Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-14 Thread Phil Smith III
Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope, I still get the same message. Mary, try right-clicking and saving the document -- that often works for some reason. Or try another browser. Or try it from home... ...phsiii

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-14 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:36:50 -0400 Phil Smith III said: Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope, I still get the same message. Mary, try right-clicking and saving the document -- that often works for some reason. Or try another browser. Or try it from home... I don't remember specific

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Evans, Kevin R
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info What would the goal of your POC be? z/VM does many things well - but running one thing only like one Oracle machine is not advisable. Run multiple Oracle machines in your POC. Be careful when comparing performance; show many virtual machines running Oracle

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Marian Gasparovic
If you know anybody talking Dutch, ask him/her what it means in Dutch, you will be surprised and never forget to smile when you hear SOA :) Marian --- Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the SOA comment...it's a big buzzword around here right now. I am sure that SOA means

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 6/13/07, Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you know anybody talking Dutch, ask him/her what it means in Dutch, you will be surprised and never forget to smile when you hear SOA :) Yep. That's probably why we hear a lot about it at conferences. The leaflets in the hospital

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Steve Mitchell
Topic Subject 06/13/2007 07:55 Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Kielek, Samuel
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info For those of us who don't know anyone who speaks Dutch, would you mind terribly providing some insight? Steve Mitchell Sr Systems Software Specialist Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas (785) 291-8885 'There are no degrees of Honesty-you're either Honest

SOA (was RE: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Steve Mitchell For those of us who don't know anyone who speaks Dutch, would you mind terribly providing some insight? http://www.acronymfinder.com Second page of results for SOA.. -jc-

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kielek, Samuel Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:04 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info Well if you couldn't derive it based on Rob's comment, it is: Seksueel

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Subject 06/13/2007 07:55 Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU If you know anybody talking Dutch, ask him/her what it means in Dutch

SOA (was: Need z/VM-LINUX info)

2007-06-13 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 07:16, Evans, Kevin R wrote: I love the SOA comment...it's a big buzzword around here right now. I am sure that SOA means different things to different people. I've always thought it meant Service Occasionally Available. :-) - MacK. - Edmund R. MacKenty

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Nope, I still get the same message. Mary -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:34 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 4:09 PM, in message [EMAIL

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Link worked OK for me K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:58 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info Nope, I still get the same message. Mary

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread David Stuart
The 'trade press' doesn't help, either. Every article has a different definition. Every 'consultant/analyst' report/insert your favorite color here -paper says everyone should be doing 'it', and if you're not, you're not 'agile', or competitive, or ... Major FUD factor here. And then

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread David Boyes
Every article has a different definition. Every 'consultant/analyst' report/insert your favorite color here -paper says everyone should be doing 'it', and if you're not, you're not 'agile', or competitive, or ... Major FUD factor here. Is it just me, or does no one in the computer science

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread David Boyes
Mary, Try right-clicking on the link, downloading it to your local machine, and opening it locally. You might have the bug in some of the Windows browsers that caused bad parms to be passed to plugins. -- For LINUX-390

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread David Stuart
Sorry Dave, But this is one of my pet peeves, here. I probably should have pulled out my Soapbox On. Is it just me, or does no one in the computer science field get taught how to do basic literature searches for past inventions? Doesn't really matter what is being taught. The problem,

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:13:38 -0700 David Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'trade press' doesn't help, either. Every article has a different definition. Every 'consultant/analyst' report/insert your favorite color here -paper says everyone should be doing 'it', and if you're not, you're

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread David Boyes
But this is one of my pet peeves, here. Doesn't really matter what is being taught. The problem, here, at least, and probably other places, is that management isn't doing basic literature searches, whether or not they know/were taught how. Mine too. I suppose it's not limited to CS -- I

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Yu Safin
I find some of the reasoning in this thread very interesting. We are in the middle of moving a lot of our Oracle out of AIX and SUN to zVM/Linux. This was done to improve RAS and to reduce Oracle-batch turn-around time. We use RAC not only to improve availability but also to separate batch from

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread David Kreuter
actually I find linux rock solid. 200 servers; production 1+ year; no linux software outages. Nuthin' wrong with that! David -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Yu Safin Sent: Wed 6/13/2007 1:19 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info I

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread David Boyes
We are now contemplating Oracle under zOS (we have DB2) for those applications that require even better availability. When you think about it, zOS is rock solid compared to Linux. It better be. There's certainly been a bunch of code written to make sure that it is. SOA, which is being

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Yu Safin
On 6/13/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually I find linux rock solid. 200 servers; production 1+ year; no linux software outages. Nuthin' wrong with that! David David, No disagreement here. We have been running Linux for z-Series for over two years without a single incident.

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Shouldn't you have had a Soapbox On/ there ? K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Stuart Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:45 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info Sorry Dave, But this is one of my

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info Link worked OK for me K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:58 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info Nope

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Never mind, I went to the web site and was able to find it without the link. I was then able to open it. Thanks! Mary :-) -Original Message- From: Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:22 PM To: 'Linux on 390 Port' Subject: RE: Need z/VM-LINUX info Hmm, that's

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Dave Jones
“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it” George Santayana Evans, Kevin R wrote: Is it just me, or does no one in the computer science field get taught how to do basic literature searches for past inventions? Doesn't really matter what is being taught. The

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:47:53 -0500 Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it” George Santayana History repeats itself, it has to as nobody is listening -- For

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-13 Thread David Boyes
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it George Santayana And do an even worse job at making the same mistakes. *grump* -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-12 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Hi Everyone, We are doing research to see if moving some/all of our Oracle data bases from z/OS (1.4 or 1.7) to LINUX on a z/VM IFL would be a good move. We will be moving toward SOA and I need some strong support to recommend this verses going to another platform such as UNIX or Windows. I have

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-12 Thread Richards.Bob
consolidations ourselves. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:30 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Need z/VM-LINUX info Hi Everyone, We are doing research to see

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-12 Thread Neale Ferguson
Take a look at the following presentations: DGTIC - http://www.linuxvm.org/present/SHARE108/S9230.pdf Nationwide - http://www.linuxvm.org/present/SHARE107/S9212jv.pdf Also, the latest edition of z/Journal has an article on DGTIC and its migration of Oracle databases. Neale On Tue, 2007-06-12 at

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-12 Thread David Kreuter
USMEPCOM Sent: Tue 6/12/2007 7:30 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Need z/VM-LINUX info Hi Everyone, We are doing research to see if moving some/all of our Oracle data bases from z/OS (1.4 or 1.7) to LINUX on a z/VM IFL would be a good move. We will be moving toward SOA and I need some strong

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-12 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
. Thanks everyone, Mary -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richards.Bob Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:08 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info Mary, It has been done quite successfully by numerous people

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-12 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
12, 2007 8:10 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info Take a look at the following presentations: DGTIC - http://www.linuxvm.org/present/SHARE108/S9230.pdf Nationwide - http://www.linuxvm.org/present/SHARE107/S9212jv.pdf Also, the latest edition of z/Journal has an article

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-12 Thread Mark Post
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 4:09 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neale, Do you happen to have a copy of the Nationwide document? I get a message that the file is damaged and could not be repaired when I click on the link. Try it again. I

Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info

2007-06-12 Thread David Kreuter
of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Tue 6/12/2007 3:37 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info Thanks for your input everyone. Here are some answers to your questions. The driving forces here are pushing SOA. (I'm still trying to define what this means vs. our current