Re: RACF and Linux for z/Series

2009-06-15 Thread Agblad Tore
Isn't it so that z/OS and z/VM are binary compatible ? asm modules that don't use and specific z/VM z/OS calls can be executed in both OSes. So if you have z/OS maybee you can asm and link there ?? Cordialement / Vriendelijke Groeten / Best Regards / Med Vänliga Hälsningar Tore Agblad

Re: To kick or to clone ... that is the question

2009-06-15 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
Not the point. *I* know where it reboots from, I've tested it. The point was, it's not documented, along with a lot of other behaviors unique to the z platform. As I said, the kickstart doc is Intel-centric, and doesn't cover z very well. That makes it tricky to set up and maintain. I

Re: Mounting a filesystem *really* read-only

2009-06-15 Thread Carsten Otte
Am Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:34:35 +0200 schrieb Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com: One of the problems is that S/390 has no way to sense the R/O setting of the disk, so we can't pass that to the mount (like you have with a CD for example). The only way to tell is by trying to write to the disk.We

Re: RACF and Linux for z/Series

2009-06-15 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 06/15/2009 at 03:05 EDT, Agblad Tore tore.agb...@volvo.com wrote: Isn't it so that z/OS and z/VM are binary compatible ? asm modules that don't use and specific z/VM z/OS calls can be executed in both OSes. So if you have z/OS maybee you can asm and link there ?? Where you actually

Install of db2 v9.5 on sles11

2009-06-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
Folks, Anyone got this to work? Mine appears to run into a GPF and java dump for libdb2ure when creating the instance. Tried several times (somehow a GUI gives the feeling it might work next time) but it now fails consistently. Rob

DASD format with ldl for DIAG conflicts with LVM or not ?

2009-06-15 Thread Agblad Tore
Hi, I have some problems with my memory ;), I have old notes from adding disks to LVM disks and I use CDL (compatible disk layout) when formatting the disk within the Linux. That was SLES9. Now, with SLES10, I want to turn DIAG250 on but that is not possible unless I have formatted with LDL

Re: DASD format with ldl for DIAG conflicts with LVM or not ?

2009-06-15 Thread David Boyes
Now, with SLES10, I want to turn DIAG250 on but that is not possible unless I have formatted with LDL (or CMS format, but that is kind of tricky with a running zLinux) ??? When did that happen? You should NEVER use LDL for minidisks if you can avoid it (and even then, it's discouraged).

Re: DASD format with ldl for DIAG conflicts with LVM or not ?

2009-06-15 Thread Mark Post
On 6/15/2009 at 11:26 AM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: Now, with SLES10, I want to turn DIAG250 on but that is not possible unless I have formatted with LDL (or CMS format, but that is kind of tricky with a running zLinux) ??? When did that happen? You should NEVER use LDL

Re: mount LVM vg and lv

2009-06-15 Thread Sterling James
Don't you need to; - pvscan – vgexport VolGroup00 vgimport VolGroup00 – vgchange VolGroup00 -a y - Please consider the environment before printing this email and any attachments. This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the individual or

Re: RACF and Linux for z/Series

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Harding
I have a collection of routines I could share which (1) applies updates to the source, (2) extracts needed macros from the VM maclibs, (3) constructs the zOS JCL to build a temporary maclib and perform the assembly and (4) submits the job by ftping to the JES RDR. Some tailoring for your

Re: Install of db2 v9.5 on sles11

2009-06-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Rob van der Heijrvdh...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone got this to work?  Mine appears to run into a GPF and java dump for libdb2ure when creating the instance. Tried several times (somehow a GUI gives the feeling it might work next time) but it now fails

Re: To kick or to clone ... that is the question

2009-06-15 Thread John Summerfield
Hall, Ken (GTS) wrote: Not the point. *I* know where it reboots from, I've tested it. The point was, it's not documented, along with a lot of other behaviors unique to the z platform. As I said, the kickstart doc is Intel-centric, and doesn't cover z very well. That makes it tricky to set

Re: Install of db2 v9.5 on sles11

2009-06-15 Thread Mark Post
On 6/15/2009 at 12:44 PM, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com wrote: -snip- PS For those who are forced using a GUI on long distance connections, look into vncserver rather than pure X. Keeping in mind that VNC just makes things less agonizing, but not necessarily pleasant. Mark Post

Re: To kick or to clone ... that is the question

2009-06-15 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
Under zVM, it's a command (IPL 100), that that's where the confusion occurs. At the point where the install is done, the install kernel is booted from the VM reader. The ONLY hint of where the target system will eventually IPL from is where you tell kickstart to install the bootloader. But

Re: To kick or to clone ... that is the question

2009-06-15 Thread William D Carroll
The Console confirmation for RH was opened by me some time back as I recall the reply was it's a VM issue and only occurs if the DASD is not formatted Not DASDFMT but CMS formatted or CPFMTXA if a full pack it's really only looking for a non-blank cyl 0 if I recall so all i write something there

Re: To kick or to clone ... that is the question

2009-06-15 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 06/15/2009 at 01:58 EDT, Hall, Ken (GTS) ken_h...@ml.com wrote: Under zVM, it's a command (IPL 100), that that's where the confusion occurs. At the point where the install is done, the install kernel is booted from the VM reader. The ONLY hint of where the target system will

Re: To kick or to clone ... that is the question

2009-06-15 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
Doesn't happen if the disk is CP or CMS formatted. Doesn't happen if there's a partition table there. Only seems to happen if I've cancelled an in-progress format. I suspect it might happen if I've completed the format, but haven't partitioned yet, although I haven't tested that.

Re: Install of db2 v9.5 on sles11

2009-06-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Mark Postmp...@novell.com wrote: On 6/15/2009 at 12:44 PM, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com wrote: -snip- PS For those who are forced using a GUI on long distance connections, look into vncserver rather than pure X. Keeping in mind that VNC just makes

Re: Install of db2 v9.5 on sles11

2009-06-15 Thread Alan Cox
My round-trip was around 160 ms. When I clicked on a radio button in the DB2 installation GUI, it typically was 20 seconds before it showed the graphical effect of that. With VNC it was less than 2 seconds. Maybe I should have a look at the X11 protocol and see why it was so slow. X is very

Re: Mounting a filesystem *really* read-only

2009-06-15 Thread Richard Troth
I have never understood why the driver does not automatically set the R/O flag when a write operation is rejected. -- R; 2009/6/15 Carsten Otte co...@de.ibm.com: Am Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:34:35 +0200 schrieb Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com: One of the problems is that S/390 has no way

Re: To kick or to clone ... that is the question

2009-06-15 Thread Rick Troth
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Scott Rohling wrote: This is a blatant request for discussion about the pros and cons of using an automated installation (e.g. RH kickstart - Suse autoyast (though maybe this has changed - I'm not current on Suse) - vs cloning a system from a 'golden image'... and I

Re: Mounting a filesystem *really* read-only

2009-06-15 Thread Scott Rohling
Ditto.. especially coming from the wonders of z/VM link modes (e.g. MR seems like what we want here) as we VMers have.. Scott On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: I have never understood why the driver does not automatically set the R/O flag when a write