Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-19 Thread Eli Marmor
Henry Ficher wrote: All this is very interesting, but I got stuck on the first word: What on earth does IANAL stand for? I hope is not as lurid as it sounds. ;-)~ I Am Not A Lawyer. Fortunately, it is a lawyer and not a translator. Imagine that somebody asked what is "IANAT", and everybody

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-19 Thread Gavrie Philipson
- Original Message - From: Henry Ficher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:29 PM Subject: Re: Consider banning KDE? All this is very interesting, but I got stuck on the first word: What on earth does IANAL stand for? I hope is not as lurid

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-18 Thread Gaal Yahas
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 11:45:56PM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: Gnome are also a long way from a friendly GUI (I'm using the latest from Helix), but it's not as restrictive. can't explain it in words, but Gnome is more intuitive and flowing for me. Yalla yalla. Go tvtwm! -- believing is

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-18 Thread Feigin Micha
Recently I switched to FreeBSD and decided to give GNOME a try. Built all gtk/gnome components from sources (using the excellent BSD ports system) - latest stable versions. Took me two days to realize GNOME is not nearly as stable as KDE1 is. While mostly, it works, various components

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-17 Thread Omer Zak
This is a short range vs. long range conflict. In the short range, KDE is more stable, has more nice software, etc. But in the long range, what will happen to KDE and software based upon it? THE reason for Stallman's GPL is to vest with users of software the power to modify it and tailor it to

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-17 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 01:40:56PM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: feel free to comment, but don't make this into a religious war between KDE and other competitors, this is about license violations and ideologies. Not to argue on which's better today, KDE was the best thing that happened to Linux

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-17 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
NM Took me two days to realize GNOME is not nearly as stable as KDE1 is. NM While mostly, it works, various components (e.g., the help application) NM crash repeatedly and sometimes restarting X seems like the only NM option... Seems you have bugs in your X installation. Never saw GNOME lock X,

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-17 Thread Ira Abramov
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Matan Ziv-Av wrote: and to the more politicly aware linux users I explain my other ideological problems with their cathedral practices and license problems. I guess you also don't use bind (cathedral), sendmail (cathedral), qmail (cathedral). Also, read lkml and

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-17 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
Ira wrote: QT is NOT free software, and as such it does not settle with GPL of KDE as it is distributed today. According to RMS it is free (check www.gnu.org). The requirements are that users are allowed to distribute the code, modify the code, and distribute their modifications. All those

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-17 Thread Ira Abramov
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: (scroll to fourth item) http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/06/13/1642213 You're more then welcome to take a look at the kde-devel archive at: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-develr=1w=2 to see their response. I remembered that I posted an email

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-17 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Oops, I mean that QT 2.0 is open-source, but its not free. You can use it for open source project, but once u start selling, u need to pay to Trolltech. Sorry, Hetz Matan Ziv-Av wrote: Ira wrote: QT is NOT free software, and as such it does not settle with GPL of KDE as it is

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-17 Thread Ira Abramov
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Matan Ziv-Av wrote: Ira wrote: QT is NOT free software, and as such it does not settle with GPL of KDE as it is distributed today. According to RMS it is free (check www.gnu.org). The requirements are that users are allowed to distribute the code, modify the

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-17 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
IANAL, and I would love to get into the guts of the licensing problem. The fact that KDE/Qt is not GPLed does not bother me per se (since I don't develop KDE-related stuff), but if they violate GPL that's a big problem that might lead me to dropping KDE indeed. However, the slashback article

Re: Consider banning KDE?

2000-06-17 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Nimrod! On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 04:08:25PM +0300, you wrote the following: Recently I switched to FreeBSD and decided to give GNOME a try. Built all gtk/gnome components from sources (using the excellent BSD ports system) - latest stable versions. Took me two days to realize GNOME is