Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread David Randelman
Hi Alex, see inline: Alex Alexander wrote: Hey David, I understand all that, I am willing to make sacrifices... Never heard of MRQ, I know IMQ is a famous shaping protocol but it needs kernel patching and right now I don't feel like compiling a kernel. Still an option though. First, my ba

Writely and Hebrew news

2006-01-23 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi People, Since this AJAX buzzword had started, companies had jumped and started writing some "web apps" that uses those technologies to create some really nice stuff.. One of those famous applications is called "Writely" and it's a web based word-processor. It's in beta stage now, although it s

O'Reilly opens a window to draft versions of its new books

2006-01-23 Thread Omer Zak
http://www.oreilly.com/roughcuts/faq.csp - O'Reilly Rough Cuts -- Eli Marmor's Law: netiquette forbids people from replying "I agree with you" to messages in mailing lists, skewing discussions in favor of the troublemaker type of dissenters. My own blog is at http://tddpirate.livejournal.com/ M

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Alex Alexander
Something must be seriously ed up with my linux box.I DL'ed wondershaper. Set it up for DL=350 (384), UL=96 (128) on eth1 (dsl). Values in parentheses are adsl true bandwidth.Pinged www.forthnet.gr (my provider)...PING www.forthnet.gr (193.92.150.50) 56(84) bytes of data.64 bytes from www.for

Re: cron problem

2006-01-23 Thread Ehud Karni
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:36:00 +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: > > In cron.hourly there are 5 jobs. None of them are **heavy**, but cron seems to > finish only after 50 minutes. > > cron.hourly runs at 1 minute past the hour. Here's the relevant line > from /etc/crontab: > > [snip] > > At 1 mnute past t

cron problem

2006-01-23 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Hi again I did a clean install of Mandriva2006 on my machine and although, on the whole, it went well, I have had a few minor problems. Although I solved most of them, there are still a few that I can't seem to solve. Here is one such problem: In cron.hourly there are 5 jobs. None of them are

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Baruch Even wrote: >The best bet would be to use RED with ECN for TCP, this way you send the >correct messages to the TCP layer without dropping downloaded packets. > > ECN uses two TCP flags that were considered "reserved" for decades (literally). Last I heared (which was some while ago, I admi

Re: strange nfs behaviour

2006-01-23 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Monday 23 January 2006 18:44, Leonid Podolny wrote: > The question is if the local /boot and /home filesystems at > shoshana.solomon are actually located on different partitions. There was > some issue that the export works only on the same partitions. I mean, if > it is the case, you will have

Re: strange nfs behaviour

2006-01-23 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Monday 23 January 2006 18:50, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 06:06:58PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: > > Any clues would be appreciated > > Re /home, /boot - maybe they are different filesystems? If so, you > should know the kernel nfs server (which is almost certainly what

Re: strange nfs behaviour

2006-01-23 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 06:06:58PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: > Any clues would be appreciated Re /home, /boot - maybe they are different filesystems? If so, you should know the kernel nfs server (which is almost certainly what you use) does not cross FS bounderies. Export them explicitely. Re

strange nfs behaviour

2006-01-23 Thread Shlomo Solomon
I've never used nfs before since aside from my computer, all the other machines on my network were Win98 so I used Samba. I convinced my wife to try Mandriva2006 and she's quite happy with it. So now I wanted to use nfs to share files. I set up nfs in both directions (amazingly easy to do - no

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Baruch Even
Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Baruch Even wrote: > > >>The best bet would be to use RED with ECN for TCP, this way you send the >>correct messages to the TCP layer without dropping downloaded packets. >> >> > > ECN uses two TCP flags that were considered "reserved" for decades > (literally). Last I

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: >On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 04:32:16PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > > >>No, this is plain wrong. TCP employs a very powerful congestion control. >>When it notices that the connection exceeded its allocated bandwidth, it >>will lower the transmission rate, thus elim

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 04:32:16PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > No, this is plain wrong. TCP employs a very powerful congestion control. > When it notices that the connection exceeded its allocated bandwidth, it > will lower the transmission rate, thus eliminating the need to drop > further pac

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 15:37 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 03:12:22PM +0200, David Randelman wrote: > > > From my experience the main problem is believe it or not your download > > speed as well, the ISP creates huge buffers of data being sent to you. > > If you wa

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: >This just causes double transmission of the packets. The effective bandwidth >of the line drops, but the actual queues still stay large. > No, this is plain wrong. TCP employs a very powerful congestion control. When it notices that the connection exceeded its allocat

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 03:12:22PM +0200, David Randelman wrote: > From my experience the main problem is believe it or not your download > speed as well, the ISP creates huge buffers of data being sent to you. > If you want low latency you will have to disable the ISP downlink buffer > or at l

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Alex Alexander
Hey David, I understand all that, I am willing to make sacrifices... Never heard of MRQ, I know IMQ is a famous shaping protocol but it needs kernel patching and right now I don't feel like compiling a kernel. Still an option though. What annoys me is that I've found like 5 different scripts/i

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Baruch Even
David Randelman wrote: > To make a long story short, you will not be able to obtain a fast > download stream AND hope to obtain minimum latency for gaming unless you > use tc to cut your bandwidth by half or more and at the same time it > will help to place the MRQ module. I don't think you really

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 03:12:22PM +0200, David Randelman wrote: > From my experience the main problem is believe it or not your download > speed as well, the ISP creates huge buffers of data being sent to you. > If you want low latency you will have to disable the ISP downlink buffer > or at l

Telux: Presentation about Vim on 8 January 2006

2006-01-23 Thread Shlomi Fish
The Tel Aviv Linux Club (Telux - http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/ ) will hold a presentation of Doron Bleiberg about "CASE (= Computer Aided Software Engineering) Tools and What's Between Them". The presentation will take place on Sunday, 29 January 2006, at 18:30, in room 008 of the Schreiber bui

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread David Randelman
Alex, From my experience the main problem is believe it or not your download speed as well, the ISP creates huge buffers of data being sent to you. If you want low latency you will have to disable the ISP downlink buffer or at least reduce it, normally from my experience a 1.5Mbit line needs t

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Alex Alexander
On Monday 23 January 2006 13:42, you wrote: > Alex Alexander wrote: > > Greetings everyone, > > > > I'll try to keep it short. I have a linux routing machine connecting my > > 384kbps adsl line (eth1) with my local network (eth0). Its running Debian > > unstable, w/ kernel 2.6.15 and the usual serv

Re: HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Baruch Even
Alex Alexander wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > I'll try to keep it short. I have a linux routing machine connecting my > 384kbps adsl line (eth1) with my local network (eth0). Its running Debian > unstable, w/ kernel 2.6.15 and the usual services (proxy, dns, dhcp, etc > etc). > > I am trying

HTB Traffic Control Problems...

2006-01-23 Thread Alex Alexander
Greetings everyone, I'll try to keep it short. I have a linux routing machine connecting my 384kbps adsl line (eth1) with my local network (eth0). Its running Debian unstable, w/ kernel 2.6.15 and the usual services (proxy, dns, dhcp, etc etc). I am trying to shape traffic, both incoming and o