Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-30 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! Actually yes. I definitely agree. - Gregg C Levine gregg.drw...@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:14 PM Scott Rohling wrote: > > I believe those 'vendors' just became competitors ... in which case upset > isn't necessarily a

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-30 Thread Scott Rohling
I believe those 'vendors' just became competitors ... in which case upset isn't necessarily a bad state to have them in? Scott Rohling On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:26 PM Gregg Levine wrote: > Hello! > And the CNCBC supplied money news for the 11AM news today included a > friendly reporting on

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-29 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! And the CNCBC supplied money news for the 11AM news today included a friendly reporting on the whole business. Also one on Red Hat. And their opinion on why IBM wanted to buy (is buying, has already bought, etc) Red Hat. Ideally I agree with all of you that it is going to cause some upset

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-29 Thread John Campbell
And "The Register" plays catch-up: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/28/ibm_redhat_acquisition/ Mixed feelings? -soup On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 3:20 PM Neale Ferguson wrote: > >

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-29 Thread John Campbell
Look, I know this is "the" mainframe list for Linux. (chuckles) Let us not forget that Linux works rather nicely on pSeries, and, in fact, is pretty competent there. IIRC, Linux was able to handle changes to memory size before AIX could. Linux, without a specific buncha patches isn't as "real

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-29 Thread David Boyes
On 10/29/18, 11:37 AM, "Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Mark Post" wrote: > I don't think that matches the reality of the market place, however, > considering that Red Hat's market share with mainframe customers has been > _far_ less than 50%. If you limit it to Z, true. I was thinking of the

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-29 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 10/28/2018 at 09:00 PM, David Boyes wrote: -snip- > most of those traditional IBM customers preferred Red Hat because > they didn't have to think about it too much because it was like all their > other software license agreements. I don't think that matches the reality of the market

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-29 Thread David Boyes
On 10/28/18, 6:42 PM, "Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Harder, Pieter" wrote: > In the past IBM has been extremely reluctant to outright own a Linux distro. > Likely for fear of alienating the Linux people by corporate behaviour. Why > now? My guess is that Red Hat probably is the most

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-29 Thread Bfishing
Lets just hope that the blue washing doesn't flush the red tide with a big Wave! Hopefully this winds up really helping z focused hybrid clouds however noting that Red Hat licensing seems to favor x86 sales like much of IBM's software portfolio does. - And it does make some sense when you look at

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-28 Thread Harder, Pieter
In the past IBM has been extremely reluctant to outright own a Linux distro. Likely for fear of alienating the Linux people by corporate behaviour. Why now? Is this a preventive strike to prevent somebody else from owning Red Hat? Microsoft seems to be on the prowl to buy open source stuff and

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-28 Thread David L. Craig
On 18Oct28:1919+, Neale Ferguson wrote: > https://newsroom.ibm.com/2018-10-28-IBM-To-Acquire-Red-Hat-Completely-Changing-The-Cloud-Landscape-And-Becoming-Worlds-1-Hybrid-Cloud-Provider On the other hand, it IS Sunday... -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-28 Thread Phil Tully
WOW Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Mark Post wrote: On 10/28/2018 at 03:19 PM, Neale Ferguson wrote: >> https://newsroom.ibm.com/2018-10-28-IBM-To-Acquire-Red-Hat-Completely-Changin >> g-The-Cloud-Landscape-And-Becoming-Worlds-1-Hybrid-Cloud-Provider > > I wonder how

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-28 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 10/28/2018 at 03:19 PM, Neale Ferguson wrote: > https://newsroom.ibm.com/2018-10-28-IBM-To-Acquire-Red-Hat-Completely-Changin > g-The-Cloud-Landscape-And-Becoming-Worlds-1-Hybrid-Cloud-Provider I wonder how this is all going to play out in the long run. I can't imagine SUSE or

Re: I checked that it's not April 1

2018-10-28 Thread Martha M McConaghy
In the immortal words of Frank Barone.Holy Crap! At least now, we might get better RHEL support on Z. Martha On 10/28/2018 3:19 PM, Neale Ferguson wrote: