Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-14 Thread Kathy Madison via Lincoln
t; > From: Barbara Peskin <mailto:bpeski...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 8:45 AM > To: <mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails > > Dear Lincoln, > > Based on the Commissions vote last night there will now be recrea

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-14 Thread V Saleme
Good idea. On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:35 AM Stephanie Smoot wrote: > So now, bikes are allowed, may I campaign to allow camping on Conservation > Land- there is lots of room. > > > > *From: *Barbara Peskin > *Sent: *Thursday, July 14, 2022 8:45 AM > *To: * > *Subjec

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-14 Thread Stephanie Smoot
Lincoln.  So now, bikes are allowed, may I campaign to allow camping on Conservation Land- there is lots of room.  From: Barbara PeskinSent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 8:45 AMTo: Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails Dear Lincoln,  Based on the Commissions vote last night there will now be

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-14 Thread Barbara Peskin
Dear Lincoln, Based on the Commissions vote last night there will now be recreational biking on 1/2 of the trails at Mt. Misery and more trails throughout Lincoln and permits given for bike groups to use them. Someone on Lincoln Talk commented that there has been a nine month process for getting

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails and horses and dogs and snow shoe people and skiers and

2022-07-12 Thread Michelle Barnes via Lincoln
Dear LincolnTalk, [Disclaimer: Posting this as a resident of Lincoln to provide hopefully useful information for this part of the Lincoln Talk discussion and not in any of my capacities on Town-based Boards.] In case you are interested in the question Rich Rosenbaum recently posed (also below):

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails and horses and dogs and snow shoe people and skiers and

2022-07-12 Thread Bob Kupperstein
I think the same argument was made when we considered liquor licenses. The sky hasn't fallen. And the same argument could be made for really *any* kind of change. It feels like people are pretty entrenched in their positions and the discussion has become a forum for ringing up votes for one side

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails and horses and dogs and snow shoe people and skiers and

2022-07-12 Thread Rich Rosenbaum
Those are reasonable points. I might point out, though, if the goal is to restore nature as much as possible we should stop all trail usage. We can reverse the incremental changes that those before us have made and some of us are currently benefiting from. So I think the question is: what is the b

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails and horses and dogs and snow shoe people and skiers and

2022-07-12 Thread Gordon Woodington
Because not everything that is grey can be undone and when it gets too dark it is too late. Just the nature of how most of humankind, governments, groups of people react. It is too hard. An individual claims one's personal increment is important and must be allowed, as many others will do too, a

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-12 Thread Barbara Peskin
I believe the Conservation Commission is the most important place to share thoughts but I feel the need to clarify here. Many of us trying to protect nature think of nature as the few and voiceless and the people as the many. We are trying to protect nature when there are so many other pressures o

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-12 Thread Joan Kimball
I agree. Jeannine. Leave the trails as they are. My concern is for habitat. This--connected wildlife corridors in Lincoln-- is a wonderful thing. And, so often we, the dominant species, have favored people and their desires over wildlife in big and small ways. I walked to Walden Pond yesterday on

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-12 Thread John Mendelson
Always a sensible idea to protect the interests of a few at the expense of the many. On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 12:15 PM jeannine taylor wrote: > There is a concern for those home owners whose “newly recommended bike > paths” are in their front or backyards. It may not affect everyone but > certai

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-12 Thread jeannine taylor
There is a concern for those home owners whose “newly recommended bike paths” are in their front or backyards. It may not affect everyone but certainly puts a burden on others. I feel we should leave the trails as they are now. Jeannine Taylor > On Jul 12, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Bob Mason

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-12 Thread Bob Mason
Barbara, I appreciate that you have taken the time to read and process the many messages about these trail use policies, but I believe the fear of change you are describing is a bit out of scope. I believe the language of "drastic change" is misplaced. For example, bike groups can already ride in

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails and horses and dogs and snow shoe people and skiers and

2022-07-12 Thread melinda bruno-smith
10:09 AM To: LincolnTalk Subject: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails and horses and dogs and snow shoe people and skiers and I don't know why people think that changes are irreversible. If something isn't working is there a reason that it can't be undone? How else can you learn wh

[LincolnTalk] bikes and trails and horses and dogs and snow shoe people and skiers and

2022-07-12 Thread Rich Rosenbaum
I don't know why people think that changes are irreversible. If something isn't working is there a reason that it can't be undone? How else can you learn what really works and what doesn't? -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. Search the archives at http

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-12 Thread Barbara Peskin
Hi Lincoln, I am trying to go through all the comments on bikes and trails. It is a lot to go through. I had hoped to reach out to some of you to ask that you send your comments to the Conservation Commission which is voting tomorrow (I don't know the LLCT time line). I would not count on them read

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-11 Thread Terry Kay Epperson
oboggan into it. > > *From: *Leslie Turek > *Subject: **Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails* > *Date: *July 10, 2022 at 11:15:46 PM EDT > *To: *Linda McMillan > *Cc: *Sara Lupkas , Lincoln Talk < > Lincoln@lincolntalk.org>, Colleen Katsuki > > > I could be wrong a

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails & dogs

2022-07-11 Thread Gordon Woodington
I would caution applying this to Lincoln's Sandy Pond. How does the scaling look, Fresh Pond vs Sandy Pond? Is the total volume of water comparable, volume vs length of perimeter? What is the flow rate into and out of their volumes? i.e. refreshment rate. I would hazard a guess that Fresh Po

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails & dogs

2022-07-11 Thread Kathleen Lomatoski
Fresh Pond is definitely heavily used, and lots of dogs are walked there daily. There are dog poop bag dispensers all along the path along with many trash bins; most people comply with picking up & disposing their dog‘s waste, though I imagine compliance is not 100%. Only Cambridge-tagged dogs

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-11 Thread Linda McMillan
I think what the Cambridge Water Department was saying was that after a search of all the published literature at the time, they found that it was geese poop, not dog poop, that posed a threat to drinking water quality, so they allow dogs off leash around Fresh Pond. The fence keeps dogs and ani

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-11 Thread Sara Lupkas
Hello! Staff from both LLCT and the Conservation Department see these emails. Sara Lupkas Stewardship Director Lincoln Land Conservation Trust e. lup...@lincolnconservation.org p. 781-259-9251 c. 610-620-3626 > On Jul 9, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Sara Mattes wrote: > > They should all go to Co

[LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-11 Thread Christopher Eliot
I think the full quote was "After an exhaustive search of the published literature on the issue of dog waste and its impact on water quality, they found no evidence that dog waste had a negative impact on water quality. Instead, they found it was geese poop that was creating a problem with wate

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-11 Thread Christopher Eliot
Yes, Fresh Pond has been fenced in for over 50 years. I broke my nose on it when my friend drove our toboggan into it. > From: Leslie Turek mailto:leslie.tu...@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails > Date: July 10, 2022 at 11:15:46 PM EDT >

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-11 Thread Pastor Allen
Leslie, Are used to live next to Fresh Pond in Belmont/Cambridge. The pond is fenced all the way around its perimeter, not to mention tons of poison ivy growing inside the fence! – Allen Vander Meulen Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 10, 2022, at 23:16, Leslie Turek wrote: > >  > I could be w

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-10 Thread Donald Fonseca
gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 8:07 PM To: Sara Lupkas<mailto:lup...@lincolnconservation.org> Cc: Lincoln Talk<mailto:Lincoln@lincolntalk.org>; Colleen Katsuki<mailto:coll...@shadowtracks.org> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails It's good to kn

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-10 Thread Leslie Turek
I could be wrong about this, but doesn't Fresh Pond have a fence that prevents dogs from actually getting down into the pond or close to the edge? That might be why they can permit dogs off leash at Fresh Pond. Flints Pond has no such fence, nor would we want one. Leslie Turek On Sun, Jul 10, 20

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-10 Thread Linda McMillan
It's good to know that the staff from LLCT and the Conservation Commission see these discussions. I just learned a very important piece of information I would like to pass along. In talking with a Water Commissioner in Cambridge, I was told that Cambridge went through a very similar process of det

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-09 Thread Sara Mattes
They should all go to Con Comm staff for public record Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2022, at 5:56 PM, Linda McMillan wrote: > >  > I am wondering if the Conservation Commission Director or staff even see any > of these comments unless you send them directly to them via the email on the >

Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-09 Thread Linda McMillan
I am wondering if the Conservation Commission Director or staff even see any of these comments unless you send them directly to them via the email on the town's website. Not sure. On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, 8:09 AM Colleen Katsuki wrote: > Good points Christopher. > > One thing I think is that we actu

[LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

2022-07-09 Thread Colleen Katsuki
Good points Christopher. One thing I think is that we actually need more data.How many bikes are on which trails ?  I remember the dogs off leash controversy some years ago and on Mt Misery.  Dogs were allowed off leash only on certain trails .But what happens is people say or think:" My dog i