Re: IPL using LOADPARM bypasses SALIPL screen

2017-02-15 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 02/15/2017 at 09:47 GMT, William Norton/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS wrote: > The leading zeros are ignored. 9, 09, 009, or 0009 would have worked > equally well had his console been at 9 instead of 20. The issue is that SAPL does not treat the LOADPARM is a requirement. You would

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
For another "bizarre" answer, this path might work: 1. Obtain z86VM (beta) from Mantissa Corporation; 2. Obtain Microsoft Windows from Microsoft; 3. Install and run Microsoft Windows on z86VM on z/VM; 4. Obtain Oracle Database for Windows from Oracle; 5. Install and run Oracle Database for

Making the world safe for ISPF

2017-02-15 Thread Paul Flint
Dear Tim Sipples, You are absolutely correct about Oracle running in a zOS guest... Thank you for a truly bizzare answer! The appliance option pales in comparison, but is also valid. Many thanks for your thoughts. Sincerely, Paul On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, Timothy Sipples wrote: Date: Wed, 15

Re: Some General Linux on z questions

2017-02-15 Thread Mike Beer
There is some documentation on KVM and/vs z/VM: https://share.confex.com/share/123/webprogram/Handout/Session15752/KVM-for-zVM-lovers-V2-ShareDesign.pdf and there is redbook: "Getting Started with KVM for IBM z Systems" http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248332.html?Open -- maybe that as

Some General Linux on z questions

2017-02-15 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, I am starting to experiment with linux on z, and I have some questions. I currently have Ubuntu installed in an LPAR. I have added kvm to this installation, and I can install guest operating systems. I also have the KVM for z, which I downloaded from ShopzSeries. Is there any advantage or

Re: Some General Linux on z questions

2017-02-15 Thread Paul Flint
Greetings GADI_B, A good web based remote management tool for Linux VMs is Webmin: (http://www.webmin.com/) It may not be your ultimate choice but it is a painless beginning. Regards, Paul Flint On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, גדי בן אבי wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:41:38 + From: גדי בן אבי

Re: EPEL

2017-02-15 Thread Neale Ferguson
They are from the official repo with a few extra packages from us. In general the only hooks we had to create were to add s390x to ExclusiveArch statements and to force it to use golang instead of gcc-go. There are a few mock —install hooks as not all BuildRequires are complete. On 2/15/17, 9:43

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-15 Thread David Boyes
> Am I dreaming to assume that Oracle would actually=20 support 7 on a current > z/VM? Probably not. I'm sure if you a) managed to find a copy, and b) threw large bales of cash at them, they'd find a way, but Oracle 7 was long, long ago. I doubt any modern application would be able to connect

Re: IPL using LOADPARM bypasses SALIPL screen

2017-02-15 Thread Harley Linker
I haven't started on 6.4 yet but found this page, https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSB27U_6.4.0/com.ibm.zvm.v640.hcpa7/iplsec.htm. I don't know if it matters but the page shows a 'set machine esa' command just before the IPL command. Harley -Original Message- From: Linux

Re: IPL using LOADPARM bypasses SALIPL screen

2017-02-15 Thread William Norton
What does QUERY VIRTUAL CONSOLE return ? My guess is that your console isn't really at 9 so SAPL doesn't appear, but is at an address specified in your system configuration file so you get the prompts. Bill Norton From: "Will, Chris" To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date:

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-15 Thread Paul Flint
Greetings David, Once again wise words from the "SNA Gateway"... :^) I gotta say that the option Tim Sipples, proposed of running Oracle in a zOS guest under VM is a bit more practical than running Oracle 7, I just find it facinating that Oracle appears to have abandoned VM, but not MVS.

Killer penguins?!

2017-02-15 Thread Phil Smith III
My wife reports that last night she dreamed that she was in Australia and was attacked by thousands of penguins. I asked if they were talking, and she said no, they were silent-so not just killer penguins, *NINJA* killer penguins!!! Is there a support group for this?

Re: Some General Linux on z questions

2017-02-15 Thread Rick Troth
On 02/15/2017 06:41 AM, גדי בן אבי wrote: > I currently have Ubuntu installed in an LPAR. > I have added kvm to this installation, and I can install guest operating > systems. nice > I also have the KVM for z, which I downloaded from ShopzSeries. What differences do you find between "KVM for

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-15 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
We tested Oracle on z/VM at my former customer's site; this must have been version 5.x - the time frame in the end 199x years. We had to drop it, because performance was so bad. The problem was that the different Oracle processes that make up the Oracle database were implemented as different VM

Re: Some General Linux on z questions

2017-02-15 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
Hello, On 15 February 2017 at 11:41, גדי בן אבי wrote: > Hi, > > I am starting to experiment with linux on z, and I have some questions. > > I currently have Ubuntu installed in an LPAR. > I have added kvm to this installation, and I can install guest operating > systems. > >

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-15 Thread Duerbusch, Tom
Dreaming... When Oracle was supported under VM, it was VM/SP. It was 24 bit code. I also want to say it was in 370 mode which, I think, has long since bit the dust in the CMS world. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:27 AM, David Boyes wrote: > >

Re: IPL using LOADPARM bypasses SALIPL screen

2017-02-15 Thread William Norton
The leading zeros are ignored. 9, 09, 009, or 0009 would have worked equally well had his console been at 9 instead of 20. Bill From: Karl Kingston To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 02/15/2017 02:58 PM Subject:Re: IPL using LOADPARM bypasses SALIPL

Re: Killer penguins?!

2017-02-15 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
Hi Phil, How about http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150318-ninja-penguin-tops-amazing-birds. "The animal in my photos certainly looks healthy, not underweight, and was behaving normally, although seemed to be getting extra attention from some other individuals in the colony," he adds. So

Re: IPL using LOADPARM bypasses SALIPL screen

2017-02-15 Thread Will, Chris
Thanks for the help. It turned out the directory entry generated by the 2nd level install for an SSI had the console set to 0020 and I have always used 0009 for the directory entries I create. Chris Will Systems Software (313) 549-9729 Cell cw...@bcbsm.com -Original Message- From:

Re: IPL using LOADPARM bypasses SALIPL screen

2017-02-15 Thread Karl Kingston
Looking back at the original post, I see he's using LOADPARM 009. Should it be LOADPARM 0009 like in my example? From: Karl Kingston To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 02/15/2017 02:38 PM Subject:Re: IPL using LOADPARM bypasses SALIPL screen Sent by:

Re: Killer penguins?!

2017-02-15 Thread Rick Troth
On 02/15/2017 01:31 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: > Is there a support group for this? You have arrived. One by one the penguins steal my sanity. BT, DT, got the tee-shirt (c/o M Post). Not giving it up! -- R; <>< -- For

Re: Killer penguins?!

2017-02-15 Thread Dave Jones
I think the more immediate question would be what did she eat last night before going to bed? That should probably be avoided in the future DJ On 02/15/2017 12:31 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: > My wife reports that last night she dreamed that she was in Australia and > was attacked by

Re: IPL using LOADPARM bypasses SALIPL screen

2017-02-15 Thread Karl Kingston
IPL cuu LOADPARM 0009 get me an SAPL screen (this is with z/VM 6.3) From: William Norton To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 02/15/2017 02:25 PM Subject:Re: IPL using LOADPARM bypasses SALIPL screen Sent by:Linux on 390 Port

Re: High Kernel CPU usage z/vm 6.3 redhat 7.3

2017-02-15 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Sheldon, A quick 'google' found this hit: http://serverfault.com/questions/385360/mysql-high-sy-kernel-cpu-time -Mike M On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Sheldon Davis wrote: > Hi > > We are in the process installing new z/Linux guests and are experiencing > high

High Kernel CPU usage z/vm 6.3 redhat 7.3

2017-02-15 Thread Sheldon Davis
Hi We are in the process installing new z/Linux guests and are experiencing high kernel CPU usage. The guests run on XFS file system Thanks in advance for any advice -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: EPEL

2017-02-15 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:55:15 + Neale Ferguson wrote: > The EPEL for ClefOS (CentOS) 7 is now available at > http://download.sinenomine.net/clefos/epel7/ > > There are around 13,000 (binary) packages for Linux on z along with > their source in this repository: > > s390x: