would be to document the use of the existing tools, and provide suitable ultra-minimal seeds

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-11 Thread Dechesne, Nicolas
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Tom Gall tom.g...@linaro.org wrote: I don't know why we're installed the firmware deb, does any of the hardware we're supporting even use that? fwiw... TI wlan chipset firmware (wl127x) is in this package. so on pandaboard with current mainline + linux-firmware

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-10 Thread David Gilbert
On 9 March 2011 19:15, Tom Gall tom.g...@linaro.org wrote: Going deeper it's pretty easy to spot low hanging fruit: From fs - Do we need afs, jfs, code, minix, hpfs, xfs, hfs, hfsplus, gfs2, reiserfs...  I'm thinking no. From drivers - net and media make about about 1/3rd of the 28 meg in

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-10 Thread James Westby
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:15:25 -0600, Tom Gall tom.g...@linaro.org wrote: 2) Linaro-media-create shouldn't install linux-firmware_1.47_all.deb ? Do we have any any hardware that needs it? If so could there be a --nano option to not install it? This is currently in the hwpacks as linux-image-*

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-10 Thread Jamie Bennett
On 10/03/11 at 09:20am, James Westby wrote: On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:15:25 -0600, Tom Gall tom.g...@linaro.org wrote: 3) linaro-media-create should have some kind of option (--nano) to clear out apt caches (saves ~40 meg of space) If you want this it should be an easy change to make. If its

RE: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-10 Thread Guillaume Leteller
Hi In the developer platforms team we're working on getting the linaro-nano image so that it is considerably smaller. Brilliant! Some highlights to nano: * The linaro-image boots just as our linaro-headless image did (upstart and friends) * it can be updated, or additional pkgs

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-10 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011, Tom Gall wrote: Specifically from the installed image after the hwpack deps are installed get rid of the following: rm -f ./var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages rm -f ./var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources rm -f ./var/lib/apt/lists/*Release rm -f ./var/lib/apt/lists/*Release.gpg rm -f

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-10 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia 2011-03-10, czw o godzinie 17:43 +0100, Loïc Minier pisze: I think there is a way for APT to keep compressed versions of these files; it's the Acquire::GzipIndexes option And all those files can be recreated by APT when needed so there is no need to keep them in image which has to be

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 09:56:12AM +, David Gilbert wrote: 1) Is there agreement that for all the kernels we supply that we should change the policy for kernel configs to not default to everything on? (Maybe we should be using the upstream config with minimal modifications?) Pro:

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-10 Thread Wookey
+++ Tom Gall [2011-03-09 13:15 -0600]: From sound - ac97, are there arm boards that use that? Some do. I know pxa270-based boards do. I don't know about new, shiny linaro v7-vintage stuff. So that said, what is the best way to proceed? 1) Is there agreement that for all the kernels we