Hello,
I need to compile expect source. (The main goal here is to hide the source from the customer not improve performance or anything of the sort)
This is vital because after having a system based on expect (which can be read natively) mysql (which support generate ddl) and php we figured we
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:24:23AM -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
Hello,
I need to compile expect source. (The main goal here is to hide the source
from the customer not improve performance or anything of the sort)
This is vital because after having a system based on expect (which can be
On Wednesday 29 June 2005 10:24, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
The main goal here is to hide the source from the customer not improve
performance or anything of the sort
1. Binarization does not give you any protection against an attacker
only the self-illusion you are protected at the price of
Well the cross compile went suprisely smooth.
I downloaded the uclibc cross compiler and had no problems whatsoever.
I then placed the noip binary on the /var (which is writable) and was
very proud to be able to runit off my router with the dilema if to
actually integrate it into the router's
Hi Lior,
Installing noip service on the router is not wise. You don't have much
persistent storage there, and not many tools (perl as i recall is not
avail. there).
I have this router, and I tried (unsuccessfully) to enable SNMP on it to achieve this data.
Instead, I wrote a small script in perl
A simpler solution to that (after writing a similiar script) is running -
html2text http://checkip.dyndns.org | grep Current | cut -d : -f2
When you access one of the checkmyip sites it get's the router's
external ip and that way no sshing is needed.
Lior.
On 6/29/05, Noam Meltzer [EMAIL
On 25/06/05 22:26, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
encrypting the information we rsync
Not just over the wire, according by your webpage, but even backup
server can't decrypt it. Excellent.
But how can you do that with a secure (hence chained) encryption mode
while maintaining the communication
On 29/06/05 12:37, Eran Tromer wrote:
secure (hence chained) encryption mode
Or more generally, a mode with an IV that changes between encryptions.
Eran
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I use redhat and also cygwin and AIX but i don't understand or maybe i wasn't
clear enough
I have expect program (xxx.exp) and expect and all the tools.
the problem is that since the
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 12:31 +0300, Lior Kesos wrote:
A simpler solution to that (after writing a similiar script) is running -
html2text http://checkip.dyndns.org | grep Current | cut -d : -f2
When you access one of the checkmyip sites it get's the router's
external ip and that way no sshing
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Dear Oron,
While I do appriciate the buisness advice, I prefer to receive buisness advice
from paid consultants who know what I am doing. Giving me a advice without
knowing what i am
Eran Tromer wrote:
On 25/06/05 22:26, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
encrypting the information we rsync
Not just over the wire, according by your webpage, but even backup
server can't decrypt it. Excellent.
Otherwise we gain nothing.
But how can you do that with a secure (hence
Nzer Zaidenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I need to know if there is a way to compile expect source or if it is
impossible, do you know of any compilable alternative?
I don't know of a way to compile expect sources (look at tcl docs?),
but how big an effort will it be to rewrite the code in C
The problem with both methods is they are being a little slow.
I used the latter and i got many false-negatives (can't obtain IP errors).
So i prefered to keep the IP checking inside my network.
NoamOn 6/29/05, shimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 12:31 +0300, Lior Kesos wrote: A
Ahoy,
On 29/06/05 13:50, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Not just over the wire, according by your webpage, but even backup
server can't decrypt it. Excellent.
Otherwise we gain nothing.
You'd gain protection from a 3rd-party adversary listening in on the
traffic (if you didn't a secure channel like
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:26:37 +0300, Lior Kesos wrote:
[snip]
But my question is do I have to install the noip software on the
router or is there a more standard and elegent way.
You can use one of the several sites that return your IP as they see
it (after NAT or proxy). Among them are:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote about Re: compiling expect sources
or easy to use c++ engine?:
the problem is that since the xxx.exp is script (readable to all) all the
code is provided to the customer.
we don't want that so i want to either rewrite it with C++ engine (similar to
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libexpect was exactly what I needed. thank you.
Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Nzer Zaidenberg writes:
I need to know if there is a way to compile expect source or if it is
there are tcl obfuscation tools - out there - and there are tcl
compilers and installers - just google for them the tcl fanatics already
thought of that :-)
Nadav Har'El wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote about Re: compiling expect sources or
easy to use c++ engine?:
the
On Wednesday 29 June 2005 13:19, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
While I do appriciate the buisness advice, ...
...we operate in financial segements with banks and mainframes.
As someone who used Rexx on a mainframe circa 1984 (CMS/3 IIRC)
I'll try to ignore your patronizing attitude and boasting about
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005, Oron Peled wrote about Re: Off topic - open vs. closed
sources Re: compiling expect sources or easy to use c++ engine?:
Good. Than the binary/source issue (as a protection measure) is moot.
...
Not like it? On the contrary, you describe an industry that use mostly
custom
On Wednesday, 29 בJune 2005 18:44, Nadav Har'El wrote:
In this situation, if his software was open source - even in the
sense that the source was available to the customer - the customer
could have hired someone to improve the software instead of buying a
new version - and that scares a
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 18:44 +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005, Oron Peled wrote about Re: Off topic - open vs. closed
sources Re: compiling expect sources or easy to use c++ engine?:
Good. Than the binary/source issue (as a protection measure) is moot.
...
Not like it? On the
Eran Tromer wrote:
You'd gain protection from a 3rd-party adversary listening in on the
traffic (if you didn't a secure channel like SSH in the first place).
But it would be simpler to just use SSH, if that were the problem.
not only inconvenient, but won't solve your fundamental problem.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Lior Kesos wrote:
Well the cross compile went suprisely smooth.
I downloaded the uclibc cross compiler and had no problems whatsoever.
I then placed the noip binary on the /var (which is writable) and was
very proud to be able to runit off my router with the dilema if to
Hi,
I have a power failure several days ago. Since then, my root partition have
problem with cleaning the inods.
Regardless of fsck attempts, that keep reporting that everything is ok (next
mount will clean the lost inods), but
I'm unable to compile things, many programs stopped responding or
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Oron Peled wrote:
Now does your company fit the bill?
There are a lot of people who develop based on free software and then
try to 'lock' the product. You cannot do that. The only option is to
make it complex enough that anybody wanting to modify or develop it will
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Lior Kesos wrote:
A simpler solution to that (after writing a similiar script) is running -
html2text http://checkip.dyndns.org | grep Current | cut -d : -f2
When you access one of the checkmyip sites it get's the router's
external ip and that way no sshing is needed.
Boot your PC from a rescue CD.
Back up all your data files to another disk (or CD).
Run fsck on your original root partition.
Then try to recover from a corrupted Debian installation.
Since I never had to try this so far (knock wood three times), I'd look
for an HOWTO about this subject, check
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thanks for the support ;-) though it seems like i started a troll.
Yes I mennt that if you give the source you cannot charge when they introduce a
new server.
they can also do their
Hi,
On 29/06/05 20:43, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Ok, so maybe it will. Not as elegantly as storing a single ~60 byte
state per file, though.
True (and my original objection), but more efficient in communication --
the overhead per delta is just due to AES block alignment.
Specifically,
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
the problem is that since the xxx.exp is script (readable to all) all the code
is provided to the customer.
we don't want that so i want to either rewrite it with C++ engine (similar to
expect) or
compile xxx.exp to xxx.a.out (make the source
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 10:37:11PM +0300, Peter wrote:
What tool did you use to place the compiled binary in the router. Mine
is locked, I cannot upload into it through ssh or anything else. I can
write a shell script to tunnel base64 data if needed ;-). It is also
modified somehow. The
On Wednesday 29 June 2005 19:17, Omer Zak wrote:
This looks to me like Oron is not recognizing the full value of his
services.
Bzzzt, Omer you mixed me up withNzer Zaidenberg to whom me (and
Nadav) replied in this thread.
Other than that, what you wrote seem very valid to me.
Bye,
--
On Wednesday 29 June 2005 18:44, Nadav Har'El wrote:
... if customers are allowed to pay only for the features and fixes
they really need. Instead, you want to sell new versions of the
entire software, for a lot of money.
True. FOSS allows customers to pay for what they really need instead
of
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 23:34 +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
On Wednesday 29 June 2005 19:17, Omer Zak wrote:
This looks to me like Oron is not recognizing the full value of his
services.
Bzzzt, Omer you mixed me up with Nzer Zaidenberg to whom me (and
Nadav) replied in this thread.
I stand
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 13:14 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
thanks for the support ;-) though it seems like i started a troll.
Now it does feel to me like a troll.
However, I have some left-over food for you trolls, welcome to it.
Yes I mennt that if you give the source you cannot charge when
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Lior Kesos wrote:
I put the noip binary on a web server on my host and then ran wget
from the router while I was on /var that seems to be writeable.
Hmm, I missed wget ;-) Does your router have dproxy running, and if so,
does it work (you should be able to point your
The thing about linux/FOSS is that (as the perl moto says) There like
a gazillion ways to do anything.
In this case it was to update my ip at noip2 and I went to alot of
redundent work and have like 4 different ways of doing that including
a python agent I started writing.
So I didn't even find
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