Re: Freescale Linux BSP review

2010-12-23 Thread Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
On 22 December 2010 20:39, Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski curi...@bwv190.internetdsl.tpnet.pl wrote: So to say that the corporate world might need to consider Open Source to be competitive and survive, but the reverse is not true i.e. Open Source doesn't _require_ the corporate world to survive. i

Re: Freescale Linux BSP review

2010-12-23 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 à 15:29 -0500, Nicolas Pitre a écrit : It is not economically viable for the Open Source community to accommodate proprietary drivers, irrespective of how loud you might advocate for that. I think you can remove the word economically from your sentence (or

Re: Freescale Linux BSP review

2010-12-23 Thread Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski
it would take until a beta driver appears? 1 year? 2 years? And what will happen in the meantime? plainly.some other company will take over the market, and sell products with open drivers available. in meantime arm devices can still be used for i.e. dataloggers, especially without linux

Re: autobuild system of linaro

2010-12-23 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Tom, On 12/22/2010 06:51 PM, Tom Gall wrote: Hi Robert, I don't know if Paul was successful but I do build systems from the linaro/ubuntu packages so I suspect I can probably be of some assistance. Great! Thanks for offering your help. This might be something better discussed

Re: Freescale Linux BSP review

2010-12-23 Thread Alan Cox
The GPLv2 is written such that the if you're interfacing the kernel or compiler you don't need to opensource that bit with your app I would suggest you re-read the license. It says nothing of the sort. Indeed the gcc compiler licensing for the compiler support library is actually rather

Re: Freescale Linux BSP review

2010-12-23 Thread Alan Cox
way to behave. The best way to get companies to change their behaviour is to find them and support them. Making threatening GPL noises in email does not help them in any way. I would disagree based on years of history. The best way to get a company to change behaviour is for a situation

Re: Freescale Linux BSP review

2010-12-23 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:18:21AM -0600, Matt Sealey wrote: Ownership of the code is dependent on who licensed it. I do not think Linaro need be so concerned over opensourcing or reimplementing drivers. The fact that the kernel driver is open source as it is, and this is by far the most

Re: Freescale Linux BSP review

2010-12-23 Thread David Rusling
Alan, I still stand by my assertion that educating companies as to the realities and philosophies of open source is better than threatening them. Your analogy of open source as a standard, a practical de facto standard written in a programming language is a good one.Forking code

Re: Linaro gcc ICE bug

2010-12-23 Thread Matthias Klose
On 13.12.2010 20:00, Ulrich Weigand wrote: Khem Rajraj.k...@gmail.com wrote: The bug http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=46883 files against GCC trunk also happens with linaro gcc 4.5 My guess is that there is a backported patch from trunk into linaro 4.5 tree thats causing this ICE