Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-07-22 Thread Len Ovens
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, Thomas Vecchione wrote: Related to this topic, I would recommend reading through this... https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/theatre-sound-list/WbysqMHs6iw AVB isn't dead no, but it certainly isn't close to dominant at this point, at least on my side of the pond.  It

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-07-21 Thread Thomas Vecchione
Related to this topic, I would recommend reading through this... https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/theatre-sound-list/WbysqMHs6iw AVB isn't dead no, but it certainly isn't close to dominant at this point, at least on my side of the pond. It may be a different situation on the other side,

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-15 Thread Len Ovens
Looking at the MOTU AVB endpoints, I see MIDI ports on them. None of the AVB docs I have read (yet) show MIDI transport. Is this then just RTP-MIDI on the same network? It almost seems that the midi is visible to the USB part only. Motu recommends connecting one of the AVB boxes to the

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-13 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 11:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote: On Sun, 7 Jun 2015, Jesse Cobra wrote: Just a few notes, not sure if this is of any use: Motu and Presonus are now shipping some semi-affordable AVB audio devices and switches. The Motu switch is $295.

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-13 Thread Len Ovens
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, Will Godfrey wrote: I don't suppose anyone has written an AVB - jack module? https://github.com/audioscience/Open-AVB Does in fact list both a jackd listener and talker in their examples. The talker looks like it is more complete and would be able to run waiting for a

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-13 Thread Jesse Cobra
Here is an even cheaper switch: http://www.dsp4you.com/products/avb-oem-series/avb-sw I think I have one of these around here as well from an old project. I will send it along with the xmos endpoints! I should have a few Marvell firefox and apx 2 AVB eval kits kicking around I will look for...

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-13 Thread Len Ovens
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, Jesse Cobra wrote: Also, the AVB community is starting to call it TSN (time sensitive networks)... ;) As happens, searching for TSN gives many hits for a Sports network... I was looking for what the T was for, but it apparently is just The. AVB is much more searchable, I

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-09 Thread Will Godfrey
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:04:55 +0200 Leonardo Gabrielli l.gabrie...@univpm.it wrote: Hello Reuben, I have been talking to a Intel guy at the last AES convention and he told me they are supporting AVB (maybe he's reading this list as well). Another strong signal regarding AVB not dead. We were

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-09 Thread Jesse Cobra
Again if anyone wants an XMOS AVB sound card http://www.xmos.com/products/reference-designs/avb-lc I have a few I am not using. Also this is under $100, I have at least one of these I am not using. http://www.dsp4you.com/products/avb-oem-series/avb-dg On Jun 9, 2015 8:42 AM, Will Godfrey

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-09 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 08:48:30AM -0700, Jesse Cobra wrote: Again if anyone wants an XMOS AVB sound card http://www.xmos.com/products/reference-designs/avb-lc I have a few I am not using. To those who are interested: that's cool stuff, you can just connect audio via RCA or 3.5mm jack, a

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-09 Thread Will Godfrey
On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:40:04 +0200 Adrian Knoth a...@drcomp.erfurt.thur.de wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 08:48:30AM -0700, Jesse Cobra wrote: Again if anyone wants an XMOS AVB sound card http://www.xmos.com/products/reference-designs/avb-lc I have a few I am not using. To those who

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-09 Thread Len Ovens
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: An Intel I210 Gigabit Ethernet PCI express Card will set you back about $70 on Newegg, it does have the hardware support that AVB needs and a driver in the OpenAVB project. I have a couple and they seem to work just fine. A 24 output AVB Motu

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-08 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On 06/07/2015 07:15 AM, Len Ovens wrote: ... Why is this? Linux is based on lowest common denominator hardware... we call it the PC. The Linux world has gotten much better preformance out of this box than it was designed for. But, in the case of audio, the HW does limit performance at least with

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-08 Thread Jesse Cobra
Sounds awesome Fernando. I have a few of the XMOS AVB endpoints I am not using if anyone wants one. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano na...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote: On 06/07/2015 07:15 AM, Len Ovens wrote: ... Why is this? Linux is based on lowest common denominator

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-08 Thread Leonardo Gabrielli
Hello Reuben, I have been talking to a Intel guy at the last AES convention and he told me they are supporting AVB (maybe he's reading this list as well). Another strong signal regarding AVB not dead. We were specifically talking about audio networking and multimedia. Best -- Leonardo

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-08 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote: I was listening in on a IRC conversation about the differences between ALSA and Core audio and why Core audio does it right. The difference ends up being this HW clock. That is ALSA is build the way it is because the PC

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-07 Thread Jesse Cobra
Just a few notes, not sure if this is of any use: Motu and Presonus are now shipping some semi-affordable AVB audio devices and switches. The Motu switch is $295. All shipping Apple hardware supports AVB, via the BroadCom NIC they are using. You could of course install Linux on said hardware.

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-07 Thread Jesse Cobra
Oh and of course you have the Open-AVB project first started by Intel. Looks like folks are talking about getting it running on a BeagleBone or iMX6 based board: http://sourceforge.net/p/open-avb/mailman/message/33026258/ On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Jesse Cobra jesseco...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-07 Thread Len Ovens
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Reuben Martin wrote: I thought I would post this since there was a big conversation here a while back about AES67 and the slow death of AVB due to lack of support. Well I was talking with a guy from Meyer Sound who told me that AVB has been resurrected from the dead.

[LAD] AVB not so dead after all

2015-06-06 Thread Reuben Martin
I thought I would post this since there was a big conversation here a while back about AES67 and the slow death of AVB due to lack of support. Well I was talking with a guy from Meyer Sound who told me that AVB has been resurrected from the dead. Apparently Cisco and other large network