Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-20 Thread Mark Post
On 12/19/2014 at 02:54 PM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: So during install I don't see a way to add 3 disks to btrfs without first creating an LVM volume group. I see no way to run this command, btrfs device add dev1 dev2 /path/to/filesystem during install. I haven't had the

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-19 Thread Linker Harley - hlinke
. Harley -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Offer Baruch Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLES12 / partitioning Hi There is a good reason to split some directories. /home if set on / fs

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-19 Thread Mark Pace
sles003:~ df -Ht df: option requires an argument -- 't' Try 'df --help' for more information. sles003:~ df -H Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/system-root 5.7G 2.5G 3.0G 46% / devtmpfs 460M 8.2k 460M 1% /dev tmpfs467M

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 18 December 2014 at 20:26, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote: On 12/18/2014 at 09:32 AM, Levy, Alan al...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote: Does it make sense in just setting up one mod 29 (32000+ cylinders, app 21G) and let the btrfs use the whole thing instead of breaking it up into smaller pieces

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-19 Thread Mark Post
On 12/19/2014 at 09:46 AM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: sles003:~ df -Ht df: option requires an argument -- 't' Try 'df --help' for more information. sles003:~ df -H Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/system-root 5.7G 2.5G 3.0G 46% /

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-19 Thread Mark Pace
I'm going back and putting / in a partition of it's own. And will then try to add the other 3 disks to a btrfs. So during install I don't see a way to add 3 disks to btrfs without first creating an LVM volume group. I see no way to run this command, btrfs device add dev1 dev2 /path/to/filesystem

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-18 Thread Levy, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:10 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLES12 / partitioning On 12/17/2014 at 09:41 AM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: With btrfs now the default file system on sles12, is there a new recommended way to layout DASD devices? I would think

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-18 Thread Mark Pace
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLES12 / partitioning On 12/17/2014 at 09:41 AM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: With btrfs now the default file system on sles12, is there a new recommended way to layout DASD devices? I would think if you had really big 3390 devices that btrfs makes sense

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-18 Thread Rick Troth
On 12/17/2014 10:16 AM, Michael MacIsaac wrote: You might also consider TMPFS for /tmp. It's much faster if you don't need huge /tmp capacity or persistence. At one point, we started to recommend this in The Virtualization Cookbook. The reply was to avoid it because tmpfs costs you memory

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-18 Thread Mark Post
On 12/18/2014 at 09:54 AM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: Playing around with the Installer and the DASD layout I found the setting to use a LVM based btrfs. This created a partition with ext2 for the /boot/zipl and then created a partition for LVM and btrfs for the root. I then

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-18 Thread Mark Post
On 12/18/2014 at 09:32 AM, Levy, Alan al...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote: Does it make sense in just setting up one mod 29 (32000+ cylinders, app 21G) and let the btrfs use the whole thing instead of breaking it up into smaller pieces (var, opt, home, etc) ? Without anything to back this up, my

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-18 Thread Offer Baruch
Hi There is a good reason to split some directories. /home if set on / fs then any user can fill up your / fs and fail the server. /var might fill up very quickly in different logging bursts or application errors or loops and fail the entire server. No matter how much free space its got Same for

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-17 Thread Mark Pace
With btrfs now the default file system on sles12, is there a new recommended way to layout DASD devices? I would think if you had really big 3390 devices that btrfs makes sense. But still working with mod-9s it doesn't seem like the right fit. I'm still putting / on a minidisk and then creating a

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-17 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Mark, With btrfs now the default file system on sles12, is there a new recommended way to layout DASD devices? Good question. I have also been thinking of the Copy On Write (COW) feature. So a follow-up question might be: How do I utilize the cloning and COW features of btrfs? . With

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-17 Thread Rick Troth
On 12/17/2014 09:41 AM, Mark Pace wrote: With btrfs now the default file system on sles12, is there a new recommended way to layout DASD devices? As long as you're using normal LVM, there is no need to change your layout. I would think if you had really big 3390 devices that btrfs makes

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-17 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Rick, You might also consider TMPFS for /tmp. It's much faster if you don't need huge /tmp capacity or persistence. At one point, we started to recommend this in The Virtualization Cookbook. The reply was to avoid it because tmpfs costs you memory which is much more valuable on z than disk.

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-17 Thread Mark Post
On 12/17/2014 at 09:41 AM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: With btrfs now the default file system on sles12, is there a new recommended way to layout DASD devices? I would think if you had really big 3390 devices that btrfs makes sense. But still working with mod-9s it doesn't seem

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-17 Thread Mark Post
On 12/17/2014 at 10:09 AM, Rick Troth ri...@velocitysoftware.com wrote: Looks fine, Mark. Isolating root (or at least /boot) is a great idea. In the case of btrfs, having /boot/zipl a separate file system which is _not_ btrfs is required on System z. The zipl command and IPL code get

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-12-17 Thread Mark Post
On 12/17/2014 at 10:16 AM, Michael MacIsaac mike99...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, You might also consider TMPFS for /tmp. It's much faster if you don't need huge /tmp capacity or persistence. At one point, we started to recommend this in The Virtualization Cookbook. The reply was to avoid it

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-11-19 Thread Levy, Alan
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLES12 / partitioning On 11/12/2014 at 08:46 AM, Levy, Alan al...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote: Just starting to test with sles12. My colleagues and I are trying to find a good way of setting up the mount points. In the past, we have used the following methodology (on a mod

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-11-19 Thread Mark Post
On 11/19/2014 at 07:43 AM, Levy, Alan al...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote: During the install, I removed /var, /opt/ ,tmp and /home from the btrfs (dasda). I then created these partitions on their own device (dasdb thru dasde). When I log in, via maintenance mode due to the failed dependency

Re: SLES12 / partitioning

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Post
On 11/12/2014 at 08:46 AM, Levy, Alan al...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote: Just starting to test with sles12. My colleagues and I are trying to find a good way of setting up the mount points. In the past, we have used the following methodology (on a mod-9): 191 - profile exec 292 - 1500 cyl/1G

SLES12 / partitioning

2014-11-12 Thread Levy, Alan
Just starting to test with sles12. My colleagues and I are trying to find a good way of setting up the mount points. In the past, we have used the following methodology (on a mod-9): 191 - profile exec 292 - 1500 cyl/1G / 293 - 730 cyl/.5G swap 294 - 4785 cyl/3.3G