[linrad] Re: Win-network / UKSMG_50MHz ; Re: [linrad] Re: Linrad-02.22

2007-02-26 Thread 'Zaba' OH1ZAA


Dear Leif,

Hopefully you had a good time in the tropics.

I can only admire your persistence and energy
in this project. What I have seen through the
years is: that once you question the options for
proceeding, it will not take too long before you
will have a new operational solution. I am sorry
that I can not help in this, but I am sure that
there are some "socket-experts" in the audience!

73, "Zaba"  OH1ZAA/2



At 00:25 27.2.2007 +0100, SM5BSZ wrote:


Dear Zaba,

This has been unanswered for a month or so..

Since quite some time Linrad is not "DSP
radio for LINUX on Intel platforms":-)

> Maybe I interpreted some remarks too freely, or is the networking
> planned for the Win-version?
Sure - but I have no idea how to proceed.
I am sure it is quite easy - but there seems to be
several different ways and there is the usual
mixture of acronyms that I can not interpret at
those places where I tried to get a hint.

I need to know how to open a socket (or whatever
it might be called) to read UDP packages under
Windows. That would at least be a starting point.

73

Leif



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[linrad] Re: Win-network / UKSMG_50MHz ; Re: [linrad] Re: Linrad-02.22

2007-02-26 Thread Leif Asbrink
Dear Zaba,

This has been unanswered for a month or so..

Since quite some time Linrad is not "DSP 
radio for LINUX on Intel platforms":-)

> Maybe I interpreted some remarks too freely, or is the networking 
> planned for the Win-version?
Sure - but I have no idea how to proceed.
I am sure it is quite easy - but there seems to be
several different ways and there is the usual
mixture of acronyms that I can not interpret at
those places where I tried to get a hint.

I need to know how to open a socket (or whatever
it might be called) to read UDP packages under
Windows. That would at least be a starting point.

73

Leif


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[linrad] Win-network / UKSMG_50MHz ; Re: [linrad] Re: Linrad-02.22

2007-01-23 Thread 'Zaba' OH1ZAA


Dear Leif!

Linrad continues its great evolution and I have tried to keep the 50 
MHz community up-to-date
with the latest developments as I think that it is extremely usable 
in that part of the spectrum.


Linrad's documentation is exemplary to other projects, but 
since  development is so fast, the
contents of the documents sometimes bypass the original chapter 
titles. Please check below
whether any adaptation of chapter "headers" is needed (to keep the 
"googling" public on track).
Maybe I interpreted some remarks too freely, or is the networking 
planned for the Win-version?


Wherever you go in the Caribbean, maybe you can bring some of the 
"most wanted" on the air
on 50 MHz or other bands, and at the same time put Linrad to a 
tropical real world test!!


In any case I wish you a great trip and good relaxing! 73, "Zaba" 
(PJ2/)OH1ZAA  ex-ZF2KZ




From UKSMG Announcements (January 2007):

LINRAD: like in human life names and titles may be misleading... 
Though SM5BSZ's page title
reads "DSP radio for LINUX on Intel platforms", the wlr2-22 version 
works these days perfectly
well with Windows (and with AMD's CPU's too, to put it 
overclearly...) --- The networking feature
was gone for a while (with the transition from 1-xx single-treaded to 
2-xx multi-threaded), but is
now back in the lir2-xx linux branch and will be added to future 
wlr2-xx --- 73, "Zaba" OH1ZAA/2 ---

Sunday, January 21 2007 at 17:13 (GMT)

The latest Linrad 2.22 with network properties is available at the 
end of the page through this link:
http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/linroot.htm (Network not yet 
implemented in the Windows-version)
I2PHD's Winrad 1.23 (Windows only) comes through 
http://weaksignals.com/  On the Web you can
find several descriptions of Linrad or Winrad implementations with an 
input bandwidth of 15 kHz or less,
though prefiltering weakens performance ... remember that the 
man-made noise cancelling works best
with 48 kHz or wider input bandwidth. Cheap direct-conversion 
I/Q-circuits work amazingly well 

Happy New Year to you all!  73, "Zaba" OH1ZAA/OHoMZA 
Sunday, January 21 2007 at 16:54 (GMT)



At 20:06 23.1.2007, SM5BSZ wrote:

Hello  Francesco,

> about Linrad-02.22, for example, i'm not able to run with it (as 
i do with 2.20 and 2.21) the
> recorded files (like FRH0135 for example and others)because when 
i push the "A" key it crash.

> This is a minus problem.
OK. I can reproduce it now:-)

I always have a second file name on the line to have separate
parameters for each recording. This will be an easy fix -
but since I leave in less than 24 hours I can not fix it
immediately

> The main problem on my new UBUNTU installation (with ALSA)is that 
i'm not able to obtain the
> filter calibration, although i have copied into the LINRAD folder 
the "DSP***" files, that i'm

> using on Mandrake installation.
You must use the same settings for the soundcard.
Same number of channels, same sampling speed and
mode (I/Q or real-valued data) Compare the par_userint
files to see what differs between your two installations.

73

Leif / SM5BSZ



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[linrad] Re: Linrad-02.22

2007-01-23 Thread Leif Asbrink
Hello  Francesco,

> about Linrad-02.22, for example, i'm not able to run with it (as i do with 
> 2.20 and 2.21) the 
> recorded files (like FRH0135 for example and others)because when i push the 
> "A" key it crash.
> This is a minus problem.
OK. I can reproduce it now:-)

I always have a second file name on the line to have separate
parameters for each recording. This will be an easy fix - 
but since I leave in less than 24 hours I can not fix it 
immediately

> The main problem on my new UBUNTU installation (with ALSA)is that i'm not 
> able to obtain the
> filter calibration, although i have copied into the LINRAD folder the 
> "DSP***" files, that i'm
> using on Mandrake installation.
You must use the same settings for the soundcard. 
Same number of channels, same sampling speed and
mode (I/Q or real-valued data) Compare the par_userint
files to see what differs between your two installations.

73

Leif / SM5BSZ


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[linrad] Re: Linrad-02.22

2007-01-21 Thread frankddr
Many thanks Leif for your
explanation.
 
I'll follow your indications.
 
73' FrancescoOn Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:49:58 +0100Leif Asbrink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Hello Francesco,> >> Do you know how or if is possible to copy or make some >>other>> job on UBUNTU, out from "ROOT" mode?>> Now, due my low experience with it i can download only >>out from>> "ROOT", but i can not make any administration.> > I do not quite understand this question.> > Presumably you are caught in the graphical interface X11> with some security functions that I do not know the >details of.> > The standard procedure I use is to press Ctrl Alt F1> to get a console terminal where I can log in as root> with full privileges for everything.> > The next thing would be to edit /etc/inittab> > # The default runlevel.> id:3:initdefault:> > In Ubuntu you presumably have 5 here.> > In some distributions even runlevel 3 starts X11.> In such cases I remove the file /rc3.d/SXXgdm > (XX is a two digit number)> > Different distributions place the file at different >places:> /etc/rc3.d/SXXgdm> /etc/init.d/rc3.d/SXXgdm> /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/SXXgdm> > This way I always log in in terminal mode.> > When I want X11 I type startx.> > Shift between terminals with Alt F1 to Alt F6.> You may log in as root on some of them and> as a normal user on others. It may be> a good idea to start X11 from a terminal> that is logged in as a normal user. Some> Linux systems do not behave well in case> you run X11 as root (e.g. Mandriva).> > Personally I prefer Debian. It does not have> any restrictions and I am allowed to run X11 as > root on my own responsibility.> > In my experience the probability for unexpected > behaviour is much higher under X11 as compared to> terminal mode. The reason is that soundcards and > other resources are shared with other programs.> Things like changing the sampling speed with ossmix> may lead to unexpected problems. > > There are only two valid reasons to use X11 as I see > it.> 1) Your videocard is not supported by svgalib.> 2) You want to run other programs simultaneously.> > X11 works perfectly well nearly always - but one looses> some valuable screen area. Starting stopping and >changing> the sound system is not always safe. Presumably some> programs believe one does not do such things and behave> as if changes to the sound system do not exist with a> total lockup of the sound system as a consequence. > > > 73> > Leif / SM5BSZ> > > > #> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Send administrative queries to > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>

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[linrad] Re: Linrad-02.22

2007-01-21 Thread Leif Asbrink
Hello Francesco,

> Do you know how or if is possible to copy or make some other
> job on UBUNTU, out from "ROOT" mode?
> Now, due my low experience with it i can download only out from
> "ROOT", but i can not make any administration.

I do not quite understand this question.

Presumably you are caught in the graphical interface X11
with some security functions that I do not know the details of.

The standard procedure I use is to press Ctrl Alt F1
to get a console terminal where I can log in as root
with full privileges for everything.

The next thing would be to edit /etc/inittab

# The default runlevel.
id:3:initdefault:

In Ubuntu you presumably have 5 here.

In some distributions even runlevel 3 starts X11.
In such cases I remove the file /rc3.d/SXXgdm 
(XX is a two digit number)

Different distributions place the file at different places:
/etc/rc3.d/SXXgdm
/etc/init.d/rc3.d/SXXgdm
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/SXXgdm

This way I always log in in terminal mode.

When I want X11 I type startx.

Shift between terminals with Alt F1 to Alt F6.
You may log in as root on some of them and
as a normal user on others. It may be
a good idea to start X11 from a terminal
that is logged in as a normal user. Some
Linux systems do not behave well in case
you run X11 as root (e.g. Mandriva).

Personally I prefer Debian. It does not have
any restrictions and I am allowed to run X11 as 
root on my own responsibility.

In my experience the probability for unexpected 
behaviour is much higher under X11 as compared to
terminal mode. The reason is that soundcards and 
other resources are shared with other programs.
Things like changing the sampling speed with ossmix
may lead to unexpected problems. 

There are only two valid reasons to use X11 as I see 
it.
1) Your videocard is not supported by svgalib.
2) You want to run other programs simultaneously.

X11 works perfectly well nearly always - but one looses
some valuable screen area. Starting stopping and changing
the sound system is not always safe. Presumably some
programs believe one does not do such things and behave
as if changes to the sound system do not exist with a
total lockup of the sound system as a consequence.  


   73

Leif  / SM5BSZ

 

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[linrad] Re: Linrad-02.22

2007-01-21 Thread Francesco Cominelli
Hello Leif,
congrats for new release. I'll test it on my new PC with 
UBUNTU.
I have a question for you, maybe you are much more expert
on UBUNTU.
Do you know how or if is possible to copy or make some other
job on UBUNTU, out from "ROOT" mode?
Now, due my low experience with it i can download only out from
"ROOT", but i can not make any administration.

Many thanks and hope to meet you again.

Francesco,IK2DDR

Il giorno dom, 21/01/2007 alle 11.16 +0100, Leif Asbrink ha scritto:
> Hi All,
> 
> This is a test version for the Linrad network.
> It can be downloaded from
> http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/linroot.htm
> (at the bottom of the page)
> 
> As always there are mirror locations:
> http://g7rau.demon.co.uk/sm5bsz/linuxdsp/linroot.htm
> http://nitehawk.com/sm5bsz/linuxdsp/linroot.htm
> 
> On the Linrad Home Page vers02-21 is still the latest
> version.
> 
> I will be away for two weeks, probably without 
> Internet access (at my favourite Caribbean location) 
> I will use my laptop at the pool-side so I will
> have plenty of time to contemplate any feedback
> arriving before Jan 24.
>  
>  73
> 
> Leif  /  SM5BSZ
> 
> 
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