[LAD] io GNU/Linux 2017.03 out :)

Hi all, New images are ready for testing (amd64, i386) ;) io GNU/Linux is a Live DVD/USB based on Debian Sid and focused on multimedia. -> Kernel 4.14 and 4.14-rt1, Jack2+PulseAudio as default sound server (can be easily changed to Jack2+AlsaLoop, Jack2+ZitaBridge, PulseAudio or Alsa) ->

Re: [LAD] Plugin Toolkits (was ~ Forgive me, toss your Macintosh)

I think it's also worth mentioning that although MacOS and Windows generally have an easier time with this stuff, they too sometimes can suffer from plugin/host toolkit/runtime wierdness. There's a case under discussion right now on the coreaudio mailing list involving a very smart, very

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On 10.12.2017 22:19, Filipe Coelho wrote: > On 10.12.2017 22:14, Markus Seeber wrote: >> Hm, I did not think about that hard enough, honestly. Then again this makes >> me want to explore the idea of a plugin GUIs separately from the DAW process. >> This is not a new idea, but has it already been

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On 10.12.2017 22:14, Markus Seeber wrote: Hm, I did not think about that hard enough, honestly. Then again this makes me want to explore the idea of a plugin GUIs separately from the DAW process. This is not a new idea, but has it already been implemented and explored in detail, apart from the

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On 12/10/2017 09:37 PM, Paul Davis wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Markus Seeber < > markus.see...@spectralbird.de> wrote: > >> ​You can still statically link for example with FLTK >> > ​You still need to ensure that the host can integrate with FLTK (or any > other toolkit's) event loop.

Re: [LAD] https for linuxaudio.org

On 2017-12-10 21:57:06 (+0100), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > But please, developers consider to sign your tarballs. +1 -- https://sleepmap.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org

Re: [LAD] https for linuxaudio.org

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:52:30 +0100, David Runge wrote: >You rule! >Thanks +1 But please, developers consider to sign your tarballs. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org

Re: [LAD] https for linuxaudio.org

You rule! Thanks -- https://sleepmap.de ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev

Re: [LAD] https for linuxaudio.org

On 11/26/2017 04:10 PM, David Runge wrote: > That is good news and I'm looking forward to it! > > Note, that letsencrypt certificates can easily be setup using SAN > (Subject Alternative Name), which gets around the need for a wildcard > certificate (unless you literally have hundreds of

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Markus Seeber < markus.see...@spectralbird.de> wrote: > ​You can still statically link for example with FLTK > ​You still need to ensure that the host can integrate with FLTK (or any other toolkit's) event loop. Without some explicit awareness, events etc. will

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On 12/10/2017 08:43 PM, Gordonjcp wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 08:37:08PM +0100, Markus Seeber wrote: >> On 12/10/2017 03:31 PM, Paul Davis wrote: >>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 5:51 AM, Markus Seeber < >>> markus.see...@spectralbird.de> wrote: >>> ​ Just employ static linking when

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 08:37:08PM +0100, Markus Seeber wrote: > On 12/10/2017 03:31 PM, Paul Davis wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 5:51 AM, Markus Seeber < > > markus.see...@spectralbird.de> wrote: > > > >> ​ > >> Just employ static linking when sensible. > > > > ​unortunately, several large

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On 12/10/2017 03:31 PM, Paul Davis wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 5:51 AM, Markus Seeber < > markus.see...@spectralbird.de> wrote: > >> ​ >> Just employ static linking when sensible. > > ​unortunately, several large toolkits of various types make this impossible > because they themselves use

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017, Markus Seeber wrote: Bottom line: It turned out the Windows way of shipping all or most libs with the program is a really good way to compatibility. Just employ static linking when sensible. There are less ways a linker can screw that up Often policy gets in the way of

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 5:51 AM, Markus Seeber < markus.see...@spectralbird.de> wrote: > ​ > Just employ static linking when sensible. ​unortunately, several large toolkits of various types make this impossible because they themselves use dynamic (runtime-driven) loading of shared objects. GTK

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On 12/10/2017 12:14 PM, Filipe Coelho wrote: > On 10.12.2017 11:51, Markus Seeber wrote: >> On 12/09/2017 02:32 PM, nils wrote: >>> Bottom line: It turned out the Windows way of shipping all or most >>> libs with the program is a really good way to compatibility. >> Just employ static linking when

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On 10.12.2017 11:51, Markus Seeber wrote: On 12/09/2017 02:32 PM, nils wrote: Bottom line: It turned out the Windows way of shipping all or most libs with the program is a really good way to compatibility. Just employ static linking when sensible. ... The current way of bundling shared

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

> > From: nils > > Yes, that is possible and I wholeheartly lobby for that because library > bugs and mismatches are common and could be avoided. > > Ardour does it and I do it in my own programs as well, or at least will > if properly released. If you can copy a library into your

Re: [LAD] Carla (was... whatever)

On 10.12.2017 11:47, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:33:25AM +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: You're missing the fact that all of these are optional dependencies. Nothing in carla is a real build-time dependency. So that means that the following (from The AUR PKGBUILD file) is

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

On 12/09/2017 02:32 PM, nils wrote: > Yes, that is possible and I wholeheartly lobby for that because library > bugs and mismatches are common and could be avoided. > > Ardour does it and I do it in my own programs as well, or at least will > if properly released. If you can copy a library into

Re: [LAD] Carla (was... whatever)

On 10.12.2017 11:41, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 11:25:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Off-topic: On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:51:43 +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: In case you did not notice from me and Rui, we Portuguese people like to support as much stuff as possible :) Not really. For

Re: [LAD] Carla (was... whatever)

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:33:25AM +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: > You're missing the fact that all of these are optional dependencies. > Nothing in carla is a real build-time dependency. So that means that the following (from The AUR PKGBUILD file) is mostly wrong: depends=('file' 'fftw'

Re: [LAD] Carla (was... whatever)

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 11:25:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >Off-topic: > >On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:51:43 +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: >>In case you did not notice from me and Rui, we Portuguese people like >>to support as much stuff as possible :) > >Not really. For example, record a few audio tracks

Re: [LAD] Carla (was... whatever)

Off-topic: On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:51:43 +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: >In case you did not notice from me and Rui, we Portuguese people like >to support as much stuff as possible :) Not really. For example, record a few audio tracks with Qtractor using a low frame size, while you mute several

Re: [LAD] Carla (was... whatever)

On 10.12.2017 10:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:33:25 +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: On 10.12.2017 00:21, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 18:00:32 +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: But when installing jalv or qtractor for archlinux, because they depend on suil, expect it to pull

Re: [LAD] Carla (was... whatever)

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:33:25 +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: >On 10.12.2017 00:21, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 18:00:32 +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: >>> But when installing jalv or qtractor for archlinux, because they >>> depend on suil, expect it to pull gtk2, gtk3, qt4 and qt5. >>

Re: [LAD] Carla (was... whatever)

On 10.12.2017 00:21, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 18:00:32 +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: But when installing jalv or qtractor for archlinux, because they depend on suil, expect it to pull gtk2, gtk3, qt4 and qt5. suil comes with a dedicated version itself and as far as I notice doesn't