Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-25 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
What I meant is that cisco has the the technology for the next 10 years. because the Nasdaq fashion all the company invested huge amount of money in research and the result was they current technology is (speed) years ahead. So now when money don't flow as before they cut with research and

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-24 Thread Ely Levy
No one talked about the v.90 that complitly diffrent issue. a lot related to old phone lines. btw I bet this artical isn't that new. Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Uri Bruck wrote: | | | Just to add something here. I've been hearing the

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-24 Thread Uri Bruck
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Ely Levy wrote: No one talked about the v.90 that complitly diffrent issue. a lot related to old phone lines. btw I bet this artical isn't that new. It isn't new, I wrote that in my original mail. I know that v.90 is not ADSL, my point was, as I wrote in my original

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-24 Thread Uri Bruck
http://www.zdnet.com/zdhelp/stories/main/0,5594,2570300-1,00.html On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Uri Bruck wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Ely Levy wrote: No one talked about the v.90 that complitly diffrent issue. a lot related to old phone lines. btw I bet this artical isn't that new. It

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-23 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Its not that more Optic Cables have been put between Israel to USA but the Routers can control more information now then ever. So expect prices to go down as general approach this day is to lower the routers prices ( at last :) for what speed available by cisco and other companies check this

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-23 Thread Uri Bruck
Just to add something here. I've been hearing the story of "only in Israel we get such low speed where the rest of the world has great high speed internet" for years now. First it was with the 28s, then 33, then 56s So I think this quote from Jim Seymour (PC magazine), even though it was

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-23 Thread guy keren
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Its not that more Optic Cables have been put between Israel to USA but the Routers can control more information now then ever. except that we're takling about the backbone routers, not the end-link routers that smaller ISPs buy. So expect prices

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-22 Thread Ely Levy
Yea, reading the economical section of ha`aretz make you an expert in analizing the profits of isps. did it say anything about why they losing money? was it the stracture?bad conditions?israelis go to wrong ways? and ha`aretz says that aol is the only profitable ISP? personaly I know few more

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-22 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
As a small ISP i can tell you that there is no money in PPP because it is very hard to reach critical mass. And for the big ones, they give so many free/ half price accounts that they loose money at the total sum. And don't forget that israel is different then Europe or USA in the price of the

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-22 Thread Ely Levy
You actually sort of proved my point, it's not a problem in ISP but in how israel treat them. With how bezeq leech small isps and make them pay tons of money for tashtiot. and how the israel govermenet doesn't do anything about it. the reason 012 gives such low prices it cause they have thier

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-22 Thread guy keren
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Ely Levy wrote: You actually sort of proved my point, it's not a problem in ISP but in how israel treat them. With how bezeq leech small isps and make them pay tons of money for tashtiot. and how the israel govermenet doesn't do anything about it. my dear miss-informed

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-21 Thread Hetz Ben Hemo
Hi, There are some serious TCP/IP problems with Windows ME if I'm not mistaken... As for getting 20k per seconds -- your best test would be to connect as a guest for a short while to various ISP's and test them... You should remember one thing - most of the ISP's have added ADSL support,

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-21 Thread guy keren
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Hetz Ben Hemo wrote: You should remember one thing- most of the ISP's have added ADSL support, but, as a typical Israeli behaviour - no one that I know has been expanded substantially their bandwidth, so be prepared for some REAL low bandwidth on all ISP's soon (as more

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-21 Thread Ely Levy
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: | On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 06:24:16PM +0200, Ely Levy wrote: | since when being an ISP is unprofitable buisness??? | why can ISPs all over the world allow high speeds and israeli ones are | suddenly not profitable?maybe we should start a

ISP speed (was: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x)

2001-03-21 Thread Aviram Jenik
Couldn't resist the temptation; | As to ISPs all over the world, where, except for the US (kindom of | backbones) do you get high speeds? Almost all west europe including norway finland and so most big cities in australlia. and so on. In Singapore (a country the size of Israel and

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-21 Thread guy keren
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Ely Levy wrote: since when being an ISP is unprofitable buisness??? practically since the first ISPs were started.. why can ISPs all over the world allow high speeds and israeli ones are suddenly not profitable?maybe we should start a charity for the poor guys even in

Re: Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-21 Thread guy keren
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Ely Levy wrote: don't forget this service is giving all over the world if it was that expensive and not worth it it wouldn't catch so fast don't make us laugh. this is the internet gold rush. don't you see people spending money on startup copanies all over the world, and

Adsl - Linux vs. Win9x

2001-03-20 Thread benadoy
Hey list! I'm currently on an ADSL line connected with bezeq int. I run a linux and a windows computer at home. is there any prooved difference concerning speed between Linux and win9x with ADSL? I'm really not satisfied with the speeds i get now on windows and adsl (sites abroad give me 20k/sec