Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
2010/2/4 van Sleeuwen, Berry berry.vansleeu...@atosorigin.com: We have some oracle guests that have been set to 1G. And they actually need only 300M. The rest is occupied in cache (between 650 and 710M). Be aware! The Oracle SGA lives in Linux page cache, together with in-use programs and

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
O, I didn't know that. I'd expected the reported linux cache to be filesystem cache and as such not directly related to oracle. Berry. -Original Message- Be aware! The Oracle SGA lives in Linux page cache, together with in-use programs and shared libraries. So on Oracle systems it is

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread Sterling James
To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests 2010/2/4 van Sleeuwen, Berry berry.vansleeu...@atosorigin.com: We have some oracle guests that have been set to 1G. And they actually need only 300M. The rest is occupied in cache (between 650 and 710M

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Sterling James ssja...@dstsystems.com wrote: I realize that it would not be a apples to apples comparison, but is there a similar discussion about sizing guests that are running DB2? With STMM on? And the Be ware!s? Does DB2 have instrumentation that can tell

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread Sterling James
LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Sterling James ssja...@dstsystems.com wrote: I realize that it would not be a apples to apples comparison, but is there a similar discussion about sizing

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread David Boyes
Another handy item for Oracle folks is: http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/tech/orion/index.html Allows you to simulate Oracle I/O loads on disk configurations without actually having to install Oracle and find a database big enough to stress test your filesystem configuration and get

A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Carson, Brad
We have a project that is being setup to run on RHEL under z/VM. The sizing parameters for the guests (Oracle DB, and WebLogic) are being sent to us based on intel platform sizing. How do some of you handle the sizing conversion from Intel to IFL's? Are there some rules of thumb, we should

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Agblad Tore
...@labcorp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 14:00 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests We have a project that is being setup to run on RHEL under z/VM. The sizing parameters for the guests (Oracle DB, and WebLogic) are being sent to us based on intel

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Agblad Tore Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests just enough so it doesn't swap, then add 300K perhaps and two small (max 100k) virtual swapdisks and a larger 'real' swapdisk. In your case

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Barton Robinson
First rule of thumb, don't guess. Since Oracle SGA can be anywhere from a few hundred megabytes to 10's of gigabytes, you need to size the server larger than the SGA. If you undersize the server, you WILL have undesirable performance. On intel they size based on low cost of storage and I/O

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread RPN01
If you're using IBM style DASD as your disk storage, you'll want to size the linux image's memory considerably smaller than what is suggested for an Intel processor. The first reason is that you have several levels of cache before the data even gets to the linux image. These layers (controller,

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
and such. Berry. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: donderdag 4 februari 2010 14:17 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests If you're using IBM style DASD as your disk storage, you'll

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Damian Gallagher
. Also try to limit SGA and such. Berry. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: donderdag 4 februari 2010 14:17 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests If you're using IBM style DASD

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Ron Wells
sounds familiar the book tells them to.. From: van Sleeuwen, Berry berry.vansleeu...@atosorigin.com To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 02/04/2010 08:32 AM Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU We have some oracle guests

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Damian Gallagher
Yep - I'd be interested to know which books if they are Oracle publications. -Original Message- From: Ron Wells [mailto:rwe...@agfinance.com] Sent: 04 February 2010 15:02 To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests sounds familiar the book tells them

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Dave Jones
to keep the guest as small as possible. Also try to limit SGA and such. Berry. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: donderdag 4 februari 2010 14:17 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Shockley, Gerard C
Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Carson, Brad Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:01 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests We have a project that is being setup to run on RHEL under z/VM. The sizing