On Saturday, 02/28/2004 at 10:11 EST, Arty Ecock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Can those folks running z/VM and Linux on IFL engines even license the
IBM C/C++ compiler.
As I and others have said here before, Arty, this is a business and
everything is negotiable. While the IBM C/C++ compiler for
Hi,
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:29:57 -0500 David Boyes said:
Problem is that it's not helpful if you don't have a C compiler and a lot of
shops that are using VM only to support Linux aren't going to license the
C/C++ compiler just to write management apps.
Can those folks running z/VM and Linux
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Subject: Re: Use of DIrmaint
Hi,
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:29:57 -0500 David Boyes said:
Problem is that it's not helpful if you don't have a C compiler and a lot
of
shops that are using VM only to support Linux aren't going to license the
C/C++ compiler just to write
Why would you want a CMS tool to access SMAPI when SMAPI is mostly (at
least it seems to be to me) a programmable extension of Dirmaint? Why
not just use Dirmaint, that is what SMAPI does in the end.
If...
...you've ever had to sit there and go fix/document a 4,400 line EXEC2
exec
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From: Coffin Michael C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:35 AM
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I'm confused by the RPC+LE remark. What problems have you
encountered?
It's a two part problem -- neither is directly the fault of SMAPI, but both
contribute to making SMAPI difficult to use in normal, mainstream life.
1) Building an application to use the SMAPI is fairly complicated -- the
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Alan Altmark wrote:
I'm confused by the RPC+LE remark. What problems have you encountered?
We've written many test programs in C on CMS using the SMAPI RPC calls.
What David said. But also ...
Dr. Boyes presents a good summary. Let me add two important points
about
As David mentioned, a reference C program (with source!)
would go a long way towards adoption of SMAPI.
In SMAPI's defence, there is a lot of sample code in the docs (which are
extensive).
Problem is that it's not helpful if you don't have a C compiler and a lot of
shops that are using VM
On Thursday 26 February 2004 22:42, Alan Altmark wrote:
I'm not sure there's a whole lot more I can say. There are two types of
customers: Those that want to spend the money to write their own system
management tools, and those who would rather buy them. I think that, in
the Big Picture,
On Thursday, 02/26/2004 at 09:05 EST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In any case, I know Alan and Chris Casey read this list. Let's let
them perk on it a bit and see what pours forth.
I'm not sure there's a whole lot more I can say. There are two types of
customers: Those that want to
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 07:05:38PM -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
Problem is that it's not helpful if you don't have a C compiler
and a lot of
shops that are using VM only to support Linux aren't going to license the
C/C++ compiler just to write management apps.
There are other
As David mentioned, a reference C program (with source!)
would go a long way towards adoption of SMAPI.
In SMAPI's defence, there is a lot of sample code in the docs (which are
extensive).
Problem is that it's not helpful if you don't have a C compiler and a lot of
shops that are using
Why would you want a CMS tool to access SMAPI when SMAPI is mostly (at
least it seems to be to me) a programmable extension of Dirmaint? Why
not just use Dirmaint, that is what SMAPI does in the end.
Two main reasons: 1) not everyone uses DIRMAINT for user and system
management, and 2
Why would you want a CMS tool to access SMAPI when SMAPI is mostly (at
least it seems to be to me) a programmable extension of Dirmaint? Why
not just use Dirmaint, that is what SMAPI does in the end.
- Jason Herne
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 19:37, David Boyes wrote:
I'm confused by the RPC+LE
On Monday, 02/23/2004 at 12:03 EST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In the last year or so, DIRM has improved a LOT (thanks, Les!) now that
VM
is getting some additional development funds. The VMSM interfaces that
Alan
suggested are a workable alternative to SRPI, but are *extremely*
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From: Jason Herne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:39 AM
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Subject: Use of DIrmaint
Hello all,
I represent a team of people working
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Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:39 AM
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Subject: Use of DIrmaint
Hello all,
I represent a team of people working on a project to help make z/VM
easier to administer. One of our current problems is whether or not to make
use of Dirmaint. We would
it to
do.
/Thomas Kern
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From: Jason Herne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 04:39
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Subject: Use of DIrmaint
Hello all,
I represent a team of people working on a project to
help make z/VM
easier
Has anyone used DRM from the VM Downloads site?
Most of what I *really* want in a directory maintenance program is,
frankly, not having to manually calculate minidisk extents.
Adam
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Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:39 AM
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Subject: Use of DIrmaint
Hello all,
I represent a team of people working on a project to help make
z/VM
easier to administer. One of our current problems is whether or not to
make
use of Dirmaint. We would
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Is there any way to use Dirmaint with a monolithic directory structure?
- Jason Herne
On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 16:46, Dennis Wicks wrote:
Greetings;
Yes, I use it and have been using it for about five years.
What I like about it is that I can still use xedit directxa
as I have for years
If you have a monolithic USER DIRECT and want to use it with DIRMAINT, just
change the name to USER INPUT and put it on DIRMAINT's 1DF disk and then
restart DIRMAINT. Upon start up DIRMAINT will convert it to its internal
form.
Any time later if you need the monolithic form again issue a DIRM
Hello all,
I represent a team of people working on a project to help make z/VM
easier to administer. One of our current problems is whether or not to
make use of Dirmaint. We would like to get a feel for how many people
like/use Dirmaint. If everyone could please respond and let me
On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 03:39, Jason Herne wrote:
I represent a team of people working on a project to help make z/VM
easier to administer. One of our current problems is whether or not to
make use of Dirmaint. We would like to get a feel for how many people
like/use Dirmaint
VM:Secure is much easier to use.
Larry
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From: Jason Herne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 04:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Use of DIrmaint
Hello all,
I represent a team of people working on a project to help make z/VM
easier
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