Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Omer Zak wrote: I have the following idea for a Linux based firewall, which will hopefully make it safer to connect a LAN to the Internet. Not a bad shot at all, but here are two suggestion for improvements: The first is to disable CD-ROM and HD completely and use the LRP(*1) distribution

RE: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-29 Thread
= -Original Message- From: Alex Shnitman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: ã 29 ðåáîáø 2000 13:44 To: Linux-IL mailing list Subject: Re: A better Linux based firewall installation? Hi, Gilad! On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 12:50:32PM +0200, you wrote the following: The second

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Alex Shnitman wrote: Hi, Gilad! On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 12:50:32PM +0200, you wrote the following: The second is to NOT configure your firewall as a router, but rather as a layer 2 bridge with IP firwalling rules(*2) and not give it an IP at all (bridges don't need to have an IP

Yngvi is a LOUSE! (was: Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?)

2000-11-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Yngvi(*) wrote: Seems you can transparently define your external router IP ( ISP router ) sitting on the other side of your bridge/firewall as default gateway for all the protected machines. The bridge cares to provide you with ARP responce for routers's MAC. Right on the first sentence,

RE: Yngvi is a LOUSE! (was: Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?)

2000-11-29 Thread
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Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-29 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 12:50:32PM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Other methods of configuration could be very well added. How about attaching an GSM phone to the machine and accepting instruction only from SMS messages coming from a certain phone number. That's a rather insecure way, BTW.

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-29 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 12:50:32PM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Other methods of configuration could be very well added. How about attaching an GSM phone to the machine and accepting instruction only from SMS messages coming from a certain

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 12:50:32PM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Other methods of configuration could be very well added. How about attaching an GSM phone to the machine and accepting instruction only from SMS messages coming from a certain phone number.

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-29 Thread Aviram Jenik
Any attacker which is after your stuff and is able to penetrate a GSM exchange and send an unauthrized message without anyone noticing (remember that banks rely on the number as a ID good enough to identify you and divolge your account details on SMS) Hey... Gilad, I expected better from

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Aviram Jenik wrote: Any attacker which is after your stuff and is able to penetrate a GSM exchange and send an unauthrized message without anyone noticing (remember that banks rely on the number as a ID good enough to identify you and divolge your account details on SMS) Hey... Gilad,

A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-28 Thread Omer Zak
I have the following idea for a Linux based firewall, which will hopefully make it safer to connect a LAN to the Internet. 1. The firewall will be a dedicated machine. 2. Its root filesystem and all software will be burned in a CD-ROM. The other filesystems (floppy and hard disk) will be

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-28 Thread Ariel Biener
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Omer Zak wrote: 3. It will boot from a floppy disk (write-protected, of course) - as the PC on which I want to implement the idea is older and its BIOS does not know to boot directly from CD-ROM. Here you sat write protected. 4. Any files, which may have to be

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-28 Thread Aviram Jenik
I have the following idea for a Linux based firewall, which will hopefully make it safer to connect a LAN to the Internet. The idea is quite nice (not new, though :-). The question - did anyone already do something similar? Yes, I can say that I did (sort of). I can't really give

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-28 Thread Ariel Biener
To achieve a perfectly secured system, follow the below algorithm: 1). Unplug computer from wall outlet. 2). Melt computer into a fish shaped piece of metal. 3). Paint blue. 4). Throw in the ocean. ve ha mevin iavin. --Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP(6.5.8) public key

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-28 Thread Guy Cohen
Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The advantage is that even if the root is compromised, the cracker's ability to inflict actual damage will be limited. I may be missing something here, but once an attacker have root access to your firewall, what prevents her from modifying routing tables

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-28 Thread Omer Zak
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Ariel Biener wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Omer Zak wrote: 3. It will boot from a floppy disk (write-protected, of course) - as the PC on which I want to implement the idea is older and its BIOS does not know to boot directly from CD-ROM. Here you sat write

Re: A better Linux based firewall installation?

2000-11-28 Thread Ariel Biener
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Omer Zak wrote: Omer dear, rebooting a firewall means stopping the service to your customer. Hardly the way to go. I can't imagine that every added rule to the firewall would require such an ackward procedure. Not to mention how reliable floppy diskettes are. --Ariel