Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Philipp
Excerpts from Ralf Mardorf's message of 2010-04-18 11:01:41 +0200: Ok Marije, Arnold, Philipp :) programs don't depend to the development files, so I perceive that they should be separated. Today for 64 Studio 3.0-beta3 = Ubuntu Hardy we do have a package jackd including /usr/bin/jackd.

Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread rosea.grammostola
On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 12:10 +0200, Stéphane LETZ wrote: At Grame, we started working on JACK (jack1 at that time) in 2003 and our first commitment was to port the C code base on OSX. Even if the result was working, we rapidly felt that the C code base was not flexible enough to evolve in

Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:09:53AM +0200, Philipp wrote: I don't really know, nor care, about debian specific packaging stuff. What I know is that it has a record of being broken. Stop that FUD. Ok, a lot was broken until last year, but I fixed everything and worked closely together with

Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Philipp wrote: Excerpts from Ralf Mardorf's message of 2010-04-18 11:01:41 +0200: Ok Marije, Arnold, Philipp :) programs don't depend to the development files, so I perceive that they should be separated. Today for 64 Studio 3.0-beta3 = Ubuntu Hardy we do have a package jackd

Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Adrian Knoth wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:09:53AM +0200, Philipp wrote: I don't really know, nor care, about debian specific packaging stuff. What I know is that it has a record of being broken. Stop that FUD. Ok, a lot was broken until last year, but I fixed everything and

Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Philipp
Excerpts from Adrian Knoth's message of 2010-04-18 11:25:57 +0200: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:09:53AM +0200, Philipp wrote: I don't really know, nor care, about debian specific packaging stuff. What I know is that it has a record of being broken. Stop that FUD. Ok, a lot was broken until

Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Philipp wrote: What was the topic again? :D I've sent what I guess the topic should be 3 minutes before you sent your mail. Again. IMO the topic should be the free choice between JACK1 and JACK2. It's unimportant if there is one package or if there are 5 packages for each JACK. JACK3, DBUS

Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:44:54AM +0200, Philipp wrote: What was the topic again? We're working on it. it as in different jack implementations in Debian. Historically, we only had jackd1, but I guess we'll at least see jackd1 and jackd2, perhaps also tschack, and the user will be able to

Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Adrian Knoth wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:44:54AM +0200, Philipp wrote: What was the topic again? We're working on it. it as in different jack implementations in Debian. Historically, we only had jackd1, but I guess we'll at least see jackd1 and jackd2, perhaps also

Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Arnold Krille
On Sunday 18 April 2010 00:14:31 Philipp wrote: Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-04-17 23:15:11 +0200: ... That way your favourite music player can have an output plugin that looks for jack and if that is not running, looks for pulse and finally choose direct alsa for

Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Ray Rashif
On 19 April 2010 01:42, Arnold Krille arn...@arnoldarts.de wrote: Hm, which distribution apart from gentoo do you know that has jacks libs and server/apps in one package? http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/jack/files/ We do not believe in the extra work of splitting package files for

[LAD] OT: distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ray Rashif wrote: On 19 April 2010 01:42, Arnold Krille arn...@arnoldarts.de wrote: Hm, which distribution apart from gentoo do you know that has jacks libs and server/apps in one package? http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/jack/files/ We do not believe in the extra work

Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread rosea.grammostola
On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 08:31 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 5:16 AM, rosea.grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty odd that you guys didn't discuss this clearly with each other. It seems that people have an opinion about something, but only share this

Re: [LAD] OT: distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Ray Rashif
On 19 April 2010 02:57, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: An seemingly outdated information said pacman -S jack will make JACK2 available too. A quick web search doesn't say if there are JACK1 and 2 available for Arch. Is this the distro that already makes the choice available?

Re: [LAD] OT: distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ray Rashif wrote: On 19 April 2010 02:57, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: An seemingly outdated information said pacman -S jack will make JACK2 available too. A quick web search doesn't say if there are JACK1 and 2 available for Arch. Is this the distro that already makes

Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread torbenh
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:21:06PM +0200, rosea.grammostola wrote: On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 08:31 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 5:16 AM, rosea.grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty odd that you guys didn't discuss this clearly with each other. It

Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] distros migrating to JACK2?

2010-04-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 4:21 PM, rosea.grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: This could all be true, but that's not the point I was talking about. JACK2 was planned as successor of JACK1. But at some point that changed, No, Jack2 (then jackdmp) was not planned as a successor of Jack1.