Operations
I found the bootshell.cc source (v1.3). Are there any current binaries?
Thanks,
Craig
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On Mer, 2004-11-17 at 21:52, Craig Kittendorf wrote:
> Newbie question: Is there a way to allow Operations to shutdown without
> giving them root's password?
One common way people do this is to add a "shutdown" user whose password
is known to operations staff and whose shell is /sbin/shutdown (or
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No, it's not a VM solution. It's a c program:
Let me know if you haven't found it and I can send you a copy.
Marcy Cortes
Shutdown by Operations
No VM, costs to much. SuSE Linux 7.2 in one LPAR.
Thanks,
Craig
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On Nov 17, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Little, Chris wrote:
>> From /etc/sudoers
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> operator ALL= (root)NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown
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Oh. Yeah. Totally forgot about sud
I found the bootshell.cc source (v1.3). Are there any current binaries?
Thanks,
Craig
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No, it has nothing to do with VM at all.
Mark Post
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Is that a VM solution? 'cuz we
So you could do the bootshell thing and even start that on the HMC
automagically.
Rob
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Craig Kittendorf
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Is that a VM solution? 'cuz we can't afford VM.
Thanks,
Craig
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:44:14 -0500, Alan Altmark
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> Linux will register for the LPAR deactivation signal just as it does on
> VM.
Yes, except they're on SuSE 7.2 and that did not have the patch in.
But it is cool to have z/VM virtualize the exact hardware feature.
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On Wednesday, 11/17/2004 at 04:15 CST, Adam Thornton
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> On Nov 17, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Craig Kittendorf wrote:
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> > SuSE Linux 7.2 and no VM.
> >
> Oh.
>
> Then, no, not that I know of, unless you twiddle init so that root is
> *always* logged in at the console. Which woul
Is that a VM solution? 'cuz we can't afford VM.
Thanks,
Craig
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Or, use Mike
t. I wouldn't manage the box until
that was remedied.
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:15:26 -0600, Adam Thornton
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We created an operator user id:
We prohibit operator from using SSH so the operator cannot logon other than
from the HMC system console.
We created the following entry in /etc/sudoers:
operator linuxd01=NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown
and the following in /home/operator/.profile
alias stop_system_now='
On Nov 17, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Little, Chris wrote:
From /etc/sudoers
operator ALL= (root)NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown
Oh. Yeah. Totally forgot about sudo, I did.
Adam
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> Then, no, not that I know of, unless you twiddle init so that root is
> *always* logged in at the console. Which would sort of defeat the
> purpose of not giving them the root password.
Pardon? Most shops have restri
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Or, use Mike Kershaw's bootshell program. That way, you don't even have
to
create local userids for them on the system.
Mark
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Use SUDO and add the operations id to the /etc/sudoers file with the
appropriate command.
Marcy Cortes
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>From /etc/sudoers
operator ALL= (root)NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown
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Hi All,
Newbie question: Is there a way to al
On Nov 17, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Craig Kittendorf wrote:
SuSE Linux 7.2 and no VM.
Oh.
Then, no, not that I know of, unless you twiddle init so that root is
*always* logged in at the console. Which would sort of defeat the
purpose of not giving them the root password.
Adam
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No VM, costs to much. SuSE Linux 7.2 in one LPAR.
Thanks,
Craig
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No VM, costs to much. SuSE Linux 7.2 in one LPAR.
Thanks,
Craig
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Are you running under
SuSE Linux 7.2 and no VM.
Thanks,
Craig
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On Nov 17, 2004, at 3:52 PM, Craig Kittendorf
Are you running under VM? If so, what level. What level of Linux?
For most modern kernels and z/VM systems you can use the VM command:
"SIGNAL SHUTDOWN WITHIN " from a privileged virtual
machine (like the operator). Use HELP CP SIGNAL from CMS to get details
on the command and its options.
On Nov 17, 2004, at 3:52 PM, Craig Kittendorf wrote:
Newbie question: Is there a way to allow Operations to shutdown without
giving them root's password?
The best way is to use a recent Linux that knows about SIGNAL SHUTDOWN
(Debian Sarge, for instance), assuming you also have a recent z/VM that
kn
Hi All,
Newbie question: Is there a way to allow Operations to shutdown without
giving them root's password?
Thanks
Craig
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