Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-12 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:09:06PM +0100, Hugo Mills wrote: - Generally speaking, does LZO compression improve or degrade performance ? I'm not able to figure it out clearly. Yes, it improves or degrades performance. :) It'll depend entirely on what you're doing with it. If you're

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-12 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc MERLIN schreef op 12-04-14 15:17: On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:09:06PM +0100, Hugo Mills wrote: - Generally speaking, does LZO compression improve or degrade performance ? I'm not able to figure it out clearly. Yes, it improves or degrades

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 11:11:11 AM Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote: This is because every other filesystem (except ZFS) doesn't use COW semantics. There is an interesting article on LWN at the moment (subscriber only for the next day or two, but if you can afford it I'd suggest considering subscribing)

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 10:02:27 AM Swâmi Petaramesh wrote: However I'm still concerned with chronic BTRFS dreadful performance and still find that BRTFS degrades much over time even with periodic defrag and best practices etc. That's odd, I've been running it on laptops with SSDs since 2009 and

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-08 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi, This is because every other filesystem (except ZFS) doesn't use COW semantics. Nilfs2 also is COW based. Regards, Clemens -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-08 Thread Austin S Hemmelgarn
On 2014-04-08 07:56, Clemens Eisserer wrote: Hi, This is because every other filesystem (except ZFS) doesn't use COW semantics. Nilfs2 also is COW based. Regards, Clemens -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-07 Thread Johannes Hirte
On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:33:10 -0400 Austin S Hemmelgarn ahferro...@gmail.com wrote: On 2014-04-04 04:02, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote: - Is it still recommended to mkfs with a nodesize or leafsize different (bigger) than the default ? I wouldn't like to lose too much disk space anyway (1/2

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-07 Thread Austin S Hemmelgarn
On 2014-04-05 07:10, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote: Le samedi 5 avril 2014 10:12:17 Duncan wrote [excellent performance advice about disabling Akonadi in BTRFS etc]: Thanks Duncan for all this excellent discussion. However I'm still rather puzzled with a filesystem for which advice is if you

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-06 Thread Swâmi Petaramesh
Hi people :-) Le samedi 5 avril 2014 15:13:40 Hugo Mills a écrit : - I'm not aware, particularly, of any major differences between noatime and relatime in performance on btrfs. (But I may be wrong there). It's especially noticeable at first boot in a given day, as relatime will have

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi, [not cc´ing you as you didn´t cc anyone and I think you do not like to be CC ´d, note that usual on kernel related mailing lists this is a convention, so I may miss it at some time. not restoring other cc´s as I am lazy right now] Am Samstag, 5. April 2014, 15:06:26 schrieb Duncan: Garry

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-05 Thread Duncan
Swâmi Petaramesh posted on Sat, 05 Apr 2014 00:35:08 +0200 as excerpted: [Multiple machines, multiple distros, all going slow over time, the common thread being btrfs on all.] All those machines do mainly boring office tasks, email, web surf, word processing, spreadsheets. No databases except

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-05 Thread Swâmi Petaramesh
Le samedi 5 avril 2014 10:12:17 Duncan wrote [excellent performance advice about disabling Akonadi in BTRFS etc]: Thanks Duncan for all this excellent discussion. However I'm still rather puzzled with a filesystem for which advice is if you want tolerable performance, you have to turn off

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-05 Thread Duncan
Swâmi Petaramesh posted on Sat, 05 Apr 2014 13:10:13 +0200 as excerpted: Le samedi 5 avril 2014 10:12:17 Duncan wrote [excellent performance advice about disabling Akonadi in BTRFS etc]: Thanks Duncan for all this excellent discussion. However I'm still rather puzzled with a filesystem

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-05 Thread Hugo Mills
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 01:10:13PM +0200, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote: Le samedi 5 avril 2014 10:12:17 Duncan wrote [excellent performance advice about disabling Akonadi in BTRFS etc]: Thanks Duncan for all this excellent discussion. However I'm still rather puzzled with a filesystem for which

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-05 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 4-4-14 10:02:27 Swâmi Petaramesh wrote: However I'm still concerned with chronic BTRFS dreadful performance and still find that BRTFS degrades much over time even with periodic defrag and best practices etc. Yeah, I have experienced this, too. I can't say what your experience was, but mine

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-05 Thread Duncan
Garry T. Williams posted on Sat, 05 Apr 2014 10:26:06 -0400 as excerpted: I no longer see the slow degradation over time because I made the following directories recursively nodatacow: .local/share/akonadi ...snip... OK, we now have a second link to akonadi (and browsers) and slowness,

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-04 Thread Austin S Hemmelgarn
On 2014-04-04 04:02, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote: Hi, I'm going to receive a new small laptop with a 500 GB 5400 RPM mechanical ole' rust HD, and I plan ton install BTRFS on it. It will have a kernel 3.13 for now, until 3.14 gets released. However I'm still concerned with chronic BTRFS

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-04 Thread Swâmi Petaramesh
Le vendredi 4 avril 2014 08:33:10 Austin S Hemmelgarn a écrit : However I'm still concerned with chronic BTRFS dreadful performance and still find that BRTFS degrades much over time even with periodic defrag and best practices etc. I keep hearing this from people, but i personally don't

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-04 Thread Hugo Mills
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 10:02:27AM +0200, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote: Hi, I'm going to receive a new small laptop with a 500 GB 5400 RPM mechanical ole' rust HD, and I plan ton install BTRFS on it. It will have a kernel 3.13 for now, until 3.14 gets released. However I'm still concerned

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-04 Thread Austin S Hemmelgarn
On 2014-04-04 08:48, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote: Le vendredi 4 avril 2014 08:33:10 Austin S Hemmelgarn a écrit : However I'm still concerned with chronic BTRFS dreadful performance and still find that BRTFS degrades much over time even with periodic defrag and best practices etc. I keep hearing

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-04 Thread Duncan
Austin S Hemmelgarn posted on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:33:10 -0400 as excerpted: On 2014-04-04 04:02, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote: Hi, I'm going to receive a new small laptop with a 500 GB 5400 RPM mechanical ole' rust HD, and I plan ton install BTRFS on it. Reminds me of my query to the list, some

Re: BTRFS setup advice for laptop performance ?

2014-04-04 Thread Swâmi Petaramesh
Le vendredi 4 avril 2014 16:09:06 Hugo Mills a écrit : We don't have lots of reports of massive slowdowns after a long period of use, so whatever you're doing, there seems to be something unusual involved. It's almost certainly not your fault, but there would appear to be something in