On 07/11/2011 12:16 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 05:08:32PM +0200, rosea grammostola wrote:
After spending a week using JackSession, I don't think a
quit-without-save option should be a 'showstopper' here Fons. Especially
because JackSession makes working with JACK so
On 07/03/2011 12:27 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 11:02:27PM +0200, rosea grammostola wrote:
Next thing what would be good to have imo is a good software mixer with
JackSession support. Unfortunately non-mixer is not a good candidate
afaik, cause it changes port names. I
On 07/10/2011 10:08 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
After spending a week using JackSession, I don't think a
quit-without-save option should be a 'showstopper' here Fons. Especially
because JackSession makes working with JACK so much easier. Better to
have JackSession without a quit-without-save
2011/7/10 rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On 07/03/2011 12:27 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
As to Jack Session support, I won't even consider it as long
as it doesn't support quit-without-save.
The rationale for not supporting this is IMNSHO completely bogus.
After playing
On 07/10/2011 06:33 PM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
2011/7/10 rosea grammostolarosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On 07/03/2011 12:27 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
As to Jack Session support, I won't even consider it as long
as it doesn't support quit-without-save.
The rationale for not supporting this is
Am Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:08:32 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On 07/03/2011 12:27 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 11:02:27PM +0200, rosea grammostola wrote:
Next thing what would be good to have imo is a good software mixer with
JackSession
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 05:08:32PM +0200, rosea grammostola wrote:
After spending a week using JackSession, I don't think a
quit-without-save option should be a 'showstopper' here Fons. Especially
because JackSession makes working with JACK so much easier. Better to
have JackSession
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:43:53 +0200
rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/10/2011 06:33 PM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
2011/7/10 rosea grammostolarosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On 07/03/2011 12:27 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
As to Jack Session support, I won't even consider it
On 07/04/2011 03:23 AM, Paul Davis wrote:
2011/7/3 Dave Phillipsdlphill...@woh.rr.com:
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
... none of the audio stuff i routinely do everyday would be possible
without jack.
Amen to that.
I disagree with both of you. I think what you really mean is none of
this
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:14 AM, m.wolkst...@gmx.de m.wolkst...@gmx.dewrote:
Am Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:10:49 +0200
Yes sounds good, if i had time i will include a corresponding config
option.
g wolke
Done, checkout hydrogen trunk =rev2248.
To save data into jack-session directory enable the
2011/7/4 Jörn Nettingsmeier netti...@folkwang-hochschule.de
On 07/04/2011 03:23 AM, Paul Davis wrote:
2011/7/3 Dave Phillipsdlphill...@woh.rr.com**:
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
... none of the audio stuff i routinely do everyday would be possible
without jack.
Amen to that.
I
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 01:32:09PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Emanuel Rumpf xb...@web.de wrote:
SaveAndQuit (without Quit only) is not so bad, as it appears
initially. Actually I seem to like the idea of this simplification.
Although one has to get used to it.
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote:
(BTW it would be great if Ardour would provide raw track ouputs)
why not just use a prefader send. set up a track template and then
create all your new tracks with it?
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On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 12:33:18PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote:
(BTW it would be great if Ardour would provide raw track ouputs)
why not just use a prefader send. set up a track template and then
create all your new
Am Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:10:49 +0200
schrieb m.wolkst...@gmx.de m.wolkst...@gmx.de:
Am Sun, 03 Jul 2011 11:10:08 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On 07/03/2011 09:44 AM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
2011/7/2 m.wolkst...@gmx.dem.wolkst...@gmx.de:
but i didn't
2011/7/2 m.wolkst...@gmx.de m.wolkst...@gmx.de:
but i didn't agree to save the application data into the jack-session folder!
You really should make that a user option !
One of the main points of a session is, to keep data *together*.
So everything belonging to one session goes to one
On 07/03/2011 09:44 AM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
2011/7/2 m.wolkst...@gmx.dem.wolkst...@gmx.de:
but i didn't agree to save the application data into the jack-session folder!
You really should make that a user option !
Yep, I do agree with this. It starts to get complex again if all apps
will
On 07/03/2011 12:27 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 11:02:27PM +0200, rosea grammostola wrote:
Next thing what would be good to have imo is a good software mixer with
JackSession support. Unfortunately non-mixer is not a good candidate
afaik, cause it changes port names. I
On 07/03/2011 02:19 AM, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote:
Next thing what would be good to have imo is a good software mixer with
JackSession support. Unfortunately non-mixer is not a good candidate
afaik, cause it changes port names. I don't know if Fons is still busy
with his mixer and if he has
On 07/03/2011 11:58 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
On 07/03/2011 02:19 AM, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote:
Next thing what would be good to have imo is a good software mixer with
JackSession support. Unfortunately non-mixer is not a good candidate
afaik, cause it changes port names. I don't know if
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 11:53:29AM +0200, rosea grammostola wrote:
Fons has been quite busy moving home the last weeks (not far,
south of Parma to north of Parma, but it's the same exercise
independent of distance anyway).
Good luck with that.
Thanks ! I'm at my new place, basic life support
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote:
JSM is one of them, it's a mess
even in its initial form.
its important to point out that this is a criticism that could be
levelled at JACK too.
your analysis was thoughtful and sensible. as it turned out, neither
Am Sun, 03 Jul 2011 11:10:08 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On 07/03/2011 09:44 AM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
2011/7/2 m.wolkst...@gmx.dem.wolkst...@gmx.de:
but i didn't agree to save the application data into the jack-session
folder!
You really should
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Robin Gareus ro...@linuxaudio.org wrote:
Is quit w/o save really needed? IMHO a smarter way would be to
auto-save the session every e.g. 5 mins and add keep those as
revisions in a repository.
if you think about it, this is also quite intrusive on application
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 08:10:09AM -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
the lack of quit-without-save is a decision that i was opposed to, but
accepted precisely because it has the potential to interfere with
developer's internal architecture. most applications these days ask if
you attempt to quit
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Emanuel Rumpf xb...@web.de wrote:
SaveAndQuit (without Quit only) is not so bad, as it appears
initially. Actually I seem to like the idea of this simplification.
Although one has to get used to it.
What I'm really missing is SaveAndClose (without application
2011/7/3 Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com:
i feel that if you spend too long reasoning about this, you will
conclude, as I have, that JACK was actually a mistake (at least in
terms of the basic framework in which to glue together different
things processing data streams). the absence of
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote:
i feel that if you spend too long reasoning about this, you will
conclude, as I have, that JACK was actually a mistake (at least in
terms of the basic framework in which to glue together different
things processing
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 12:32:53PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
sure, which right now is not a separate function at all, but merely a
branch of the finish function. not exactly a huge amount of work to
split it out, but indicative of the complete (and understandable)
design assumption there's no
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote:
Quite unrelated to all of this, I do have a question
about Ardour's 'Save' semantics.
wrong context, but OK ...
There are:
(1) 'Save'
(2) 'Save as'
(3) 'Snapshot'
and
(4) 'Periodic safety backups' (option)
On 3 July 2011 21:14, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote:
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 12:32:53PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
sure, which right now is not a separate function at all, but merely a
branch of the finish function. not exactly a huge amount of work to
split it out, but indicative
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Devin Anderson de...@charityfinders.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Devin Anderson de...@charityfinders.com
wrote:
I'm curious about what you might have done differently if
On 07/03/2011 10:14 PM, Folderol wrote:
So (excusing my ignorance) are we approaching a brick wall or is there a way
out?
i wouldn't know. if it's a brick wall, i'm perfectly happy banging my
head into it day after day, and so are my customers.
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
... none of the audio stuff i routinely do everyday would be possible
without jack.
Amen to that.
Best,
dp
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2011/7/3 Dave Phillips dlphill...@woh.rr.com:
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
... none of the audio stuff i routinely do everyday would be possible
without jack.
Amen to that.
I disagree with both of you. I think what you really mean is none of
this would be possible without some system for
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote:
2011/7/3 Dave Phillips dlphill...@woh.rr.com:
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
... none of the audio stuff i routinely do everyday would be possible
without jack.
Amen to that.
I disagree with both of you. I think what
Am Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:03:05 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
huhu,
i currently finished a simple hydrogen implementation.
callback with:
save session(save the current song file)
save and exit(save and quit hydrogen)
so far so good.
but i didn't agree to save the
On 07/02/2011 10:40 PM, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:03:05 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostolarosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
huhu,
i currently finished a simple hydrogen implementation.
callback with:
save session(save the current song file)
save and exit(save and quit hydrogen)
On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 11:02:27PM +0200, rosea grammostola wrote:
Next thing what would be good to have imo is a good software mixer with
JackSession support. Unfortunately non-mixer is not a good candidate
afaik, cause it changes port names. I don't know if Fons is still busy
with his
Am Sat, 02 Jul 2011 23:02:27 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On 07/02/2011 10:40 PM, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:03:05 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostolarosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
huhu,
i currently finished a simple hydrogen
Linux Audio Developer,
May I make a feature request here for your Linuxaudio application(s)?
Could you please add JackSession support? It makes working with JACK
standalone applications a lot more user friendly. There are some apps
who support it already and they work fine, like Yoshimi,
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:03:05 +0200
rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote:
Linux Audio Developer,
May I make a feature request here for your Linuxaudio application(s)?
Could you please add JackSession support? It makes working with JACK
standalone applications a lot more
On 06/30/2011 11:31 AM, Renato wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:03:05 +0200
rosea grammostolarosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote:
Linux Audio Developer,
May I make a feature request here for your Linuxaudio application(s)?
Could you please add JackSession support? It makes working with JACK
Am Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:43:50 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On 06/30/2011 11:31 AM, Renato wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:03:05 +0200
rosea grammostolarosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote:
Linux Audio Developer,
May I make a feature request here for your
Understanding the dev side and not the user side, that is the world
up-side-down for me ;)
That is quite possible -- the API that a host (session handler) uses
to communicate with clients / plugins / whatever says nothing
about how that host calls those API functions, how it structures
disk
Am Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:22:01 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On 06/30/2011 12:11 PM, rosea grammostola wrote:
On 06/30/2011 12:00 PM, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:43:50 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostolarosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On
On 06/30/2011 01:13 PM, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:22:01 +0200
schrieb rosea grammostolarosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
On 06/30/2011 12:11 PM, rosea grammostola wrote:
On 06/30/2011 12:00 PM, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:43:50 +0200
schrieb rosea
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 11:03 +0200, rosea grammostola wrote:
[...]
Qjackctl is able to work as Session Manager, so is Pyjacksm (and likely
Patchage in the future).
There is very preliminary support in Patchage in SVN, but the format in
which it currently saves sessions is a bit sketchy. The
On 06/30/2011 06:20 PM, David Robillard wrote:
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 11:03 +0200, rosea grammostola wrote:
[...]
Qjackctl is able to work as Session Manager, so is Pyjacksm (and likely
Patchage in the future).
There is very preliminary support in Patchage in SVN, but the format in
which it
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