Re: [LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-31 Thread Karl Auer
On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 18:14 +1000, David Lochrin wrote: > The Coalition parties, state & federal, see everything as a business > rather than an investment in national infrastructure or culture.  I > believe it's conservative ideology. The simplest way IMHO to describe the difference between the

Re: [LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-31 Thread David Lochrin
On Monday 31 July 2017 at 17:35 Stephen Loosley wrote: > Mr Budde said it was shameful that politicians had turned the NBN into a > "political football," rather than treating it as a national interest > investment, and said it was time for a bipartisan plan to be drawn up to fix > the current

Re: [LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-31 Thread David Lochrin
On Monday 31 July 2017 at 16:40 JanW wrote: > Some bright spark from some dodgy tech company came in with a nice colour > brochure. Can't think of anything else that make sense. Maybe that's also the reason the NSW Coalition, under our revered leader Gladys, ordered a large light-rail project

Re: [LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-31 Thread Stephen Loosley
Andy writes, > Mr. Trumble, please explain how a node is upgradable? Oh, you rip > it all out and start again? M, more affordable -andyf … Leading telecommunications expert Paul Budde has released a mid-year assessment of the NBN, which blasts the politicisation of digital

Re: [LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-31 Thread Andy Farkas
On 31/07/2017 16:40, JanW wrote: Some bright spark from some dodgy tech company came in with a nice colour brochure. Can't think of anything else that make sense. Yay for the new season of Utopia! :) -andyf ___ Link mailing list

Re: [LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-31 Thread Andy Farkas
http://www.afr.com/technology/web/nbn/what-a-bunch-of-ding-dongs-heres-why-the-nbn-is-far-worse-than-you-think-20170728-gxl1t7 -andyf ___ Link mailing list Link@mailman.anu.edu.au http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link

Re: [LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-31 Thread JanW
At 04:26 PM 31/07/2017, Andy Farkas wrote: >Mr. Trumble, please explain how a node is upgradable? Oh, you rip it all out >and start again? M, more affordable Some bright spark from some dodgy tech company came in with a nice colour brochure. Can't think of anything else that make

Re: [LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-31 Thread Andy Farkas
Pardon the French, but the asshole is full of shit (no pun intended). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6DDYOJ8phQ Mr. Trumble, please explain how a node is upgradable? Oh, you rip it all out and start again? M, more affordable [sorry all, it's been a bitch of a Monday] -andyf

Re: [LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-30 Thread David Boxall
On 31/07/2017 12:52 PM, David Lochrin wrote: ... Those figures are not very convincing unless all cost components are identified as line items and sourced. ... The figures were reportedly leaked. The source is not likely to be revealed (at least, not voluntarily). Our government has a

[LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-30 Thread David Lochrin
On 25th July 2017 David Boxall wrote (complete text below): > The economics of fixed wireless are questionable, it seems, at least under > some circumstances: > So here is the juicy detail > [...] Those figures are not very convincing unless all cost components are identified as line items and