Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-21 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Oleg Goldshmidt, from the post of Wed, 15 Jan: > > "[Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless > computing, protects sensitive data, "deters intellectual property > theft" (read Digital Rights Management (DRM) Inside) and delivers > tamper-resistant, x86 storage

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-16 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt on Thu, Jan 16, 2003: > I kleft a very good job once because there was a working camera at the > office. Yikes. What kind of place is that? (No, don't answer that.) Vadik. -- Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. -- Ford Prefect

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-16 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Thursday 16 January 2003 03:42, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > Men are control freaks - we love to control other people. Power turns us > on. This isn't new - that one of the basic themes of the Lord of the > Ring, for example and that story is 30 years old. The story is about fifty years old :-)

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-16 Thread Jean-Daniel Pauget
the transmeta inner cryptology modules sounds/looks a lot like tcpa and his associated big brother "palladium". those days, fighting DMCA-like laws and tools is important. check this one : http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html and make up your own mind ! maybe the

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-16 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-01-15, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Men are control freaks - we love to control other people. Power turns us > on. This isn't new - that one of the basic themes of the Lord of the > Ring, for example and that story is 30 years old. > Hmm, I'd say the idea is a bit older than even 30 years. I

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In this case, you seem to be sufficiently paranoid to look for > security cameras in your room (don't get me wrong, paranoia is good > if you work with security (and you obviously do)). I kleft a very good job once because there was a working camera at

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 16:50, Vadim Vygonets wrote: > Quoth Mark Veltzer on Wed, Jan 15, 2003: > > As for Linus: I do not consider a person who had the nerve to write an > > operating system from scratch and license it under the GPL a traitor. A hero > > hits much closer to home. > > Come on. Wr

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Mark Veltzer on Wed, Jan 15, 2003: > As for Linus: I do not consider a person who had the nerve to write an > operating system from scratch and license it under the GPL a traitor. A hero > hits much closer to home. Come on. Writing Linux is not a political issue. He may be a good program

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt on Wed, Jan 15, 2003: > Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Come on! Building crypto into the processor and enhancing > > security is a GOOD THING[TM], *despite* the fact that DRM was > > mentioned _by a third party_ in an article about the processor in > > questio

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 13:29, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Actually, the passage I cited presents "deters intellectual property > theft" as a direct quote. Of course security is good, but I would not > want a "trusted," if secure, CPU in my computer, even if made by > Transmeta. Oleg, have you noticed

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt on Wed, Jan 15, 2003: > > "[Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless > > computing, protects sensitive data, "deters intellectual property > > theft" (read Digital Rights Management (DRM) Inside) and de

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Veltzer
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 22:05, you wrote: > "[Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless > computing, protects sensitive data, "deters intellectual property > theft" (read Digital Rights Management (DRM) Inside) and delivers > tamper-resistant, x86 storage environmen

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Oleg Kobets
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:05 PM Subject: [OT] is Linus really a traitor? > > "[Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless > computing, protects sensitive data, "deters intellectu

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt on Wed, Jan 15, 2003: > "[Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless > computing, protects sensitive data, "deters intellectual property > theft" (read Digital Rights Management (DRM) Inside) and delivers > tamper-resistant, x86 storage environments.

[OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"[Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless computing, protects sensitive data, "deters intellectual property theft" (read Digital Rights Management (DRM) Inside) and delivers tamper-resistant, x86 storage environments." http://212.100.234.54/content/3/28883.html --