Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-16 Thread Paul Flint
@VM.MARIST.EDU> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0 I think that would be a problem. Indeed these solutions will not work when the boot phase is stuck in INITRD. We have had boot problems in the past, either because of an error in /etc/fstab or because of boo

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-16 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
, Berry van Sleeuwen -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick Troth Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:24 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0 > sudo nor pmrun address the issue of the &quo

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-16 Thread Paul Flint
Dear Rick, One slight embellishment... On Wed, 16 Aug 2017, Rick Troth wrote: Conflicting requirements between your security people and your business continuity people. Lock them in a room together and let them fight it out. Either sell tickets or televise (pay-per-view :^) Kindest

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-16 Thread Rick Troth
On 08/16/2017 12:04 PM, Donald Russell wrote: > Our security model does not allow sudo. Instead we use something called > pmrun which requires authentication across a network. (Don't get me started > on the pitfalls of that) PBRUN at least fits the model of "don't sign on as root - sign on as

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-16 Thread Donald Russell
Thanks Paul, Our security model does not allow sudo. Instead we use something called pmrun which requires authentication across a network. (Don't get me started on the pitfalls of that) sudo nor pmrun address the issue of the "*Enter root password for maintenance, or CTL-D to continue*" prompt

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-16 Thread Tracy Dean
> How/what do I have to configure so logging onto the 3270 console gets me > logged into root in a bash shell automatically? Similar question for > sometimes the system has problems coming up and it's prompting for "Enter > root password or CTL-D to continue". How can that be bypassed so it just

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-16 Thread Paul Flint
Greetings Donald, The model that many debian packages has preferred over the years is that of a "rootless" security model. In this configuration you must log in as a user and then "sudo" to root. In order to do this you must be in the sudoers group or be explicitly mentioned in

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 16 August 2017 at 00:47, Rick Troth wrote: > > It's arguable that having to enter a password at a "login:" prompt would > actually be /less/ secure. > Indeed. It can be argued, and I did that a lot :-) A lot of the security rituals we follow were created for problems that

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-16 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
login root on 3270 console ttyS0 >>> On 8/15/2017 at 06:17 PM, Donald Russell <russell@gmail.com> wrote: > I run a SLES 11 (for emergency recovery) and RHEL 7 system on zVM > 6.3/6.4 > > Sysadmins can LOGON BY to get to the zLinux console if necessary. > > H

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-15 Thread Donald Russell
Thanks Mark, and others for the suggestions. I'll check those out. Cheers, Don On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 15:28 Mark Post wrote: > >>> On 8/15/2017 at 06:17 PM, Donald Russell > wrote: > > I run a SLES 11 (for emergency recovery) and RHEL 7 system on

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-15 Thread Scott Rohling
​Not that most users have it - but those with Class C have the ability to talk to all the zLinux guests via CP SEND. So in a sense it is a console just sitting there, but only those with class C can get in the room. This privilege is hopefully covered by security policy elsewhere, ensuring the

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-15 Thread Rick Troth
On 8/15/2017 at 06:17 PM, Donald Russell wrote: >> I run a SLES 11 (for emergency recovery) and RHEL 7 system on zVM 6.3/6.4 >> >> Sysadmins can LOGON BY to get to the zLinux console if necessary. >> >> How/what do I have to configure so logging onto the 3270 console gets

Re: Auto login root on 3270 console ttyS0

2017-08-15 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/15/2017 at 06:17 PM, Donald Russell wrote: > I run a SLES 11 (for emergency recovery) and RHEL 7 system on zVM 6.3/6.4 > > Sysadmins can LOGON BY to get to the zLinux console if necessary. > > How/what do I have to configure so logging onto the 3270 console gets